lol...

Drama, drama, drama. I'm not sure why I'm surprised really. They're all in the entertainment business, and drama seems to be very popular in that respect!

Hrrrrm

United States2081 Posts

August 16 2013 05:13 GMT

#62

This sucks. Was hoping for more people like Genna in the scene and then there she goes.

KuKri

Germany168 Posts

August 16 2013 05:27 GMT

#63

Miscommunication, Axiom couldn't spend as much money for the ATC tournament, Take tried to fix it, it didn't work out, Genna Bain revealed private communication with Take about funding, Take responded again in privately to Genna, indirectly pointing towards taking legal actions, and she made it public again? Is this what this is about?
Why is Take to be blamed? I must've missed out on something...

Wingblade

United States1806 Posts

August 16 2013 05:28 GMT

#64

On August 16 2013 13:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
TB's thought's in audio form.
https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/gennas-retirement

I just listened to this... holy crap clinical depression? I feel for Genna even more right now. You don't need to "be on their side" to feel for her when you hear about everything they've been going to.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

August 16 2013 05:28 GMT

#65

Melodrama

Topdoller

United Kingdom3860 Posts

August 16 2013 05:28 GMT

#66

Never wash your dirty linen in public,in other words if you are in a position of responsibility keep,off Twitch,Facebook,Reddit etc or you will sooner or later get caught out. You have to keep it professional or you will never be taken seriously, this is a business and bad press can have a negative impact.

Way to much drama about this situation

Havik_

United States5585 Posts

August 16 2013 05:30 GMT

#67

Total Biscuit is still involved, the team isn't dead yet as far as I can tell, what's the big deal? Maybe she just doesn't want to deal with all the nonsense of running the team?

tiaz

Sweden231 Posts

August 16 2013 05:33 GMT

#68

I feel this whole thing concerns me in very few ways, but in the ways that do concern me, I don't care particularly much.

PresenceSc2

Australia4032 Posts

August 16 2013 05:36 GMT

#69

Poor TB lol

PresenceSc2

Australia4032 Posts

August 16 2013 05:36 GMT

#70

On August 16 2013 14:30 Havik_ wrote:
Total Biscuit is still involved, the team isn't dead yet as far as I can tell, what's the big deal? Maybe she just doesn't want to deal with all the nonsense of running the team?

But why did it have to turn into a drama like this @_@

NovemberstOrm

Canada16217 Posts

August 16 2013 05:39 GMT

#71

On August 16 2013 14:36 Za7oX wrote:

Show nested quote +

But why did it have to turn into a drama like this @_@

Everyone seemed quick to react to what happened.

beesinyoface

2450 Posts

August 16 2013 05:39 GMT

#72

On August 16 2013 14:36 Za7oX wrote:

Show nested quote +

But why did it have to turn into a drama like this @_@

Because it's related to SC2, what else did you expect?

Daswollvieh

5553 Posts

August 16 2013 05:44 GMT

#73

I really wish for the Axiom players that things settle down and become stable. I mean, they´re already traumatized by the Jessica-drama-rama, no need for another one. I´m worried though, that the whole team is dissolved in a hysteric fit of frustration over some silly shit. Please stay strong!

thirtyapm

521 Posts

August 16 2013 05:44 GMT

#74

how does leaving help???
cmon genna, stay and help the team out.
regardless of whether this is a mistake, learn and grow.
you were doing great, keep at it.

DeepS

Romania1 Post

August 16 2013 05:47 GMT

#75

Respect goes out for the effort that TB and Genna put into e-sports. In this troubled time, it's easy to look into this sea of negativity and drama. It's harder to see some of the more positive and encouraging messages. So I hope one of them reads this. I wish you the absolute best in the future, Genna. I hope you feel better soon, and that everything works out for you.

I will make a small side note, and pretty much stop supporting TaKe in any way I can. Instead of cursing at him, and just creating so much drama and hostility and negativity within the scene. Just cut all support away from Take. it's as simple as that.

Zenbrez

Canada5973 Posts

August 16 2013 05:49 GMT

#76

On August 16 2013 14:36 Za7oX wrote:

Show nested quote +

But why did it have to turn into a drama like this @_@

Ask Take.

how does leaving help???

How does not having to deal with a massive amount of responsibility not going to help? I'm not going to pretend I know half of what goes into it, but neither do you. But I do know it's a lot can be quite draining.

BlackPanther

United States872 Posts

August 16 2013 05:58 GMT

#77

People need to understand the stress that Genna is under. We can argue all day about how she did some less than ideal things in regards with the latest situation but TB revealed that she is currently clincally depressed. On top of that shes been having to manage 2 companies (Cynical Brit and Axiom), be a mother to her son and a wife to her husband. The community should not be giving any shit to anyone involved. It was a bad set of events that resulted in a major loss to the scene. If you really want to help SC2 become better, start by not being a toxic shit and throwing blame at people.

Best of luck to Genna and I hope she gets better.

KuKri

Germany168 Posts

August 16 2013 06:00 GMT

#78

On August 16 2013 14:49 Zenbrez wrote:

Show nested quote +

Ask Take.

Show nested quote +

How does not having to deal with a massive amount of responsibility not going to help? I'm not going to pretend I know half of what goes into it, but neither do you. But I do know it's a lot can be quite draining.

I don't get it... I only see TB and Genna make blogs and audio records about how bad of a person Take is, revealing parts of what was supposed to be private communication. Why do you hold Take responsible for turning this into a drama?
He didn't make anything about this public, did he? Again, what did I miss?

RaiKageRyu

Canada4773 Posts

August 16 2013 06:02 GMT

#79

WHAAAT?!!!

This felt like I got hit by a brick out of nowhere.

benjiman

United Kingdom3 Posts

August 16 2013 06:05 GMT

#80

The term "dirty laundry" was thrown around, but I disagree on that assessment. The information was provided by Genna in an attempt to provide information for the community about why the team had pulled out of ATC... and there is nothing particularly damning in any of that information, short of some very unfortunate miscommunication. As you will notice at the time, Genna seemed to be very positive towards Take and everything he was doing for them - I cant speak for TB's position on him at the time, but I cant imagine it was too different.

That means that the majority of the problems between the two parties, in our view at least - and it is entirely possible there was more to it that we don't know - came from the comments made in Genna's later blog. Now, Take certainly has a reason to be annoyed. I'm sure the conversation was made in the expectation that it be private between them, and I cant help personally wondering if the comments made there were extremely heat of the moment, that perhaps the implication that Take hopes Genna receives legal action against her was not exactly what he had in mind in making the comments he did. While he certainly would be angry, he cant really have had THAT much antagonism towards Genna just from a relatively neutral conversation being exposed.

Ultimately, and unfortunately, the damage has been done, regardless of the intention. Genna has, as TB tells us, been dealing with other problems, and this was the final straw. TB may have teething issues in dealing with what is simply people serving their respective companies rather than the people they are dealing with, but I am fairly sure that an unusual method of handling problems wont stop him from getting what he needs to get done, done. It just seems that he will need help if he intends to continue with his other work too. Hope he finds that help. Id be up for it but I doubt I could help out here in the lovely UK. ^^

As an aside, if nothing else, this will give Genna time to coalesce and handle any continue problems she has. Heres hoping for the best, for the both of you.