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i hope the ultra buff to pass . i find it interesting . for ppl complaining is too much lol is like 2 shots from marauder or 1 shot from immortal . wont be game breaking seriously is more like 1 second more lasting . with how slow the ultra's hits it probably wont even grant an extra attack .
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actually, i would appreciate it if nobody would play the testmap to send a message to blizzard. to make them really think about relevant problems and maybe listen to the community.
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On August 21 2013 00:14 Terence Chill wrote:
actually, i would appreciate it if nobody would play the testmap to send a message to blizzard. to make them really think about relevant problems and maybe listen to the community.
Listening to the communities demand for macro games is how we got to the WoL stale, boring match ups where everything was nerfed into the ground. Blizzard should avoid that this time around.
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On August 21 2013 00:18 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 00:14 Terence Chill wrote:
actually, i would appreciate it if nobody would play the testmap to send a message to blizzard. to make them really think about relevant problems and maybe listen to the community. Listening to the communities demand for macro games is how we got to the WoL stale, boring match ups where everything was nerfed into the ground. Blizzard should avoid that this time around.
Yeah, 2 rax, 4 gate and bunker rushes were much more fun.
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On August 21 2013 00:18 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 00:14 Terence Chill wrote:
actually, i would appreciate it if nobody would play the testmap to send a message to blizzard. to make them really think about relevant problems and maybe listen to the community. Listening to the communities demand for macro games is how we got to the WoL stale, boring match ups where everything was nerfed into the ground. Blizzard should avoid that this time around.
well, but shooting and completly missing the target cant be the right way, or is it? it would be just a sign to show how we think about their ideas.
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Buff the hydra= Blizzard admits that roaches are useless
So they wont do this kind of thing.
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On August 21 2013 00:19 Jermstuddog wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 00:18 Plansix wrote:On August 21 2013 00:14 Terence Chill wrote:
actually, i would appreciate it if nobody would play the testmap to send a message to blizzard. to make them really think about relevant problems and maybe listen to the community. Listening to the communities demand for macro games is how we got to the WoL stale, boring match ups where everything was nerfed into the ground. Blizzard should avoid that this time around. Yeah, 2 rax, 4 gate and bunker rushes were much more fun.
They at least made the game more interesting that 12 minutes of straight macro into a completely safe 3rd base. Or 6 queens into 80 drones.
There is a middle of the road in there somewhere.
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On August 21 2013 00:19 Terence Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 00:18 Plansix wrote:On August 21 2013 00:14 Terence Chill wrote:
actually, i would appreciate it if nobody would play the testmap to send a message to blizzard. to make them really think about relevant problems and maybe listen to the community. Listening to the communities demand for macro games is how we got to the WoL stale, boring match ups where everything was nerfed into the ground. Blizzard should avoid that this time around. well, but shooting and completly missing the target cant be the right way, or is it? it would be just a sign to show how we think about their ideas.
Just because you don’t agree with the changes doesn’t mean everyone agrees with you. Everyone whines every single time one of these test maps comes out, it doesn’t matter what they have in them. Its not really a good metric as to how good or on point the changes are.
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On August 20 2013 23:49 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 23:42 EFBarbarossa wrote:
I would have welcomed some nydus buff instead like a bit more hitpoints or else - right now, you hardly see and even less succeed yourself with nydus action if it can be killed by probes or 1 lone zealot/marine while being build. This might have helped in the midgame where I see more struggling than in late game. If zerg was allowed to use nydus a bit more like terra uses drops and protoss uses warp prism, which both have been buffed like hell btw :-) it would create a much more versatile midgame. At the end of this WCS season, Blizzard should do a “Quality of Life” patch for all the unloved units in the game and shake up the meta. Banshees, ravens, nydus, carriers, thors, tempest(if they are still not used)ghosts. It’s a great way to keep the game fresh for the next season and keep things changing, while not totally fucking up the pro players who are in WCS.
sounds really cool actually as long as they only make small changes and not to every unit at once lol, I especially think they should buff the nydus
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On August 21 2013 00:32 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 23:49 Plansix wrote:On August 20 2013 23:42 EFBarbarossa wrote:
I would have welcomed some nydus buff instead like a bit more hitpoints or else - right now, you hardly see and even less succeed yourself with nydus action if it can be killed by probes or 1 lone zealot/marine while being build. This might have helped in the midgame where I see more struggling than in late game. If zerg was allowed to use nydus a bit more like terra uses drops and protoss uses warp prism, which both have been buffed like hell btw :-) it would create a much more versatile midgame. At the end of this WCS season, Blizzard should do a “Quality of Life” patch for all the unloved units in the game and shake up the meta. Banshees, ravens, nydus, carriers, thors, tempest(if they are still not used)ghosts. It’s a great way to keep the game fresh for the next season and keep things changing, while not totally fucking up the pro players who are in WCS. sounds really cool actually as long as they only make small changes and not to every unit at once lol, I especially think they should buff the nydus
Dota 2 and League of Legends shack up the meta right after a season or leading up to a big event(dota 2 does it in the months leading up to TI#). Its is a great way to keep the game viable and sort of “break everything” and keeps the game fresh. The last Dota 2 patch buffed almost every underused hero and only did the most minor of nerfs. I think Blizzard should apply the same logic go SC2 after WCS is done for this year and give some love to those units that just don’t fit into the meta right now.
