EPTGenna Bain leaves Axiom - Page 2
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Danger Boy
United States47 Posts
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HyperDesi
63 Posts
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
Wait, is this a different Bain? | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
Well, he also posted in her blog (and said fuck TaKe again). | ||
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Polygamy
Austria1114 Posts
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duckTemplar
United States156 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44340 Posts
He is really, really not handling this well. In the other thread, he openly states that Axiom will no longer be attending anything related to Take (which hurts his team more than anything else), and essentially every comment coming from him is unprofessional. Yeah, I get the whole brutal honesty thing, but I think a little tact is important too. + Show Spoiler + On August 16 2013 13:00 TotalBiscuit wrote: Fuck Dennis. If he wasn't so concerned about saving face rather than being honest with everybody about his mismanaged tournament then some of this might not have happened. When you say "I hope there are legal consequences for what you've done" all bets are off, I lose any respect I've had for you. I hope Take enjoyed the free casting and the numbers, I'll never deal with him and his organisation ever again. ~http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=425693¤tpage=2 | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 16 2013 13:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: He is really, really not handling this well. In the other thread, he openly states that Axiom will no longer be attending anything related to Take (which hurts his team more than anything else), and essentially every comment coming from him is unprofessional. Yeah, I get the whole brutal honesty thing, but I think a little tact is important too. + Show Spoiler + On August 16 2013 13:00 TotalBiscuit wrote: Fuck Dennis. If he wasn't so concerned about saving face rather than being honest with everybody about his mismanaged tournament then some of this might not have happened. When you say "I hope there are legal consequences for what you've done" all bets are off, I lose any respect I've had for you. I hope Take enjoyed the free casting and the numbers, I'll never deal with him and his organisation ever again. ~http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=425693¤tpage=2 I don't know, does it? No ATC - if that ever happens again - and no HSC. All of his/her players are based in Korea, so it's not like they're missing out on regional tournaments or anything. WCS, GSTL and the various offline majors seem like more than enough for any team. Not having TotalBiscuit cast for TaKe's tourmanents seems like a bigger blow to me. | ||
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hangene92
Canada258 Posts
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Patjuh
Netherlands20 Posts
Of course I can only judge based on what I've read for the past couple of days, but I don't think Dennis 'Take' should threaten with exploring the legal possibilities of suing someone (especially not in an international affair). I do believe it's not smooth to publish any private conversations, but then again people should put things into perspective a bit more. Not only does any such threats (from Dennis) put the community unnecessarily on 'sharp' (in a negative way, lots of negativity will flow around for the next days), I actually believe he might not have such a strong case towards Mrs. Bain (I doubt he would speak for Acer by proclaiming such actions, and if he does then he really has no clue). If for any reason the contracts between contract-parties have non-disclosure clauses, obviously (legal) rules are broken (freedom of contract); however, it depends on who signed what contract whether someone is guilty of breaking such rules stated in the mutually agreed contract (a contract between Acer and Dennis 'Take' would have no legal force towards Mrs. Bain, therefore she needs to be party in a separate contract herself; it would obviously be the joke of the day if Take would threaten Mrs. Bain based on a contract where he's no legal party off). And even then, if eventually she would be to blame for something, one of the foremost reasons why e-sports related conflicts (almost) never get in front of a legal court is because the involved interests for the contracted parties don't weigh up against all the time, effort and costs any such scenario would take up. I hope this is in no way the beginning of the end of Axiom, nor the beginning of hell breaking loose within the community/industry... | ||
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ladysman09
237 Posts
Although TB has the manager title we all know who the real boss is behind the scenes. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
"AxiomHate 2013 : The ATC Edition" and openly broadcast private emails in the first place? Even the so called "threats" is actually "[6:51:33 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: actually i hope that by law [6:51:40 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is something you can get punnished for?" Where Dennis says that he HOPES that this is something you can get punished for, which I wouldn't blame the guy for since releasing private emails (which is considered legal binding in some areas) can be construed as infringement on individual / corporate rights. Not to mention that was also a part of a private conversation that Dennis did not broadcast nor actually seek legal action (at least to what we know). From what I've seen she seems to be good with the team and ran it well, but I don't see how this hate on Dennis is justified. | ||
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DeathDyingDoomKiller
Canada91 Posts
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Nomzter
Sweden2802 Posts
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xtyxtbx
United States53 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On August 16 2013 13:37 DeathDyingDoomKiller wrote: TOTAL BISCUIT!!!! oh wait, will this interfere with his YouTube D: I'm guessing he's just going to make like vlogs on it and drive up traffic to his youtubes, all press is good press. | ||
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P7GAB
Canada486 Posts
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On August 16 2013 13:39 xtyxtbx wrote: Never was a T.B. fan. I respect him for his hard work in the e-sports community, but sometimes he just lets trolls get the best of him and goes on a freak out. I seen him do it once or twice, so i'm not really confident with the direction Axiom is going. You mean once or twice... a thread? In any case, kinda sad to see her go given that she seems to be a really nice person. | ||
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Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
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