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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 04:38:30
July 25 2013 10:06 GMT
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Jin Hui Cao, known by his ID Jim, has been disqualified from IEM Shanghai without dropping a single match in the open bracket. Having to work out Visa issues for his participation in the upcoming Ro16 of WCS America live from Santa Monica, California, Jim had to leave before the winners' bracket final that would have seen him into the group stages against Daisy.

IEM tried to accommodate Jim, playing the second open bracket and finishing the qualification for that before returning back to the first bracket. With the second open bracket finished, IEM gave Jim a time where he had to show up by or be disqualified, and the Chinese player could not meet the final deadline set by the officials. He was then officially disqualified from the tournament, leaving Daisy the winner of the top side of the bracket and MC -- who had lost to Daisy -- the winner of the losers' bracket.

Now the reason why Jim wasn't able to make his games is because of him trying to get his Visa situation resolved so he could travel to America to compete in the Ro16 of WCS America. Jim, who advanced to the Ro16 without a loss against Nestea and Major, was the top seed of Group A and one of the favorites to make a deep run in the tournament.

Also, it is being reported that Jim and Macsed -- another Chinese player who made it to the Ro16 of WCS America - have failed to get their US Visas in time for the Ro16 and might have to forfeit their spots. This would be the third time in two seasons where a player had to forfeit in the Ro16 of WCS America, Violet having to drop out last season.

In response to Jim's disqualification from the tournament, Jim's coach spoke out about the issues:

Regarding today's events.

We've started applying for Visa a month ago, because a lot of people are applying for Visa in the Shanghai area, we were only given two time slots. One is 7am on 24th, another is 3pm today. Because yesterday morning MacSed needed to play his WCS group matches, our only choice left is today's appointment. After we confirmed the time, we've been in constant arrangement with IEM and Chinajoy. Right after we've gotten the schedule from the IEM official Mickeal, we've been negociating with him about Jim's matches, and he agreed to move Jim's matches to start at 9am this morning, asking us to come early at 8am and we can start as soon as both players arrive. This way we would be able to make our visa appointment. Also regarding Blizzard showmatch, we've arraged for Top to play first day's matches. and TT-Esports final, we've also notified to officials. As for today, we arrived early at 8am as promised, but the game was delayed and didn't start until 10am, even this was after my consistant request to the officials. Finally when Jim reached the qualifier finals it's already 12pm. The ambassy takes at least an hour from the venue, with traffic even longer, and that it's difficult to get a taxi outside of the Chinajoy venue. To ensure we make it to the Visa appointment, we have no choice but talk with Blizzard official Jacky and together negociate with IEM official, we promised we'd finish around 4:30pm at the earliest, and if we really can't make it, the possibility of pushing the game back to tomorrow. By the time we finish at the ambassy at 4:50pm, we saw on the our cellphone that Jim has already been disqualified. And most unfortunately, because Blizzard's invitation letter problem, the Visa was denied.

Now there's only two things I can do:

1 .Regarding the Visa we already called Blizzard offcial, asking Blizzard to call US ambassy and explain our Visa situation, and possibly push back our scheduled match on Aug 6th by a day or two, to ensure we have enough time to get the Visa again.

2. I just got off the phone with IEM, because it's hard to hear in the phone, IEM has requested us to show up tomorrow morning at 8am to continue discuss this issue. On this, I pointed out thier problems very clearly, they said they disqualified Jim because they have to follow the scedule. But the truth is, we got delayed two hours this morning, if it weren't for the delay, we have plenty of time to finish the matches before heading to the Embassy. And what's more, Grubby and OZ was allowed to reschedule thier matches to tomorrow because of their own schedule conflicts.

Finally, if you support Jim and like seeing him play, please do cheer for him, he's had the worse luck today.


Update: It appears that Jim has been officially DQ'ed from IEM Shanghai, but will be given a seed into the next IEM tournament qualifer, IEM New York, if he can get his US Visa issues resolved.

