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On July 25 2013 22:20 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 22:18 geokilla wrote:
I don't understand the hate.. Visas aren't given out overnight, especially in China. Its not hate, people are just upset because they wanted Jim to be able to play. They applied for the Visa awhile ago, but only got an appointment recently.
Most European who never traveled outside Eurozone tends to think visa as something you just go pick up during lunch break (which I did multiple times while living in Finland).
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So his got DQ'd while waiting for his Visa application which got denied anyway? Ouch, bad luck! Aint easy being Chinese 
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On July 25 2013 22:36 edgeOut wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 19:08 TAMinator wrote:
Hopefully he gets his visa in time for WCS. If not, I know Rotterdam said he'll ask Blizzard for some help if it needs to come down to that. Not possible, visa interview to US for Chinese usually needs a long time to be able to get an appointment, students usually arrange visa interview at least couple months in advance. And a rejection is very hard to reverse to an approve, some people can interview 3 to 4 times and never get an approve. A company can't do much, this is politics and diplomatic procedure between US and China, and his reason to US to attend an e-sports tournament is not too strong also, even students with scholarship got denied sometimes.
Ouch, that is really rough if it turns out that way. I know Blizzard and other companies have been able to clear up Visa issues in the past, but they were never with China and mostly countries the US is on good terms with.
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On July 25 2013 22:36 edgeOut wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 19:08 TAMinator wrote:
Hopefully he gets his visa in time for WCS. If not, I know Rotterdam said he'll ask Blizzard for some help if it needs to come down to that. Not possible, visa interview to US for Chinese usually needs a long time to be able to get an appointment, students usually arrange visa interview at least couple months in advance. And a rejection is very hard to reverse to an approve, some people can interview 3 to 4 times and never get an approve. A company can't do much, this is politics and diplomatic procedure between US and China, and his reason to US to attend an e-sports tournament is not too strong also, even students with scholarship got denied sometimes.
From my experience, the easiest method to rejection overturned is to have a congressman or a senator make a phone call. Nearly all cases I know that took less than 6 months were done that way. Not that it's easy by any means but just maybe Blizz can get something done. Is there any esports loving congressman out there?
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I dont get it, all the dota 2 players from China get us visa like no problem, why it is so hard for a sc2 player??
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So Grubbys match can get delay but not Jims? nice
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sc2 progamer: yes id like to get a visa to travel to the USA to play starcraft 2.
US government: sounds sketchy. visa denied for possible terrorism threat
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On July 25 2013 22:44 dantawangzi wrote:
I dont get it, all the dota 2 players from China get us visa like no problem, why it is so hard for a sc2 player??
It's totally random, 75% of success depends on what kind of mood the interview officer was in.
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On July 25 2013 22:09 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 22:06 Lazzi wrote:
This kind of stuff makes me happy to be swiss... It really sucks for both of them. Yeah We all know of Switzerland and their love for foreigners  On topic, I read moving WCS NA to canada, would be the smartest decision ever!
Yeah we hate all the foreigners
On topic, is there any possibility left to get an visa on time or is there only one chance you can get?
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On July 25 2013 22:45 Santi wrote:
So Grubbys match can get delay but not Jims? nice
Did you even pretend to read the OP ?
Jim's match was delayed as much as possible.
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Didn't I just read that the US now recognizes Esports as a valid reason to give visas (thanks to some lobbying by LoL apparently).
Does that not also apply to SC2 players?
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On July 25 2013 22:41 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 22:36 edgeOut wrote:On July 25 2013 19:08 TAMinator wrote:
Hopefully he gets his visa in time for WCS. If not, I know Rotterdam said he'll ask Blizzard for some help if it needs to come down to that. Not possible, visa interview to US for Chinese usually needs a long time to be able to get an appointment, students usually arrange visa interview at least couple months in advance. And a rejection is very hard to reverse to an approve, some people can interview 3 to 4 times and never get an approve. A company can't do much, this is politics and diplomatic procedure between US and China, and his reason to US to attend an e-sports tournament is not too strong also, even students with scholarship got denied sometimes. From my experience, the easiest method to rejection overturned is to have a congressman or a senator make a phone call. Nearly all cases I know that took less than 6 months were done that way. Not that it's easy by any means but just maybe Blizz can get something done. Is there any esports loving congressman out there?
Not sure what Blizzard must do, but it is what they always say when players can't come to their events. I cannot remember an instance where they were succesful.
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I was wondering what this was all about. Damn Visas once again ruining everything T_T
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Can Blizzard please lobby the crap out of legislation?
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Work visas are a pain in the ass, I had to get one once when I moved to South Africa and their home affairs office gave me the runaround for almost three months. Lesson learned: do that shit way ahead of time or you'll regret it.
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On July 25 2013 22:50 Gekk02 wrote:
On topic, is there any possibility left to get an visa on time or is there only one chance you can get?
For US Visas you got the possibility to appeal, but since it was chinese administration which denied the visa apparently (at least how I understand this thread), it is not gonna be that easy.
I am really wondering how E-Sport teams like iG do not have success with applying for visas. Other "athletes" (plus trainers etc.) from china travel the world.
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On July 25 2013 19:50 Alopex wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 19:44 Waxangel wrote:On July 25 2013 19:38 mengsk83 wrote:On July 25 2013 19:33 Waxangel wrote:On July 25 2013 19:32 grs wrote:On July 25 2013 19:30 Waxangel wrote:On July 25 2013 19:24 grs wrote:On July 25 2013 19:12 Waxangel wrote:On July 25 2013 19:11 grs wrote:On July 25 2013 19:09 dignitasDreAm wrote:
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agreed The difference is, he is stalling two matches, not only one. I don't know how tight their schedule is, but that certainly is a difference. Also he was not present for the matches at all. I can imagine it might be difficult to get the needed VISAs, but do you need to that on the day of another tournament? no it's just him vs MC 1v1 for spot in groups, there's nothign after that As I see the bracket, it is him vs Daisy and the loser vs MC. It would be not right just to have him play the last match. just say daisy gets the defwin but have the loser final be played That would be unreasonable. Why should Daisy get the freeride and MC not? Also again: Why does he just leave the venue during a tournament? because of extraordinary circumstances rules don't exist for the sake of having rules, they exist to better the tournament extraordinary circumstances he himself (or his team) is/are responsible for. Why wasnt this Visa issue sorted out before taking part in this tournament? because meetings are at the pleasure of the embassy, not yours This is exactly right, was told by iG.Edison(MacSed/Jim's team coach) that they waited outside the embassy standing for 2 hours in 40 degrees heat and another hour inside the embassy, just to get their visas denied after visa officer looked at their WCS invitation briefly.
Same story here.
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Always sucks when players have issues due to visas, and it seems to happen quite a bit.
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On July 25 2013 22:55 Voyage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 22:50 Gekk02 wrote:
On topic, is there any possibility left to get an visa on time or is there only one chance you can get? For US Visas you got the possibility to appeal, but since it was chinese administration which denied the visa apparently (at least how I understand this thread), it is not gonna be that easy. I am really wondering how E-Sport teams like iG do not have success with applying for visas. Other "athletes" (plus trainers etc.) from china travel the world.
No it was not. It was American embassy.
Chinese can't deny Visa to other countries >.<
I don't get where people get the idea that it's Chinese administration that rejected them as multiple people said that, but nothing in the OP would suggest so.
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Bad strike of luck. I wish that visa issues wouldn't stop players from participating when they clearly have a lot of potential.
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