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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On July 30 2013 07:44 Nerski wrote: The WCS should really start thinking of requiring you have a visa if your not in that region to participate to end all these visa debacles. thats funny XD but i mean cerealsly, why couldnt it be amex and/or dc, isnt this discrimination??? | ||
digmouse
China6326 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On July 30 2013 18:23 digmouse wrote: Some news regarding their second visa application: the visa officials took away their invitation and passport and told them since they have denial records they must go through a deeper checking process. That's actually pretty good news, as they seem to got further than last time (they'd just said no otherwise). | ||
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Lorch
Germany3666 Posts
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Nerski
United States1095 Posts
On July 30 2013 09:55 Traceback wrote: You obviously don't understand visas very well. I'm not saying it'd be easy to walk in and say 'I might need to go to the USA I need a visa'. If however, blizzard required it, and did a little work themselves to talk to goverments about allowing visa's for these reasons it'd be possible. Riot has already proven this to be the case allowing pro LoL players to obtain visa's simply on the grounds of being one of their pro players. I'm not saying this is going to happen, blizzard hasn't shown any signs of doing this. Ideally though this would be the case. I suppose I could have been more specific in stating the comment I did. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On July 30 2013 18:23 digmouse wrote: Some news regarding their second visa application: the visa officials took away their invitation and passport and told them since they have denial records they must go through a deeper checking process. Is that a good or a bad thing? Either way, Blizzard should've done either: a) tell the Chinese scene to go f**k itself (at least this is honest) b) speak to the US government and help the chinese players to get a VISA (preferred solution by me) c) move WCS NA to another country of NA with less tight visa regulations (also nice) But the most ideal solution would be to give SEA + China an own WCS region. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 31 2013 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote: Is that a good or a bad thing? Either way, Blizzard should've done either: a) tell the Chinese scene to go f**k itself (at least this is honest) b) speak to the US government and help the chinese players to get a VISA (preferred solution by me) c) move WCS NA to another country of NA with less tight visa regulations (also nice) But the most ideal solution would be to give SEA + China an own WCS region. I don't think they are going to move an event to another country just because of two players. Blizzcon is happening in the US and there is nothing short of an earthquake that is gonig to change that. And it has been said may times before, the USCIS could give two shits about Blizzard and what they want. They may take the call, but at the end of the day the USCIS is going to do what they do and follow the laws that govern them and rules they have in place. And I wouldn't doubt that the USCIS is going to call Blizzard to confirm the invitation is valid and get more information. | ||
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Cattlecruiser
United States340 Posts
On July 31 2013 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote: Is that a good or a bad thing? Either way, Blizzard should've done either: a) tell the Chinese scene to go f**k itself (at least this is honest) b) speak to the US government and help the chinese players to get a VISA (preferred solution by me) c) move WCS NA to another country of NA with less tight visa regulations (also nice) But the most ideal solution would be to give SEA + China an own WCS region. I guess you never traveled out of your own hemisphere. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:07 Plansix wrote: I don't think they are going to move an event to another country just because of two players. Blizzcon is happening in the US and there is nothing short of an earthquake that is gonig to change that. And it has been said may times before, the USCIS could give two shits about Blizzard and what they want. They may take the call, but at the end of the day the USCIS is going to do what they do and follow the laws that govern them and rules they have in place. And I wouldn't doubt that the USCIS is going to call Blizzard to confirm the invitation is valid and get more information. I agree wholeheartedly. Well, I guess that only leaves the answer a) with the current system.  On July 31 2013 02:43 Cattlecruiser wrote: I guess you never traveled out of your own hemisphere. You're right sir, all my travels so far have been restricted to the northern hemisphere only (though that will finally change in the beginning of next year, can't wait for it!). | ||
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asongdotnet
United States1060 Posts
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larse
1611 Posts
NetEast (SC2 Chinese operator) announced that they are going to pay all the fees associated with VISA of all Chinese SC2 players from now on (including Jim and MacSed). No matter how many times players go to VISA, no matter it succeeds or fails, NetEast said that they are going to pay players all the fees. And they will work with Blizzard to provide any support for getting a VISA. Or players encounter any problems related to international events, NetEast said they are going to help out. This applies to all WCS related international events such as WCS, MLG, IEM, Dreamhack, GSL, OSL, etc. Jim and MacSed's coach said that they already spend more than 10k RMB ($1630) in fees associated with getting a US VISA for Jim and MacSed. Source: http://game.163.com/13/0730/09/9518OCBH00314QKL.html | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
#supportCNesports by cloaken We're doing everything we can to assist  Jim and MacSed with getting their visas. Blizzard staff has been manning phones around the clock, reaching out to contacts, and much more.At this point we're going to exhaust every avenue to get attention on this, including the twitter of the US embassy in Beijing. Feel free to RT and use the #supportCNesports hashtag. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On July 31 2013 01:31 Nerski wrote: I'm not saying it'd be easy to walk in and say 'I might need to go to the USA I need a visa'. If however, blizzard required it, and did a little work themselves to talk to goverments about allowing visa's for these reasons it'd be possible. Riot has already proven this to be the case allowing pro LoL players to obtain visa's simply on the grounds of being one of their pro players. I'm not saying this is going to happen, blizzard hasn't shown any signs of doing this. Ideally though this would be the case. I suppose I could have been more specific in stating the comment I did. Well, Riot is owned by Tencent (which is like the Google and FB of China). So that probably helps. | ||
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
Macsed got his Visa, Jim is still trying | ||
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
On August 01 2013 18:22 NovemberstOrm wrote: GUYS GOOD NEWS: Macsed got his Visa, Jim is still trying https://twitter.com/dignitasDreAm/status/362863217514520577 I feel that Jim needs his visa moreso than macsed... Macsed was able to win HKeSports and qualify for the finals. Jim forfeited his position at IEM Shanghai (more or less) to get his visa denied. On top of this, I feel as though the only results he's produced besides GM rank 1 on ladder would be his all-kill on EG at the Acer Teamstory Cup. He has job security but he needs more than that to tell himself he is a good competitor. Fuzer was GM Rank 1 on NA 6 months ago. Less than a week ago he retired. http://matchday.cc/player.php?id=236 | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 01 2013 20:34 Enders116 wrote: I feel that Jim needs his visa moreso than macsed... Macsed was able to win HKeSports and qualify for the finals. Jim forfeited his position at IEM Shanghai (more or less) to get his visa denied. On top of this, I feel as though the only results he's produced besides GM rank 1 on ladder would be his all-kill on EG at the Acer Teamstory Cup. He has job security but he needs more than that to tell himself he is a good competitor. Fuzer was GM Rank 1 on NA 6 months ago. Less than a week ago he retired. http://matchday.cc/player.php?id=236 Rank 1 GM on NA is completely different to Rank 1 GM on Korea. | ||
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
On August 02 2013 13:24 ZAiNs wrote: Rank 1 GM on NA is completely different to Rank 1 GM on Korea. Axslav/Axeltoss said that Jim was the first foreigner to get rank 1 GM in Korea for HOTS he was first (and only foreigner) to get there for sure, but what about WoL? I heard in WoL, HuK had 2 accounts in the top 5 of Korea GM, and also had an account on EU rank 1 that was worldwide most points but did HuK reach rank 1 korean GM in WoL? | ||
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