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United States15275 Posts
On August 16 2013 13:36 Caihead wrote:
So wait, from what I understand, how was it professional for Genna to make a sensationalist blog post
"AxiomHate 2013 : The ATC Edition"
and openly broadcast private emails in the first place? Even the so called "threats" is actually
"[6:51:33 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: actually i hope that by law
[6:51:40 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is something you can get punnished for?"
Where Dennis says that he HOPES that this is something you can get punished for, which I wouldn't blame the guy for since releasing private emails (which is considered legal tender in some areas) can be construed as infringement on individual / corporate rights. Not to mention that was also a part of a private conversation that Dennis did not broadcast nor actually seek legal action (at least to what we know).
From what I've seen she seems to be good with the team and ran it well, but I don't see how this hate on Dennis is justified.
Er, I don't think "legal tender" means what you think it means.
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On August 16 2013 13:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 13:36 Caihead wrote:
So wait, from what I understand, how was it professional for Genna to make a sensationalist blog post
"AxiomHate 2013 : The ATC Edition"
and openly broadcast private emails in the first place? Even the so called "threats" is actually
"[6:51:33 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: actually i hope that by law
[6:51:40 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is something you can get punnished for?"
Where Dennis says that he HOPES that this is something you can get punished for, which I wouldn't blame the guy for since releasing private emails (which is considered legal tender in some areas) can be construed as infringement on individual / corporate rights. Not to mention that was also a part of a private conversation that Dennis did not broadcast nor actually seek legal action (at least to what we know).
From what I've seen she seems to be good with the team and ran it well, but I don't see how this hate on Dennis is justified. Er, I don't think "legal tender" means what you think it means.
oops, typed that wrong
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Assuming a Team should get their information on what funding they will be getting for participating in the offline portion of your event, that you invited them too, is unprofessional, The email "accidentally" not being sent is also unprofessional.
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I did not see this comming. I hope T.B. can handle all the extra work.
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United States15275 Posts
On August 16 2013 13:46 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 13:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 16 2013 13:36 Caihead wrote:
So wait, from what I understand, how was it professional for Genna to make a sensationalist blog post
"AxiomHate 2013 : The ATC Edition"
and openly broadcast private emails in the first place? Even the so called "threats" is actually
"[6:51:33 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: actually i hope that by law
[6:51:40 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is something you can get punnished for?"
Where Dennis says that he HOPES that this is something you can get punished for, which I wouldn't blame the guy for since releasing private emails (which is considered legal tender in some areas) can be construed as infringement on individual / corporate rights. Not to mention that was also a part of a private conversation that Dennis did not broadcast nor actually seek legal action (at least to what we know).
From what I've seen she seems to be good with the team and ran it well, but I don't see how this hate on Dennis is justified. Er, I don't think "legal tender" means what you think it means. oops, typed that wrong
Much better. ^_^
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On August 16 2013 13:47 00higgo wrote:
Assuming a Team should get their information on what funding they will be getting for participating in the offline portion of your event, that you invited them too, is unprofessional, The email "accidentally" not being sent is also unprofessional.
Well, if you look at HSC, it really is about the least "professional" tournament... I actually see more people sitting on a couch than I do SC2 matches when watching Take.tv (not tournament specific). Though, I do like when players cast because it's significantly better than normal casting.
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Sucks to hear, best of luck in the future and as for Take all I can do is vote with my feet. There's enough tournaments out there to skip his events without missing out too much.
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Canada16217 Posts
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All of this just makes me incredibly sad.
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More drama, I don´t even...
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Well I wouldn't appreciate people copy pasting my private chat logs to public without asking me first. But I probably wouldn't suggest a lawsuit for doing so either though.
It feels like only SC2 community could create so much drama just because one team can't attend a tournament due to not having the money to go there. There's no winners in any of this.
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Dennis : okay i see but lets be honest thier chances doing pretty okay at the finale are there if we cant find a deal at all it would be the worst solution right? the point is i dont have big budgets that i can pay from my own pocket 3-4-5 flights
Genna : Worst case scenario, we forfeit and Millenium takes our slot.
Dennis : but before a team is not coming i really wanna help and even willing to pay some of my money into it thats why i ask i just try to find options
Genna : I'll have to talk to John about it to see if we have anything leftover from our sponsor pool for the month.
Dennis : okay and i will talk to acer about it if they would cover another 1500+ i think i am willing to help to on top
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"Totalbiscuit @Totalbiscuit 16 Aug
Oh and Fuck Take by the way"
Take offers to help them with money and this is what he gets.really do not know why the genna-tb couple feels they ar emore entitled than anyone else in esports.
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On August 16 2013 14:04 theking1 wrote:
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Dennis : okay i see but lets be honest thier chances doing pretty okay at the finale are there if we cant find a deal at all it would be the worst solution right? the point is i dont have big budgets that i can pay from my own pocket 3-4-5 flights
Genna : Worst case scenario, we forfeit and Millenium takes our slot.
