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pesshaulol
Norway53 Posts
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On July 25 2013 20:45 pesshaulol wrote: China and Russia always have probems with this, wonder why.... Because the USA has a grudge, and being beaten by china in esports on your own soil would make you look even worse XD | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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ragz_gt
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
I am not Chinese but my Dad married a Chinese woman and spends half the year in Beijing. He has told me many stories from his wife's relatives about the hassle it can be for Chinese citizens to obtain Passports and Visas to travel abroad (to the UK). | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On July 25 2013 20:47 LongShot27 wrote: Because the USA has a grudge, and being beaten by china in esports on your own soil would make you look even worse XD Holy shit, it didn't even occur to me that the officer at the embassy probably was a SC2 fan, recognized Jim and didn't want him to crush his favourite pro in WCS AM. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On July 25 2013 20:49 revel8 wrote: It can be very difficult and time-consuming for Chinese citizens to get permission by their Government to travel abroad. As well as various written invitations from abroad which seem mandatory, the process can just take months. It helps if you have connections with the Communist Party but even with this the granting of Visa's can take a somewhat arbitrary amount of time. The bureaucratic process could do with being streamlined but I suspect it is deliberately onerous. I am not Chinese but my Dad married a Chinese woman and spends half the year in Beijing. He has told me many stories from his wife's relatives about the hassle it can be for Chinese citizens to obtain Passports and Visas to travel abroad (to the UK). There is no special permission Chinese need get to travel abroad. They need their passport, and it's somewhat harder to get than western passport, but not by much. And obviously they both have passport already. They do need special permission to travel to HK and Macau though. Also visa is granted by visiting country; it has NOTHING to do with Chinese government (unless you get a diplomatic visa). | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On July 25 2013 20:51 Musicus wrote: Holy shit, it didn't even occur to me that the officer at the embassy probably was a SC2 fan, recognized Jim and didn't want him to crush his favourite pro in WCS AM. Someone obviously isn't a fan of humour. | ||
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jiberish
80 Posts
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Draconicfire
Canada2562 Posts
On July 25 2013 20:51 Musicus wrote: Holy shit, it didn't even occur to me that the officer at the embassy probably was a SC2 fan, recognized Jim and didn't want him to crush his favourite pro in WCS AM. Nah he was probably a secret Dota fan who didn't want a Chinese guy possibly stealing views from the International. Right? Right. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
You didn't get my sarcasm, I am a fan of humour and thought you post was funny and I wanted to jump on and be funny too, but why do you hate me so much? Makes me sad  . | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On July 25 2013 20:49 revel8 wrote: It can be very difficult and time-consuming for Chinese citizens to get permission by their Government to travel abroad. As well as various written invitations from abroad which seem mandatory, the process can just take months. It helps if you have connections with the Communist Party but even with this the granting of Visa's can take a somewhat arbitrary amount of time. The bureaucratic process could do with being streamlined but I suspect it is deliberately onerous. I am not Chinese but my Dad married a Chinese woman and spends half the year in Beijing. He has told me many stories from his wife's relatives about the hassle it can be for Chinese citizens to obtain Passports and Visas to travel abroad (to the UK). I don't know specifics, but generally the granting of Visas has absolutely nothing to do with your own government. If the issue was the Visa and not the Passport, the domestic government is probably not the culprit. Edit: ninjaed | ||
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
"God damnit that fucking sucks." | ||
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Soda-88
Croatia476 Posts
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hoemuffin
United States72 Posts
More importantly, embassies (no direct experience with the US since I'm American, but have had to deal with the Saudi) deal with TONS of people asking for visas, so they give you a time, and you show up or they tell you to go pound sand. If the guy you're dealing with is having a bad day, well, hopefully you know a guy. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On July 25 2013 20:57 Soda-88 wrote: I'd put the blame on their team management. They should've had this sorted out way before. On July 25 2013 20:43 ragz_gt wrote: Not only you need an appointment... You actually need the ticket booked in order to apply for visa (yes, if you get rejected you take a big lose on the ticket as well). Also, they need the official invitation from WCS to arrive, not that it helped them. So the timing goes like Win your group > buy ticket > get invitation > call embassy and get a random appointment time > stand inline for embassy (up to 6-8 hours in some cases) > hope you get a non-arsehole (coin flip) > profit! Not like alot were under their control. | ||
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
That's why Riot > Blizzard. | ||
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hoemuffin
United States72 Posts
On July 25 2013 20:56 Sbrubbles wrote: I don't know specifics, but generally the granting of Visas has absolutely nothing to do with your own government. If the issue was the Visa and not the Passport, the domestic government is probably not the culprit. Edit: ninjaed Since around 2011, you cannot travel abroad unless you have the visa already prearranged, even if they allow visas on arrival. So no US visa, and immigration won't let him get on the plane. | ||
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