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TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 08 2013 13:36 GMT
#81
So, what is MLG going to replace SC2 with? Seems odd to just drop a game if you have nothing else planned.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 13:36:31
August 08 2013 13:36 GMT
#82
On August 08 2013 22:34 DavoS wrote:
Way to be selfish MLG; Polt has to pay for school somehow! (aside from the money he already has piled up from SC2 so far)


true, polt is the biggest loser in all of this
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
August 08 2013 13:36 GMT
#83
On August 08 2013 22:35 v_lm wrote:
TO the question : "Why is the prizepool ridiculous at MLG ANheim"
MLG answered : "Its because of the trouble we had with Blizzard who made the situation unclear"
MLG thought : "Its to initiate dropping sc2"

So they shit on BLizzard, Let me please shit on them peacefully.

So where did you get your awesome inside information on MLG? Do you sit in on their meetings? Hack their emails?
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DeCoder
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland236 Posts
August 08 2013 13:37 GMT
#84
On August 08 2013 22:30 leo23 wrote:
Not the end of the world, but the beginning of it.


Could not have said it better myself. We can take this announcement to mean "SC2 propably won't be at Columbus". And once it's dropped it's not coming back.

SC2 simply can't compete with something that is free to play.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
August 08 2013 13:37 GMT
#85
Although this sucks, I'm more curious about what will replace it (if anything). The first thing that comes to mind is DOTA2, but doesn't riot have some strict rules about League being at events with other mobas?
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 08 2013 13:38 GMT
#86
On August 08 2013 22:36 TheRabidDeer wrote:
So, what is MLG going to replace SC2 with? Seems odd to just drop a game if you have nothing else planned.


To be honest, they could give all the space to LoL alone and they would have enough people to fill it.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2013 13:39 GMT
#87
On August 08 2013 22:37 DeCoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:30 leo23 wrote:
Not the end of the world, but the beginning of it.


Could not have said it better myself. We can take this announcement to mean "SC2 propably won't be at Columbus". And once it's dropped it's not coming back.

SC2 simply can't compete with something that is free to play.

Or its on every night of the week and MLG doesn't want to compete with this. Or there are WCS finals near that weekend that we don't know about yet and no players could attend. Or a number of other reasons.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33671 Posts
August 08 2013 13:39 GMT
#88
On August 08 2013 22:38 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:36 TheRabidDeer wrote:
So, what is MLG going to replace SC2 with? Seems odd to just drop a game if you have nothing else planned.


To be honest, they could give all the space to LoL alone and they would have enough people to fill it.


yah but there's probably more money to be made by working with other publishers to promote their games D:
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
August 08 2013 13:40 GMT
#89
So does anybody else still have that MLG Gold Membership? Or am I the Last of the Mohicans?

Time to cancel I guess.


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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
August 08 2013 13:40 GMT
#90
Maybe if the SC2 community would stop being so stubborn about team games we could compete better with teamsports. It's just easier to follow teams, and you have more players to root for. Think about it- people will watch whole matches if ONE of the ten players is one of their favorites.

I've been saying this for years now, but there's no reason mapmakers can't make 2v2 viable.
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Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
August 08 2013 13:41 GMT
#91
I wouldn't be surprised if WoT took a spot at MLG with the amount of money wargaming has been spending on "e-sports" recently. Although maybe it would be a little weird since they'd be directly competing with NASL over it then.
"See you space cowboy"
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
August 08 2013 13:41 GMT
#92
Not a big surprise really. Let's see if they change their mind closer to the date
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
August 08 2013 13:41 GMT
#93
On August 08 2013 22:25 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:22 SpecialistSc wrote:
simply put, sc2 is not a investment that's worth any more
just look at the viewer count
a single LoL pro's stream gets more views than WCS America premiere league early stages

So WHY invest in sc2? MLG good job, nobody can blame you guys for making a sensical decision

I don't see how you would know if it's worth it or not, our viewer numbers are not terrible, sure they aren't growing but they are stable.


Stagnation is regression. If others move ahead, and we don't make any progress, we will come out on the short end in the long run.

Anyway, i hope mlg just experiements with things and comes to a positive result regarding StarCraft/eSport after columbus.
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TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 08 2013 13:41 GMT
#94
On August 08 2013 22:40 Crownlol wrote:
Maybe if the SC2 community would stop being so stubborn about team games we could compete better with teamsports. It's just easier to follow teams, and you have more players to root for. Think about it- people will watch whole matches if ONE of the ten players is one of their favorites.

I've been saying this for years now, but there's no reason mapmakers can't make 2v2 viable.