Update 2: MacSed will compete in the Ro16 of WCS America, having acquired his US Visa. Jim is still trying and more news to come.
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
July 25 2013 10:04 GMT
#2
Visas are killing eSports.
TearsOfTheSun
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada995 Posts
July 25 2013 10:04 GMT
#3
I was reading the results and wondering why Jim lost just by W and not an actual score. Thanks for this
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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
July 25 2013 10:06 GMT
#4
Sad to hear. Hope they solve this issue in time next season.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 25 2013 10:06 GMT
#5
I feel so bad for Jim, the chinese players get so few tournaments and he basically gets DQ'd out of two in the space of a few hours. Unless something changed I doubt he would be able to get a visa for season 3 if he made it again.

Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
July 25 2013 10:06 GMT
#6
Wow, if he actually didn't get a visa that just straight up sucks for him. We need more Chinese players in the scene and this isn't helping.
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Kokosaft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany172 Posts
July 25 2013 10:06 GMT
#7
This is really unfortunate.
Cri du Chat
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany606 Posts
July 25 2013 10:06 GMT
#8
It would really really suck for Jim if he forfeited IEM just to then get his Visa denied.
Hope this is not the case.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 10:08:50
July 25 2013 10:08 GMT
#9
they should let jim play his match vs MC tomorrow

they've already let oz-grubby delay their game due to the venue closing before they could play

flexibility is better than rigid rule adherence in this specific case
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
July 25 2013 10:08 GMT
#10
Hopefully he gets his visa in time for WCS. If not, I know Rotterdam said he'll ask Blizzard for some help if it needs to come down to that.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 25 2013 10:09 GMT
#11
i dont get the VISA thing, can some1 explain to me? is this VISA same as the 1 in the credit card?
dignitasDreAm
Profile Joined December 2011
China43 Posts
July 25 2013 10:09 GMT
#12
On July 25 2013 19:08 Waxangel wrote:
they should let jim play his match vs MC tomorrow

they've already let oz-grubby delay their game due to the venue closing before they could play

flexibility is better than rigid rule adherence in this specific case

agreed
dardoz
Profile Joined June 2011
Ireland26 Posts
July 25 2013 10:10 GMT
#13
On July 25 2013 19:08 Waxangel wrote:
they should let jim play his match vs MC tomorrow

they've already let oz-grubby delay their game due to the venue closing before they could play

flexibility is better than rigid rule adherence in this specific case


Agreed
UT > Q > SC2??
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 10:11:53
July 25 2013 10:10 GMT
#14
On July 25 2013 19:09 justiceknight wrote:
i dont get the VISA thing, can some1 explain to me? is this VISA same as the 1 in the credit card?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_(document)

Visa, the name of the "credit card", comes from this definition of Visa.
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
July 25 2013 10:11 GMT
#15
this is really bad
I am not good with quotes
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 25 2013 10:11 GMT
#16
Gosh that sucks...
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grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
July 25 2013 10:11 GMT
#17
On July 25 2013 19:09 dignitasDreAm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 19:08 Waxangel wrote:
they should let jim play his match vs MC tomorrow

they've already let oz-grubby delay their game due to the venue closing before they could play

flexibility is better than rigid rule adherence in this specific case

agreed

The difference is, he is stalling two matches, not only one. I don't know how tight their schedule is, but that certainly is a difference. Also he was not present for the matches at all. I can imagine it might be difficult to get the needed VISAs, but do you need to that on the day of another tournament?
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
July 25 2013 10:12 GMT
#18
I feel so bad for the chinese players this really sucks
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33671 Posts
July 25 2013 10:12 GMT
#19
On July 25 2013 19:11 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 19:09 dignitasDreAm wrote:
On July 25 2013 19:08 Waxangel wrote:
they should let jim play his match vs MC tomorrow

they've already let oz-grubby delay their game due to the venue closing before they could play

flexibility is better than rigid rule adherence in this specific case

agreed

The difference is, he is stalling two matches, not only one. I don't know how tight their schedule is, but that certainly is a difference. Also he was not present for the matches at all. I can imagine it might be difficult to get the needed VISAs, but do you need to that on the day of another tournament?


no it's just him vs MC 1v1 for spot in groups, there's nothign after that
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
July 25 2013 10:12 GMT
#20
On July 25 2013 19:04 Cokefreak wrote:
Visas are killing eSports.


Perhaps that's why EU dudes and dudettes are so great at starcraft?
maru G5L pls
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