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redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
July 25 2013 12:21 GMT
#141
On July 25 2013 21:14 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 21:12 nimdil wrote:
On July 25 2013 19:24 Ketch wrote:
What causes these Visa problems anyway... that's the worst part of it imho. Is it US government regulations? Then we should move WCS Americas to Mexico or something! :p

I can't point any country that can compare to US in terms of how hard it is to get Visa to get into the country? Every now and then there is a problem with someone obtaining a Visa for US tournament - I recall there was a problem with one of the Ukrainians (Kas, Strelok, DIMAGA?), viOLet, now Jim and that's probably not everything. Maybe US is not good for global esports.


I think Indian visa is just as bad if not worse.

Even for Pakistanis Indian visa is trivial. While I only had Pakistani citizenship I traveled to many countries, and no where did I meet the class of racist assholes that dominate uscis. Even with a citizenship, I am constantly harassed at cbp. In the last year while travelling for a family emergency, I messed not one but two connecting flights because of the red room interrogation that I thought was jut for foreigners.

No where in the world have I felt more like a cockroach than the uscis offices and at CBP.
matsushi
Profile Joined December 2010
Philippines65 Posts
July 25 2013 12:25 GMT
#142
This is retarded
Driving this road down to paradise, letting the sunlight into my eyes
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
July 25 2013 12:30 GMT
#143
On July 25 2013 19:12 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 19:04 Cokefreak wrote:
Visas are killing eSports.


Perhaps that's why EU dudes and dudettes are so great at starcraft?


I was just thinking how glad I am for living in Europe...
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
July 25 2013 12:36 GMT
#144
Bullshit
Jaedong <3
eonDE
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada371 Posts
July 25 2013 12:43 GMT
#145
Move WCS AM to Canada! *genius at work*
Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
July 25 2013 12:51 GMT
#146
Two "extraordinary" circumstances, one deemed valid and the other not.

Sounds like someone making arbitrary decisions to me.

Is Grubby's situation covered in IEM rules?
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 12:53:20
July 25 2013 12:52 GMT
#147
Some excerpt of iG coach Edison's statement (sorry in a hurry to explain, didn't check if there were any translations already) :
Their visa agency arranged two possible interview times: 9am 24th and 2pm 25th which is today, MacSed has his WCS matches to play on 24th so they can only go today. So they talked with ESL to have Jim's Open Bracket matches playing at 9am in the morning so they can finish it early but his matches were delayed for two hours, when he went to winner's finals it's already 12pm so he have to go, ESL gave them a deadline of 4pm, if he can return by that time they can delay his matches till then but they did not make it in time, and their visas didn't work out.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Torvaltz
Profile Joined August 2012
United States188 Posts
July 25 2013 12:54 GMT
#148
This is total bullshit.
melee is sick
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
July 25 2013 12:58 GMT
#149
Sad to hear this
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
July 25 2013 13:01 GMT
#150
poor jim.. we was doing really good lately.. sad that these barriers are killing e-sport
Maru | Life | herO
vidium
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania222 Posts
July 25 2013 13:03 GMT
#151
Well blizz should push some money towards lobby in the US to acknowledge SC2 as an esport same as LoL, but knowing them we would get the trademark "Soon" answer.
You ever notice how no one returns to the barracks?
Stitch
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong134 Posts
July 25 2013 13:05 GMT
#152
Damn just accept SC2 players as professional athletes... T_T
Head Production Director of NDTV - No Dice Gaming - Twitter: @StitchHK
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
July 25 2013 13:06 GMT
#153
This kind of stuff makes me happy to be swiss... It really sucks for both of them.
It's good to be back
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#154
On July 25 2013 22:03 vidium wrote:
Well blizz should push some money towards lobby in the US to acknowledge SC2 as an esport same as LoL, but knowing them we would get the trademark "Soon" answer.

That is a super hard process to get done and it costs a lot. Also, I think it is easier for LoL, since Riot controls the entire LCS, who enteres and provides them with salary. Still, Blizzard should try to at least reach out to the US and find out what they would need to do help player like Jim get Visa's.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 13:09:48
July 25 2013 13:09 GMT
#155
On July 25 2013 22:06 Lazzi wrote:
This kind of stuff makes me happy to be swiss... It really sucks for both of them.


Yeah We all know of Switzerland and their love for foreigners

On topic, I read moving WCS NA to canada, would be the smartest decision ever!
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
iLevitate
Profile Joined April 2012
United States225 Posts
July 25 2013 13:11 GMT
#156
wcs china
You lose, You learn
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
July 25 2013 13:18 GMT
#157
I don't understand the hate.. Visas aren't given out overnight, especially in China.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 25 2013 13:20 GMT
#158
On July 25 2013 22:18 geokilla wrote:
I don't understand the hate.. Visas aren't given out overnight, especially in China.

Its not hate, people are just upset because they wanted Jim to be able to play. They applied for the Visa awhile ago, but only got an appointment recently.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
July 25 2013 13:33 GMT
#159
Disappointing.
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 13:42:20
July 25 2013 13:36 GMT
#160
On July 25 2013 19:08 TAMinator wrote:
Hopefully he gets his visa in time for WCS. If not, I know Rotterdam said he'll ask Blizzard for some help if it needs to come down to that.


Not possible, visa interview to US for Chinese usually needs a long time to be able to get an appointment, students usually arrange visa interview at least couple months in advance. And a rejection is very hard to reverse to an approval, some people can interview 3 to 4 times and never get an approval.

A company can't do much, this is politics and diplomatic procedure between US and China, and his reason to US to attend an e-sports tournament is not too strong also, even students with scholarship got denied sometimes. Even if Blizzard put 100k dollars into Jim's Bank account in China, and he can get an appointment in such a short time, probably still a rejection.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
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