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On July 25 2013 21:14 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 21:12 nimdil wrote:On July 25 2013 19:24 Ketch wrote:
What causes these Visa problems anyway... that's the worst part of it imho. Is it US government regulations? Then we should move WCS Americas to Mexico or something! :p I can't point any country that can compare to US in terms of how hard it is to get Visa to get into the country? Every now and then there is a problem with someone obtaining a Visa for US tournament - I recall there was a problem with one of the Ukrainians (Kas, Strelok, DIMAGA?), viOLet, now Jim and that's probably not everything. Maybe US is not good for global esports. I think Indian visa is just as bad if not worse.
Even for Pakistanis Indian visa is trivial. While I only had Pakistani citizenship I traveled to many countries, and no where did I meet the class of racist assholes that dominate uscis. Even with a citizenship, I am constantly harassed at cbp. In the last year while travelling for a family emergency, I messed not one but two connecting flights because of the red room interrogation that I thought was jut for foreigners.
No where in the world have I felt more like a cockroach than the uscis offices and at CBP.
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On July 25 2013 19:12 neptunusfisk wrote:Perhaps that's why EU dudes and dudettes are so great at starcraft?
I was just thinking how glad I am for living in Europe...
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Move WCS AM to Canada! *genius at work*
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Two "extraordinary" circumstances, one deemed valid and the other not.
Sounds like someone making arbitrary decisions to me.
Is Grubby's situation covered in IEM rules?
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Some excerpt of iG coach Edison's statement (sorry in a hurry to explain, didn't check if there were any translations already) :
Their visa agency arranged two possible interview times: 9am 24th and 2pm 25th which is today, MacSed has his WCS matches to play on 24th so they can only go today. So they talked with ESL to have Jim's Open Bracket matches playing at 9am in the morning so they can finish it early but his matches were delayed for two hours, when he went to winner's finals it's already 12pm so he have to go, ESL gave them a deadline of 4pm, if he can return by that time they can delay his matches till then but they did not make it in time, and their visas didn't work out.
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Sad to hear this 
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poor jim.. we was doing really good lately.. sad that these barriers are killing e-sport
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Well blizz should push some money towards lobby in the US to acknowledge SC2 as an esport same as LoL, but knowing them we would get the trademark "Soon" answer.
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Damn just accept SC2 players as professional athletes... T_T
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This kind of stuff makes me happy to be swiss... It really sucks for both of them.
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On July 25 2013 22:03 vidium wrote:
Well blizz should push some money towards lobby in the US to acknowledge SC2 as an esport same as LoL, but knowing them we would get the trademark "Soon" answer.
That is a super hard process to get done and it costs a lot. Also, I think it is easier for LoL, since Riot controls the entire LCS, who enteres and provides them with salary. Still, Blizzard should try to at least reach out to the US and find out what they would need to do help player like Jim get Visa's.
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On July 25 2013 22:06 Lazzi wrote:
This kind of stuff makes me happy to be swiss... It really sucks for both of them.
Yeah We all know of Switzerland and their love for foreigners 
On topic, I read moving WCS NA to canada, would be the smartest decision ever!
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wcs china
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I don't understand the hate.. Visas aren't given out overnight, especially in China.
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On July 25 2013 22:18 geokilla wrote:
I don't understand the hate.. Visas aren't given out overnight, especially in China.
Its not hate, people are just upset because they wanted Jim to be able to play. They applied for the Visa awhile ago, but only got an appointment recently.
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On July 25 2013 19:08 TAMinator wrote:
Hopefully he gets his visa in time for WCS. If not, I know Rotterdam said he'll ask Blizzard for some help if it needs to come down to that.
Not possible, visa interview to US for Chinese usually needs a long time to be able to get an appointment, students usually arrange visa interview at least couple months in advance. And a rejection is very hard to reverse to an approval, some people can interview 3 to 4 times and never get an approval.
A company can't do much, this is politics and diplomatic procedure between US and China, and his reason to US to attend an e-sports tournament is not too strong also, even students with scholarship got denied sometimes. Even if Blizzard put 100k dollars into Jim's Bank account in China, and he can get an appointment in such a short time, probably still a rejection.
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EPT
