EPTOn August 19 2013 18:28 mtn wrote:
Sorry but using just 1 and a half of a mech is NOT a mech army ...
Sorry but using just 1 and a half of a mech is NOT a mech army ...
Yes? That was what I meant?
Interview of Flash on LoL, BW, Mech, Ruler & Girl - Page 7
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Penev
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Ender985
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liberate71
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On August 19 2013 13:50 insectoidform wrote: He might as well have said it because the interviewer said so. If you tackle someone on a basketball court, the team suffers because a player gets a penalty. If this game is to be taken seriously as an E-sport and be on the level of basketball he will have to take the penalty for the interviewer will he not? What on earth | ||
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Scrutinizer
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On August 19 2013 16:28 HazMat wrote: Really great to see Flash respect League of Legends. Random master level SC2 players get all elitists but the fucking god of motherfucking Starcraft Broodwar respects the game, that's great to see. I hate LoL, but a very well worded good point, made me LOL hard, I'm not being sarcastic. But still, he is one of the most polite progamers out there and it is a joint interview with a LoL player, just saying.. | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On August 19 2013 18:13 Penev wrote: Strange how people perceive Bombers failed Hellbat/ Thor experiment as the ultimate proof of mech not being viable. Not saying that it is but that game isn't exactly a good example of it. Hellbat/Thor isn't mech, it's Protoss with Terran units. Mech involves using the Siege Tank as a backbone, positional play, turtling, and slowly creeping the map with depot walls and turrets, eliminating bases and securing advantages. The Siege Tank proved too strong in the WoL beta, but here we are 3 years later and the Siege Tank is nearly unused in non-mirror matchups. I think David Kim needs to start taking a look at the Siege Tank. If not only for balance, but for more variety in Terran play and interest for spectators. | ||
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TAMinator
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chroniX
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pmp10
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On August 19 2013 18:13 Penev wrote: Strange how people perceive Bombers failed Hellbat/ Thor experiment as the ultimate proof of mech not being viable. Not saying that it is but that game isn't exactly a good example of it. That's because there were many more failures than just Bombers. Relatively recently we had attempts from Maru, Dayshi, Beastyqt and Strelok using different openings and mid-game transitions. Of them only a single one worked and it was a 2 base all-in. | ||
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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
On August 19 2013 13:50 insectoidform wrote: He might as well have said it because the interviewer said so. If you tackle someone on a basketball court, the team suffers because a player gets a penalty. If this game is to be taken seriously as an E-sport and be on the level of basketball he will have to take the penalty for the interviewer will he not? Ahahaha, made my day.. I don't even want to understeand, so much fun.. :D | ||
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TeeTS
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NeonFlare
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Hope he does fine in whatever he chooses to do. | ||
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Penev
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On August 19 2013 18:47 Arco wrote: Hellbat/Thor isn't mech, it's Protoss with Terran units. Mech involves using the Siege Tank as a backbone, positional play, turtling, and slowly creeping the map with depot walls and turrets, eliminating bases and securing advantages. The Siege Tank proved too strong in the WoL beta, but here we are 3 years later and the Siege Tank is nearly unused in non-mirror matchups. I think David Kim needs to start taking a look at the Siege Tank. If not only for balance, but for more variety in Terran play and interest for spectators. I must have worded my post badly I guess? Yes I agree, just Hellbats + Thors isn't mech. On August 19 2013 19:08 pmp10 wrote: That's because there were many more failures than just Bombers. Relatively recently we had attempts from Maru, Dayshi, Beastyqt and Strelok using different openings and mid-game transitions. Of them only a single one worked and it was a 2 base all-in. I'm aware of the current status of mech. But the Bomber Rain match shouldn't be used as an example for how good or bad mech is in HotS. That wasn't mech; He just massed Hellbats and Thors and a-moved into storms and Immortals. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12023 Posts
On August 19 2013 18:13 Penev wrote: Strange how people perceive Bombers failed Hellbat/ Thor experiment as the ultimate proof of mech not being viable. Not saying that it is but that game isn't exactly a good example of it. Since Kop? (I think) we haven't seen mech in Korea outside of TvT in HoTS... ever I think? If that doesn't show it's not viable then I have no idea what people need to do to make it obvious to you. There was a time when my fans like to give rulers to me as gift. Before every game, I use a 30CM ruler to measure my mousepad, the height of the Mouse Bungee, the distance between monitor and keyboard, etc. When I saw the rulers from my fans, I realized for the first time that there are so many kinds of rulers. Sometimes I receive 5-6 rulers everyday. And they are all different. Also this is the best thing I've ever heard. 5-6 rulers a day... damn he has quite the collection :D | ||
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
On August 19 2013 15:47 tl2212 wrote: FLASH WAS REALLY A PROTOSS PLAYER ALL ALONG He's like nal ra and reach , i hope he transitions into protoss in sc2. this is actually amazing. this is such an awesome interview If you understood how to play LoL as 2 characters at one time, you would understand how to play starcraft as LoL x 100 Wasn't anyone else disturbed by his protoss play in allstar matches? His offrace protoss looked as good as some of the worse dragons. This thread as usually is more sane than the reddit thread. On August 19 2013 16:15 Vindicare605 wrote: I hope Flash doesn't give up the Mech fight, he's one of the few pros I know of that are vocal about the issue of wanting Mech back for Terran. Very few pros have the kind of influence he does, maybe if he keeps voicing that opinion the devs might rethink their unilateral stance of wanting to keep Mech irrelevant. BW Mech was awesome to watch. Is that possible in a game where bio is so strong? Questionable. Would the casual playerbase survive going mech v protoss every time? Even more questionable. | ||
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Penev
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On August 19 2013 19:18 Qikz wrote: Since Kop? (I think) we haven't seen mech in Korea outside of TvT in HoTS... ever I think? If that doesn't show it's not viable then I have no idea what people need to do to make it obvious to you. Also this is the best thing I've ever heard. 5-6 rulers a day... damn he has quite the collection :D I'm curious; How do you interpret this sentence? Not saying that it is but that game isn't exactly a good example of it. | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
On August 19 2013 19:21 Sabu113 wrote: Wasn't anyone else disturbed by his protoss play in allstar matches? His offrace protoss looked as good as some of the worse dragons. This thread as usually is more sane than the reddit thread. BW Mech was awesome to watch. Is that possible in a game where bio is so strong? Questionable. Would the casual playerbase survive going mech v protoss every time? Even more questionable. Allstar match? I didnt watch it.. is it recent games? I wanna watch ..  I remember 1 interview saying Bisu more suited for terran, more multitask. And Flash say Protoss is good for him. Turtling and composition and he like force field .... | ||
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
Could swear there's also older matches where Flash played a PvT as protoss and was ridiculously good. I think limited mobility mech is more interesting than hyper dps hyper mobile bio. | ||
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acinx
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Highways
Australia6105 Posts
Every time I hear David Kim, it makes my blood boil that one person can destroy a whole game. | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
 ). If the fans criticism is ignored and viewed as "hating" then hopefully Flashs opinion will be seen as feedback. | ||
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