EPTOn July 27 2013 09:52 dacimvrl wrote:
wow, you couldn't be more blatantly false with your whole interpretation of the thing and the contract part........
like, you should maybe look up what makes a contract legal, you know, it might help your argument
and the other part is just plain stupid....... wow.. you amaze me
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On July 27 2013 02:10 Plansix wrote:
No, you are 100% wrong:
Here is a list of requirements needed to get the P1 visa Riot players have:
Supporting Documents
The Form I-129 must include the following documents:
A written consultation from an appropriate labor organization
A copy of the contract with a major U.S. sports league or team or a contract in an individual sport commensurate with international recognition in the sport, if such contracts are normally utilized in the sport
An explanation of the event and itinerary
Documentation of at least two of the following:
Evidence of having participated to a significant extent in a prior season with a major United States sports league
Evidence of having participated to a significant extent in international competition with a national team
Evidence of having participated to a significant extent in a prior season for a U.S. college or university in intercollegiate competition
A written statement from an official of a major U.S. sports league or an official of the governing body of the sport which details how you or your team is internationally recognized
A written statement from a member of the sports media or a recognized expert in the sport which details how you or your team is internationally recognized
Evidence that you or your team is ranked, if the sport has international rankings
Evidence that you or your team has received a significant honor or award in the sport
You will notice the part where it says "a copy of a contract" is a requirement to get the Visa. Contracts require consideration, or payment, to be valid. This means the players MUST be paid by the major US sports league to receive the Visa. People have already gone over this several times in this thread.
That isn't Blizzard's fault. I doubt they wrote the invitation letter to meet the specific requirements for every player to get a visa in every country. There could be any number of problems that Blizzard would not be aware of, including it not being dated or being to vague.
On July 27 2013 02:04 dacimvrl wrote:
I'm sorry, this is obviously and completely wrong lol.. 1. you don't need to pay all the players' salaries, and 2, you don't need to have the players in WCS AM to live in the US permanently lol
On July 26 2013 22:16 Fischbacher wrote:
I'm getting tired of posting this, but here goes nothing: the visa Riot is getting for LoL players is a work visa that allows athletes to work (play) for an American-based organization. It works for Riot since all the LCS teams are essentially employed by Riot and stay in the US for months at a time.
This kind of visa would only work for Blizzard if 1. they wanted to start paying all the player's salaries and 2. wanted all the players in WCS AM to live in the US permanently. It has nothing to do with Jim not being able to get a visa.
On July 26 2013 21:23 dacimvrl wrote:
well, Riot has been pretty successful with pushing VISA for LoL players..
Yes, Blizzard, I am staring at you!
On July 26 2013 21:19 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
I know it would never happen and to be honest this problem is not just a US thing, but it seems like a pretty good reason to host wcs America elsewhere.
I know it would never happen and to be honest this problem is not just a US thing, but it seems like a pretty good reason to host wcs America elsewhere.
well, Riot has been pretty successful with pushing VISA for LoL players..
Yes, Blizzard, I am staring at you!
I'm getting tired of posting this, but here goes nothing: the visa Riot is getting for LoL players is a work visa that allows athletes to work (play) for an American-based organization. It works for Riot since all the LCS teams are essentially employed by Riot and stay in the US for months at a time.
This kind of visa would only work for Blizzard if 1. they wanted to start paying all the player's salaries and 2. wanted all the players in WCS AM to live in the US permanently. It has nothing to do with Jim not being able to get a visa.
I'm sorry, this is obviously and completely wrong lol.. 1. you don't need to pay all the players' salaries, and 2, you don't need to have the players in WCS AM to live in the US permanently lol
No, you are 100% wrong:
Here is a list of requirements needed to get the P1 visa Riot players have:
Supporting Documents
The Form I-129 must include the following documents:
A written consultation from an appropriate labor organization
A copy of the contract with a major U.S. sports league or team or a contract in an individual sport commensurate with international recognition in the sport, if such contracts are normally utilized in the sport
An explanation of the event and itinerary
Documentation of at least two of the following:
Evidence of having participated to a significant extent in a prior season with a major United States sports league
Evidence of having participated to a significant extent in international competition with a national team
Evidence of having participated to a significant extent in a prior season for a U.S. college or university in intercollegiate competition
A written statement from an official of a major U.S. sports league or an official of the governing body of the sport which details how you or your team is internationally recognized
A written statement from a member of the sports media or a recognized expert in the sport which details how you or your team is internationally recognized
Evidence that you or your team is ranked, if the sport has international rankings
Evidence that you or your team has received a significant honor or award in the sport
You will notice the part where it says "a copy of a contract" is a requirement to get the Visa. Contracts require consideration, or payment, to be valid. This means the players MUST be paid by the major US sports league to receive the Visa. People have already gone over this several times in this thread.
On July 27 2013 01:59 dacimvrl wrote:
straight from the article:
"And most unfortunately, because Blizzard's invitation letter problem, the Visa was denied. "
"And most unfortunately, because Blizzard's invitation letter problem, the Visa was denied. "
"And most unfortunately, because Blizzard's invitation letter problem, the Visa was denied. "
And how is it not possible for Blizzard to do the same? Riot sponsors every team, so why can't Blizzard sponsor the professional teams as well?
On July 26 2013 21:43 Plansix wrote:
There are like 15 pages in this thread explaining why that is not possible for Blizzard unless they want to employ every player in SC2. And there was nothing wrong with the invitation from Blizzard. Blizzard had NOTHING to do with this.
On July 26 2013 21:23 dacimvrl wrote:
well, Riot has been pretty successful with pushing VISA for LoL players..
Yes, Blizzard, I am staring at you!
On July 26 2013 21:19 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
I know it would never happen and to be honest this problem is not just a US thing, but it seems like a pretty good reason to host wcs America elsewhere.
I know it would never happen and to be honest this problem is not just a US thing, but it seems like a pretty good reason to host wcs America elsewhere.
well, Riot has been pretty successful with pushing VISA for LoL players..
Yes, Blizzard, I am staring at you!
There are like 15 pages in this thread explaining why that is not possible for Blizzard unless they want to employ every player in SC2. And there was nothing wrong with the invitation from Blizzard. Blizzard had NOTHING to do with this.
straight from the article:
"And most unfortunately, because Blizzard's invitation letter problem, the Visa was denied. "
"And most unfortunately, because Blizzard's invitation letter problem, the Visa was denied. "
"And most unfortunately, because Blizzard's invitation letter problem, the Visa was denied. "
And how is it not possible for Blizzard to do the same? Riot sponsors every team, so why can't Blizzard sponsor the professional teams as well?
That isn't Blizzard's fault. I doubt they wrote the invitation letter to meet the specific requirements for every player to get a visa in every country. There could be any number of problems that Blizzard would not be aware of, including it not being dated or being to vague.
wow, you couldn't be more blatantly false with your whole interpretation of the thing and the contract part........
like, you should maybe look up what makes a contract legal, you know, it might help your argument
and the other part is just plain stupid....... wow.. you amaze me
That is the legal definition of a contract. When one agrees to provide a service or service(playing starcraft) for consideration(being paid). That is not my interpretation at all, it is simply fact.