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On August 21 2013 00:42 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 00:32 Die4Ever wrote:On August 20 2013 23:49 Plansix wrote:On August 20 2013 23:42 EFBarbarossa wrote:
I would have welcomed some nydus buff instead like a bit more hitpoints or else - right now, you hardly see and even less succeed yourself with nydus action if it can be killed by probes or 1 lone zealot/marine while being build. This might have helped in the midgame where I see more struggling than in late game. If zerg was allowed to use nydus a bit more like terra uses drops and protoss uses warp prism, which both have been buffed like hell btw :-) it would create a much more versatile midgame. At the end of this WCS season, Blizzard should do a “Quality of Life” patch for all the unloved units in the game and shake up the meta. Banshees, ravens, nydus, carriers, thors, tempest(if they are still not used)ghosts. It’s a great way to keep the game fresh for the next season and keep things changing, while not totally fucking up the pro players who are in WCS. sounds really cool actually as long as they only make small changes and not to every unit at once lol, I especially think they should buff the nydus Dota 2 and League of Legends shack up the meta right after a season or leading up to a big event(dota 2 does it in the months leading up to TI#). Its is a great way to keep the game viable and sort of “break everything” and keeps the game fresh. The last Dota 2 patch buffed almost every underused hero and only did the most minor of nerfs. I think Blizzard should apply the same logic go SC2 after WCS is done for this year and give some love to those units that just don’t fit into the meta right now.
wow, that's actually such a cool idea.
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On August 21 2013 00:42 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 00:32 Die4Ever wrote:On August 20 2013 23:49 Plansix wrote:On August 20 2013 23:42 EFBarbarossa wrote:
I would have welcomed some nydus buff instead like a bit more hitpoints or else - right now, you hardly see and even less succeed yourself with nydus action if it can be killed by probes or 1 lone zealot/marine while being build. This might have helped in the midgame where I see more struggling than in late game. If zerg was allowed to use nydus a bit more like terra uses drops and protoss uses warp prism, which both have been buffed like hell btw :-) it would create a much more versatile midgame. At the end of this WCS season, Blizzard should do a “Quality of Life” patch for all the unloved units in the game and shake up the meta. Banshees, ravens, nydus, carriers, thors, tempest(if they are still not used)ghosts. It’s a great way to keep the game fresh for the next season and keep things changing, while not totally fucking up the pro players who are in WCS. sounds really cool actually as long as they only make small changes and not to every unit at once lol, I especially think they should buff the nydus Dota 2 and League of Legends shack up the meta right after a season or leading up to a big event(dota 2 does it in the months leading up to TI#). Its is a great way to keep the game viable and sort of “break everything” and keeps the game fresh. The last Dota 2 patch buffed almost every underused hero and only did the most minor of nerfs. I think Blizzard should apply the same logic go SC2 after WCS is done for this year and give some love to those units that just don’t fit into the meta right now.
Which means buff carrier. :D
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Blizzard doesn't understand the problem with mech doesn't lie in the transition into air....
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It appears they are going back to their old strategy of throwing ideas at the wall and seeing which ones stick again.
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I agree with most of the other comments that it's the transition to lategame that is so hard for zerg, not the lategame itself. Getting the infestation pit and hive just takes so long that 3/3 is way behind the terran and they have a huge advantage while you get it.
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I strongly doubt the overseer buff will have any impact on the game and the ultra and terran buff are quite ridiculous and not where I feel improvements are needed. I already use ultras in almost all my games because they are so insanely strong.
On August 21 2013 00:14 Terence Chill wrote:
actually, i would appreciate it if nobody would play the testmap to send a message to blizzard. to make them really think about relevant problems and maybe listen to the community.
I disagree. It seems to me that a lot of community suggestions we've had through the lifetime of SC2 has a lot of the times been very very bad and would've made(/did make) the game much worse. Of course sometimes there are obvious things that everyone can agree on that has needed fixes in the past, but more often than not "the community" don't actually agree at all on what would be the right change to make either.