Balance would be a big issue. If you think 1v1 balance is tenuous, 2v2 is like a hundred times more complicated.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2013 13:42 GMT
#95
On August 08 2013 22:40 Crownlol wrote:
Maybe if the SC2 community would stop being so stubborn about team games we could compete better with teamsports. It's just easier to follow teams, and you have more players to root for. Think about it- people will watch whole matches if ONE of the ten players is one of their favorites.

I've been saying this for years now, but there's no reason mapmakers can't make 2v2 viable.

I will watch EG vs TL all week, every week.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6306 Posts
August 08 2013 13:42 GMT
#96
On August 08 2013 22:33 SpecialistSc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:26 packrat386 wrote:
On August 08 2013 22:22 SpecialistSc wrote:
simply put, sc2 is not a investment that's worth any more
just look at the viewer count
a single LoL pro's stream gets more views than WCS America premiere league early stages

So WHY invest in sc2? MLG good job, nobody can blame you guys for making a sensical decision

This is kind of a shitty argument. "A single regular season NFL game gets more viewers than the WCS AM finals". That doesn't mean that its impossible to make money on SC2.


Resources can be better spent.

MLG thinks resources can be better spent doesn't necesarily mean it is true.
izen
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden136 Posts
August 08 2013 13:43 GMT
#97
On August 08 2013 22:34 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:31 izen wrote:
Not the biggest fan of MLG anyway, I was in the early stages, rain vs boxer stages. Since then they have goon downhills in my eyes. Yes i always watch MLG if there is a good match on one of the streams, not like they others where i'm glued to the stream like Dreamhack's. It would suck really hard if they left sc2 out :/

"I don't like MLG and I don't really watch it much. I will be sad if they drop SC2."

wut?



Im sorry for my english. I didn't write "i dont like MLG" _i'm not the biggest FAN_, HUGE difference, i still watch MLGs. Also if they leave sc2 behind it will be a huge blow for the NA scen.
My grammar sucks. Everything i write comes out wrong
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Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
August 08 2013 13:43 GMT
#98
On August 08 2013 22:41 Striker.superfreunde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:25 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 08 2013 22:22 SpecialistSc wrote:
simply put, sc2 is not a investment that's worth any more
just look at the viewer count
a single LoL pro's stream gets more views than WCS America premiere league early stages

So WHY invest in sc2? MLG good job, nobody can blame you guys for making a sensical decision

I don't see how you would know if it's worth it or not, our viewer numbers are not terrible, sure they aren't growing but they are stable.


Stagnation is regression. If others move ahead, and we don't make any progress, we will come out on the short end in the long run.

Anyway, i hope mlg just experiements with things and comes to a positive result regarding StarCraft/eSport after columbus.


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Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 13:45:31
August 08 2013 13:44 GMT
#99
Would be nice if they rethink it.

Edit: Wasn´t it a MLG with the epic Flash vs Life finals?
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 13:48:30
August 08 2013 13:44 GMT
#100
On August 08 2013 22:37 DeCoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:30 leo23 wrote:
Not the end of the world, but the beginning of it.


Could not have said it better myself. We can take this announcement to mean "SC2 propably won't be at Columbus". And once it's dropped it's not coming back.

SC2 simply can't compete with something that is free to play.


but sc2 doesnt compete with lol in any way?

On August 08 2013 22:41 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:40 Crownlol wrote:
Maybe if the SC2 community would stop being so stubborn about team games we could compete better with teamsports. It's just easier to follow teams, and you have more players to root for. Think about it- people will watch whole matches if ONE of the ten players is one of their favorites.

I've been saying this for years now, but there's no reason mapmakers can't make 2v2 viable.

Balance would be a big issue. If you think 1v1 balance is tenuous, 2v2 is like a hundred times more complicated.


the biggest problem in 2v2 right now is the map pool. no one can coherently argue balance one way or the other when the maps are on the same quality level as WoL release maps.

On August 08 2013 22:36 TheRabidDeer wrote:
So, what is MLG going to replace SC2 with? Seems odd to just drop a game if you have nothing else planned.


the way it seems to come across is that since MLG has no clue how to run an event within a reasonable budget, one that can be supported by advertising, they need developers to be willing to invest cash behind the scenes to make it worth while. it would be reasonable to assume that blizzard helped in some way with the costing of events up until this year, when blizzard is fronting the money for WCS why do they need MLG to run sc2 events?

so its not about what they have planned, they just simply lose money on every event unless someone picks up the tab, so they would rather have nothing than something.
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