Dennis : but before a team is not coming i really wanna help and even willing to pay some of my money into it thats why i ask i just try to find options
Genna : I'll have to talk to John about it to see if we have anything leftover from our sponsor pool for the month.
Dennis : okay and i will talk to acer about it if they would cover another 1500+ i think i am willing to help to on top
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"Totalbiscuit @Totalbiscuit 16 Aug
Oh and Fuck Take by the way"
Take offers to help them with money and this is what he gets.really do not know why the genna-tb couple feels they ar emore entitled than anyone else in esports.
Take threatened legal actions against her. That's what prompted the fuck Take not the tournament.
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Either way there are no winners here, only losers.
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Canada16217 Posts
On August 16 2013 14:04 theking1 wrote:
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Dennis : okay i see but lets be honest thier chances doing pretty okay at the finale are there if we cant find a deal at all it would be the worst solution right? the point is i dont have big budgets that i can pay from my own pocket 3-4-5 flights
Genna : Worst case scenario, we forfeit and Millenium takes our slot.
Dennis : but before a team is not coming i really wanna help and even willing to pay some of my money into it thats why i ask i just try to find options
Genna : I'll have to talk to John about it to see if we have anything leftover from our sponsor pool for the month.
Dennis : okay and i will talk to acer about it if they would cover another 1500+ i think i am willing to help to on top
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"Totalbiscuit @Totalbiscuit 16 Aug
Oh and Fuck Take by the way"
Take offers to help them with money and this is what he gets.really do not know why the genna-tb couple feels they ar emore entitled than anyone else in esports.
Dude quit posting all you're doing is ignoring logic and shit posting Genna & TB.
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On August 16 2013 14:05 TheButtonmen wrote:
Either way there are no winners here, only losers.
meh i feel like the drama-lovers which seems to be a big part of the vocal community are the winners, they got their weekly dish...
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Obviously, the logistics of having a LAN teamleague finals (especially with 4 teams, not just 2 teams like IPL) makes it nearly impossible outside of Korea.
It should be obvious from the start that paid flights are necessary if teams even want to participate...
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On August 16 2013 14:04 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 14:04 theking1 wrote:
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Dennis : okay i see but lets be honest thier chances doing pretty okay at the finale are there if we cant find a deal at all it would be the worst solution right? the point is i dont have big budgets that i can pay from my own pocket 3-4-5 flights
Genna : Worst case scenario, we forfeit and Millenium takes our slot.
Dennis : but before a team is not coming i really wanna help and even willing to pay some of my money into it thats why i ask i just try to find options
Genna : I'll have to talk to John about it to see if we have anything leftover from our sponsor pool for the month.
Dennis : okay and i will talk to acer about it if they would cover another 1500+ i think i am willing to help to on top
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"Totalbiscuit @Totalbiscuit 16 Aug
Oh and Fuck Take by the way"
Take offers to help them with money and this is what he gets.really do not know why the genna-tb couple feels they ar emore entitled than anyone else in esports.
Take threatened legal actions against her. That's what prompted the fuck Take not the tournament.
there a lot of things sayd on skype.TAKE didn't take any action.he might have well said that when he was upset.He never would have taken action.Like I said.Genna and totalbiscuti are way to entitled for their own good.The man tried to help them out and they publish the private conversation.period.
@novermberormst
why?because you have another oppinion than mine?or because there has long been evidence of this happening?Take has organized 7 hsc,some of the biggest and nicest tournaments this community has seen and because he made a threat on skype after without actually doing anything he gets bad pr without defending himself.
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Hey Guys,
we will provide you with some more information very soon We also had alot of stuff to do with the cebit BUT! I saw some question i would love to answer and i think you might like them!!
We cover 1500 Dollar travelexpenses to support the teams Plus! Hotels for the teams so that they don t have to pay all the costs!!! I hope this shows that we want to help the teams and we know its expensive to send 4-5 players!
Beside that this will be an onlineleague with the top 4 qualifying for the offline finale which is 2 days (Saturday/Sunday) at my place!!
More information will come!! Stay tuned and awesome first feedback <333 i am an old wc3 player and played several wc3l saisons and i was aiming for this teamleague for along time and i am happy that acer and also intel is supporting me with that <3 but also don t forget about roccat and needforseat who support the whole thing too!
Times for the qualifiers will be also announced offiicially very soon but we have to wait for an official go but it will be soon! All teams be prepared!
//Dennis
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some of us saw the shitstorm happening ever since tb starting saying on twitter how he wants to move form sc2 casting and then throwing the 100k$ in our face like he was the only teamowner investing money into esports.
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Genna Bain and John Bain. Are they blood related?
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