EPTOn August 19 2013 15:50 Clefairy wrote:
The former CJ coach's interview is more depressing.
The former CJ coach's interview is more depressing.
Would you happen to have a link to it? Also I thought the ruler talk was incredibly funny.
Interview of Flash on LoL, BW, Mech, Ruler & Girl - Page 5
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Serpico
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Would you happen to have a link to it? Also I thought the ruler talk was incredibly funny. | ||
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
 Whatever makes him feel better since he doesn't seem to be quite happy where he is now... | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
On August 19 2013 15:07 Fionn wrote: If he quit SC2, he'd probably just join the KT Rolster LoL squad I wish he would just switch to Protoss. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
Very few pros have the kind of influence he does, maybe if he keeps voicing that opinion the devs might rethink their unilateral stance of wanting to keep Mech irrelevant. | ||
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GolemMadness
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
On August 19 2013 16:01 Kergy wrote: Reddit and TL would implode if Flash suddenly switched to LoL but I'd love to see it happen Whatever makes him feel better since he doesn't seem to be quite happy where he is now... who knows, that interviewer seemed like he was putting pressure on him, i feel like he might have been just giving the polite reply considering league is so popular. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 19 2013 16:15 Vindicare605 wrote: I hope Flash doesn't give up the Mech fight, he's one of the few pros I know of that are vocal about the issue of wanting Mech back for Terran. Very few pros have the kind of influence he does, maybe if he keeps voicing that opinion the devs might rethink their unilateral stance of wanting to keep Mech irrelevant. Not enough pros use or try mech on a big stage to draw attention to it. Yeah Bomber tried it on Rain on OSL but it was pretty bad and no one thought it would work (I guess that is the problem with it). When was the last time mech was a real, promising option in a non TvT matchup? Mvp vs Life? | ||
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TaShadan
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On August 19 2013 16:15 Vindicare605 wrote: I hope Flash doesn't give up the Mech fight, he's one of the few pros I know of that are vocal about the issue of wanting Mech back for Terran. Very few pros have the kind of influence he does, maybe if he keeps voicing that opinion the devs might rethink their unilateral stance of wanting to keep Mech irrelevant. Hasn't MVP been vocal about balance too? I'm not sure if it was mech TvZ/TvP specifically, but even despite the gap in fame between the two, it seems like professional opinions -- even legendary ones, have regularly fallen on deaf ears. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On August 19 2013 16:27 lichter wrote: Not enough pros use or try mech on a big stage to draw attention to it. Yeah Bomber tried it on Rain on OSL but it was pretty bad and no one thought it would work (I guess that is the problem with it). When was the last time mech was a real, promising option in a non TvT matchup? Mvp vs Life? I'm not trying to start a Mvp circlejerk here but I seriously can't think of anyone else who has tried to use mech vs Zerg in HotS and actually won with it on a high profile stage. | ||
TheEmulator
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
I say that as a Jaedong fan. | ||
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Hellbat
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I would hate to see a legend such as Flash quit SC2 because of blizzard's piss poor management of their esports game. | ||
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Clefairy
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On August 19 2013 15:57 Serpico wrote: Would you happen to have a link to it? Also I thought the ruler talk was incredibly funny. "I don't agree with the statement that esports is in a crisis situation. LOL is doing really well right now so why is esports in a crisis? Why is the crisis for SC2 (and Korean SC2 at that) lumped as an esports crisis? Of course that would be because all the corporations have managed SC2 centric teams until now. I think we're just going through a period of trial and error. LOL is doing well, but another game could emerge and have great success at any time, and the baton will continue being passed. People can't help but play games. Recreational culture like Go and Janggi is still alive and games will probably grow even further than that. In the end, the game may change, but I think growth will continue under the banner of esports." There are already many LOL teams that have been formed under KeSPA, including CJ. For the past year, LOL players have sprung up everywhere and that is still the case now. Isn't it a bit late to make a LOL team now? "I don't think that way. Did TaekBangLeeSsang do well in Starcraft because they started first? There will always be emerging new heroes that surpass that era. There's nothing that can't be done just because you're a latecomer. A methodical system is important, but the most important thing is making sure that players play a game because they want to. That's the difference between Starcraft 1 and Starcraft 2. To put it bluntly, there aren't many players that started SC2 like that. It's good if they naturally get into a game because it's fun, but having to study a game just for the purposes of being good at it isn't good. But LOL is different. Everyone really wants to play it. If that prerequisite is in place, then all I need to do is offer a clear goal to players. That goal may be different for everyone, but I think finding that is my specialty. If I were to give a little hint, I hate all the players becoming consumables. I'm confident I can form a consensus with players." Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=134627&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd= | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On August 19 2013 16:27 lichter wrote: Not enough pros use or try mech on a big stage to draw attention to it. Yeah Bomber tried it on Rain on OSL but it was pretty bad and no one thought it would work (I guess that is the problem with it). When was the last time mech was a real, promising option in a non TvT matchup? Mvp vs Life? The fact none of them are using it should be evidence enough shouldn't it? Especially when in Flash's case they WANT to? These are guys that are playing to win with money on the line, they aren't going to use a strategy on televised games that they aren't absolutely confident in. I can be sure that nearly every Terran pro at some point has tried meching in practice or on the ladder. Saying, "well we don't know it's weak unless they use it where we can see it." is a dumb argument. | ||
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
On August 19 2013 13:59 Wildmoon wrote: What's funny is in BW, it was always mech except for TvZ but Flash said there was a choice. -_-" Like many people I don't know much about BroodWar strategies, so it's your word against Flash word to us. In order to fully understand what chance your word stands against his when it comes to BroodWar, you must first understand a thing or two about quantum mechanics and Planck length. From wikipedia: "the Planck length is so many orders of magnitude smaller than any current instrument could possibly measure..." | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 19 2013 16:37 Vindicare605 wrote: The fact none of them are using it should be evidence enough shouldn't it? Especially when in Flash's case they WANT to? These are guys that are playing to win with money on the line, they aren't going to use a strategy on televised games that they aren't absolutely confident in. I can be sure that nearly every Terran pro at some point has tried meching in practice or on the ladder. Saying, "well we don't know it's weak unless they use it where we can see it." is a dumb argument. Not sure why you are arguing with me. I said not enough pros have tried it, thus not a lot of negative attention. Not that we have lack of evidence. Mech lacks attention. Basically I am saying "we knew Bomber was dumb for using mech vs Rain because everyone knows it doesn't work" and "no one has used mech non TvT since Mvp, and that reveals something of a problem (that no one has used it since)", not that we don't have enough evidence -_-'' | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
On August 19 2013 13:54 ETisME wrote: I think the reason why Flash said he was excited to play every game in BW is because it was more popular. (not him) (星际1的人气最高的时候每次出场都让人感到开心。现在是感受不到那时候的气氛了) And thank god (/flash) for speaking out for mech style. Hopefully David Kim can start opening his mind up before saying things like "do we even want mech to be as viable as bio?" Starcraft 1 popularity at its peak, everytime I went out to play I felt happy. Now I cannot feel the atmosphere anymore.. I remember Flash said Protoss is very strong and force field is very good~~ Ahhh.. Shit, now I keep imagine how he uses force field... Maybe in his mind, he has alot ideas to use force field. But we never know now.. Can he do a switch now? Or will it set him back alot?  | ||
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