Upcoming Balance Patch (Overseer) - Page 13

On August 28 2013 00:40 arie3000 wrote:


Saw this suggestion on r/starcraft too, and really like it! It is a very subtle change, it doesn't really do anything in ZvZ or ZvP, and could help just that little bit, and prevent Terrans from progressing (with their reinforcements) too quickly.

I'd also like to see 3/3 being available at infestation pit level. Now a large part of the game is fought 2/2 vs. 3/3, and that makes the Z army quite weak - it takes very long before you can afford the IP and Hive, and kinda takes forever - Terran only needs to drop an armory for 2/2 and 3/3, whereas Z needs lair for 2/2, the IP and then Hive for 3/3. Terran should be ahead in upgrades anyway, and I don't mind that there's a timing window if the T is good, but it shouldn't be as long as it is now.

As for widow mines and micro, I'd like to see that unborrowed mines get a higher attack priority than marines, so sniping them gets a little easier - that will even up the skill level considerably.

On August 27 2013 21:39 xyzz wrote:

I'll come into this thread once every three months to remind you that Protoss is still by far the least succesful race in the pro scene in HoTS, but hey, by all means, let's all worry about the unbearable situation with Zerg and get that race to win some more tournaments so Terran doesn't get it all.

On August 27 2013 04:21 USvBleakill wrote:
A change that doesnt hurt anybody but it wont fix tvz because the problem is not "late" game its the time were Zerg is trying to get hive and Terran bio fights with 3/3 vs muta/ling. That timing that Bomber used in every game at WCS is a problem.

Kind of surprised that there are neither the MSC or Tanks mentioned. The Upgrades are not the main problem of Mech its that the SiegTank sucks and you have an absolute imobile army that cant even win streight up fight against the right unit composition.

On August 28 2013 01:20 jj33 wrote:



exactly.

typical blizzard, bandaid fixes and never address the core issues.

On August 28 2013 01:25 Plansix wrote:

Translation: They did not buff the thing that I feel is the problem with the game. Behold has I point to other forum posts that agree with me.

On August 28 2013 01:26 jj33 wrote:



nice try. wrong though.

overseer speed buff is not the core of the issue with tvz.

and mech not being viable has nothing to do with upgrades.

nice try though.

On August 28 2013 01:30 Plansix wrote:

Right, the things you think are "core issues", but Blizzard does not agree. Just because you say "core issues" does not make your point of view fact.

On August 28 2013 01:32 jj33 wrote:



and how does your original post bring anything relevant but attack me?

of course it's not a fact, but blizzard is wrong and most people that know what they are talking about would agree.

it doesn't take rocket science to know overseer speed buff and upgrades are not core issues?

you really believe upgrades were a core issue for mech not being relevant?

you're wasting my time haha

On August 28 2013 01:37 Plansix wrote:

You are doing a really good job of describing these core issues you believe are wrong with the game. But I guess just saying "Blizzard is wrong, core issues not addressed" is enough of an argument for some.

On August 28 2013 01:39 jj33 wrote:



perhaps if you asked what I thought was a core issue instead of attacking me, then I would have?

and I'm not here to discuss any balance issues in detail, but frankly it's not like blizzard will do anything correctly.

I just agreed with previous poster, due to his sentiment of him feeling blizz is not addressing core issues.

which he is right.

On August 27 2013 23:26 mazqo wrote:
I don't get why blizzard thinks zerg is weak in lategame. To me it seems like the problem is in the midgame and if zerg gets to lategame with good economy they have the advantige then and it's terrans job to try to destroy zerg economy before ultras and 3-3 upgrades for zerg. And I have seen a lot of games from Flash and Innovation who wins TvZ's just because zerg gets sloppy and loses all their mutas to mismicro in midgame and then they get multidropped and they can't defend everywhere and loses eco before spores+spines and ultras.

On August 28 2013 01:43 MorroW wrote:

yeah i have to second this

i think late game is fine and majority of zergs are dying trying to tech up to the proper things to deal with bio widow mine or they try to just squeeze out maximum amounts of units to get an edge that way but die once 3-3 hits for terran

but like ive said before on this forum, i think zergs are doing it wrong by going muta ling bane and are bound to lose if they choose to play like this against quick 3cc without tanks

On August 28 2013 01:43 MorroW wrote:

yeah i have to second this

i think late game is fine and majority of zergs are dying trying to tech up to the proper things to deal with bio widow mine or they try to just squeeze out maximum amounts of units to get an edge that way but die once 3-3 hits for terran

but like ive said before on this forum, i think zergs are doing it wrong by going muta ling bane and are bound to lose if they choose to play like this against quick 3cc without tanks

On August 28 2013 02:09 Scones wrote:
Blizz! Implement this buff and the game will be better:

Hive requires Spire, Infestation pit or Nydus network. Not just infestation pit.

It would open up multiple tier 2 tech paths that all lead to the hive.(I'm not sure why the race wasn't made like this in the first place)

On August 27 2013 23:17 Incognoto wrote:


I'm curious, what did she do? All-in or?