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On August 21 2013 00:47 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 00:42 Plansix wrote:On August 21 2013 00:32 Die4Ever wrote:On August 20 2013 23:49 Plansix wrote:On August 20 2013 23:42 EFBarbarossa wrote:
I would have welcomed some nydus buff instead like a bit more hitpoints or else - right now, you hardly see and even less succeed yourself with nydus action if it can be killed by probes or 1 lone zealot/marine while being build. This might have helped in the midgame where I see more struggling than in late game. If zerg was allowed to use nydus a bit more like terra uses drops and protoss uses warp prism, which both have been buffed like hell btw :-) it would create a much more versatile midgame. At the end of this WCS season, Blizzard should do a “Quality of Life” patch for all the unloved units in the game and shake up the meta. Banshees, ravens, nydus, carriers, thors, tempest(if they are still not used)ghosts. It’s a great way to keep the game fresh for the next season and keep things changing, while not totally fucking up the pro players who are in WCS. sounds really cool actually as long as they only make small changes and not to every unit at once lol, I especially think they should buff the nydus Dota 2 and League of Legends shack up the meta right after a season or leading up to a big event(dota 2 does it in the months leading up to TI#). Its is a great way to keep the game viable and sort of “break everything” and keeps the game fresh. The last Dota 2 patch buffed almost every underused hero and only did the most minor of nerfs. I think Blizzard should apply the same logic go SC2 after WCS is done for this year and give some love to those units that just don’t fit into the meta right now. wow, that's actually such a cool idea.
agree so much, in fact i dont get the anti patch attitude of the sc2 community, like the most interesting thing im looking for on tl every day is wheather patchnotes are published or not
like this one reddit thread after hots release seems to have killed any ambition david kim might have had to patch more
and really there are like soooo many underused things in sc2 its pretty crazy that all that is happening lately are such miniscule changes when there is so much potential in undertuned units and abilities
please please patch more and now with the wcs model its seven very easy and reliable to patch right after every world final
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Two base Ultra is the new two base swarm host.
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On August 21 2013 00:47 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 00:42 Plansix wrote:On August 21 2013 00:32 Die4Ever wrote:On August 20 2013 23:49 Plansix wrote:On August 20 2013 23:42 EFBarbarossa wrote:
I would have welcomed some nydus buff instead like a bit more hitpoints or else - right now, you hardly see and even less succeed yourself with nydus action if it can be killed by probes or 1 lone zealot/marine while being build. This might have helped in the midgame where I see more struggling than in late game. If zerg was allowed to use nydus a bit more like terra uses drops and protoss uses warp prism, which both have been buffed like hell btw :-) it would create a much more versatile midgame. At the end of this WCS season, Blizzard should do a “Quality of Life” patch for all the unloved units in the game and shake up the meta. Banshees, ravens, nydus, carriers, thors, tempest(if they are still not used)ghosts. It’s a great way to keep the game fresh for the next season and keep things changing, while not totally fucking up the pro players who are in WCS. sounds really cool actually as long as they only make small changes and not to every unit at once lol, I especially think they should buff the nydus Dota 2 and League of Legends shack up the meta right after a season or leading up to a big event(dota 2 does it in the months leading up to TI#). Its is a great way to keep the game viable and sort of “break everything” and keeps the game fresh. The last Dota 2 patch buffed almost every underused hero and only did the most minor of nerfs. I think Blizzard should apply the same logic go SC2 after WCS is done for this year and give some love to those units that just don’t fit into the meta right now. wow, that's actually such a cool idea.
No it's not cool at all.. Starcraft need stable methane performance and star players. I can't imagine any sports change rules all the time.
That's why I only call RTS the true esports.
MoBA can change whatever the metagame they like at any point. Everyone enjoys the constant refreshing gaming experience, even I myself enjoy it. It's for fun anyway. Esports is just another sale method.
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On August 21 2013 01:08 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 00:47 Big J wrote:On August 21 2013 00:42 Plansix wrote:On August 21 2013 00:32 Die4Ever wrote:On August 20 2013 23:49 Plansix wrote:On August 20 2013 23:42 EFBarbarossa wrote:
I would have welcomed some nydus buff instead like a bit more hitpoints or else - right now, you hardly see and even less succeed yourself with nydus action if it can be killed by probes or 1 lone zealot/marine while being build. This might have helped in the midgame where I see more struggling than in late game. If zerg was allowed to use nydus a bit more like terra uses drops and protoss uses warp prism, which both have been buffed like hell btw :-) it would create a much more versatile midgame. At the end of this WCS season, Blizzard should do a “Quality of Life” patch for all the unloved units in the game and shake up the meta. Banshees, ravens, nydus, carriers, thors, tempest(if they are still not used)ghosts. It’s a great way to keep the game fresh for the next season and keep things changing, while not totally fucking up the pro players who are in WCS. sounds really cool actually as long as they only make small changes and not to every unit at once lol, I especially think they should buff the nydus Dota 2 and League of Legends shack up the meta right after a season or leading up to a big event(dota 2 does it in the months leading up to TI#). Its is a great way to keep the game viable and sort of “break everything” and keeps the game fresh. The last Dota 2 patch buffed almost every underused hero and only did the most minor of nerfs. I think Blizzard should apply the same logic go SC2 after WCS is done for this year and give some love to those units that just don’t fit into the meta right now. wow, that's actually such a cool idea. No it's not cool at that. Starcraft need stable methane performance and star players. That's why I only call RTS the true reports. MoBA can change whatever the metagame they like at any point. It's for fun and more sale anyway. Esports is just a method got sale.
That is why they do it at the end of the season, no in the middle. It allows the game to settle down before the new season starts, but opens the door for new builds and strats, rather than the next season being rehash for the previous.
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