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I don't really care that its the same weekend as some big MOBA tournament. For me personally MOBA is fun to play, but super boring to watch.
I worry about if twitch can handle this though. The past 6 weeks twitch hasn't been great in EU.
What pisses me off is that it will now be completely impossible to watch all 3 live. I guess I will have to pass on the NA one since it has the worst time slot for us in EU.
For 2014, maybe there should only be 3 seasons, seing as fitting in 3 from HotS launch till November has been very tight.
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Come on, get your dual screen setup already!!! :ppp Im not at all suprised by what Blizzard just did, its obvious they havent planned the whole WCS thing correctly this year. There are so many mistakes already. Its sad I wont be able to watch EU,KR and NA, but Ive given up on Blizzard a long time ago.
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On July 23 2013 08:01 dcsoda wrote: I'm sorry but is this Dota tournament not going to have any downtime? Nothing between games? You can't have two windows open? It's not even the S2 grand finals or whatever it's just the region ones. I don't get this amount of negative reaction.
if last year is any reference, there wont be any downtime at all. the international was the best run tournament in the history of western esport and i doubt valve will suddenly break down riot-style and fuck everything up. ~5 minutes between games and that was it.
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On July 23 2013 16:36 rename wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 16:20 Sissors wrote:On July 23 2013 16:08 Taku wrote: It's more just Blizzard showing how amateur they are by forcing the schedule conflict like this. Considering TI3 is a once a year thing and that its date has been known WELL in advance, this just feels like a crazy SO forcing you to choose sides. Their handling of this sends all the wrong messages about how well played any faith in them would be. So who should they have screwed over instead? DH, IEM or ROG? Complaining it collides with something is easy, everyone can do it, as clearly demonstrated by this topic. Making a schedule where everyone is happy is alot harder. Until today I never heard about this event (believing this topic I should pretty much end my own misery, considering I am 'deprived of a sense of e-sports everyone should have'. Well good to know. I see it is a US based event. With some luck that means the overlap with WCS EU is minimal. What remains is WCS AM. So the RO16 onwards of the smallest region for one season collides with a major event. Is that handy? Of course not? Could that have been planned better? Pretty sure yes. But the majority of the posters here make you believe the mayas were right after all and the end of the world as we know it is coming, all because of two tournaments colliding. Well actually 16-18 august weekend seems to have absolutely nothing going on so i actually have no idea why they did not have EU/AM finals at that week. Studio availability? I obviously don't know their schedule, but those studios aren't exclusively reserved for SC2.
On July 23 2013 16:31 Taku wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 16:20 Sissors wrote:On July 23 2013 16:08 Taku wrote: It's more just Blizzard showing how amateur they are by forcing the schedule conflict like this. Considering TI3 is a once a year thing and that its date has been known WELL in advance, this just feels like a crazy SO forcing you to choose sides. Their handling of this sends all the wrong messages about how well played any faith in them would be. So who should they have screwed over instead? DH, IEM or ROG? Complaining it collides with something is easy, everyone can do it, as clearly demonstrated by this topic. Making a schedule where everyone is happy is alot harder. Until today I never heard about this event (believing this topic I should pretty much end my own misery, considering I am 'deprived of a sense of e-sports everyone should have'. Well good to know. I see it is a US based event. With some luck that means the overlap with WCS EU is minimal. What remains is WCS AM. So the RO16 onwards of the smallest region for one season collides with a major event. Is that handy? Of course not? Could that have been planned better? Pretty sure yes. But the majority of the posters here make you believe the mayas were right after all and the end of the world as we know it is coming, all because of two tournaments colliding. That's the thing though, it isn't just a US-based event. Is it played in the US? Yes? So it is US-based. I assume it uses pretty normal times? (So not games at 0300 local), then with some luck the overlap with WCS EU shouldn't be too major.
But looking at the rest of your post + sig you are just here to troll.
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Blizz once again showing how bad they are at running their esports scene.
Unintentional ? Please, there's this thing called keeping contact with other organizers so there aren't such huge fails.
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On July 23 2013 16:58 hfglgg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 08:01 dcsoda wrote: I'm sorry but is this Dota tournament not going to have any downtime? Nothing between games? You can't have two windows open? It's not even the S2 grand finals or whatever it's just the region ones. I don't get this amount of negative reaction. if last year is any reference, there wont be any downtime at all. the international was the best run tournament in the history of western esport and i doubt valve will suddenly break down riot-style and fuck everything up. ~5 minutes between games and that was it.
I know it was last year but it wasn't just five minutes between games lol, there wasn't a lot of stream downtime if any at all, always entertained by 2GD &co. but there were fairly long breaks between games at times
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On July 23 2013 16:36 rename wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 16:20 Sissors wrote:On July 23 2013 16:08 Taku wrote: It's more just Blizzard showing how amateur they are by forcing the schedule conflict like this. Considering TI3 is a once a year thing and that its date has been known WELL in advance, this just feels like a crazy SO forcing you to choose sides. Their handling of this sends all the wrong messages about how well played any faith in them would be. So who should they have screwed over instead? DH, IEM or ROG? Complaining it collides with something is easy, everyone can do it, as clearly demonstrated by this topic. Making a schedule where everyone is happy is alot harder. Until today I never heard about this event (believing this topic I should pretty much end my own misery, considering I am 'deprived of a sense of e-sports everyone should have'. Well good to know. I see it is a US based event. With some luck that means the overlap with WCS EU is minimal. What remains is WCS AM. So the RO16 onwards of the smallest region for one season collides with a major event. Is that handy? Of course not? Could that have been planned better? Pretty sure yes. But the majority of the posters here make you believe the mayas were right after all and the end of the world as we know it is coming, all because of two tournaments colliding. Well actually 16-18 august weekend seems to have absolutely nothing going on so i actually have no idea why they did not have EU/AM finals at that week. Because Gamescom starts on 22. Aug. which is 4 days later. To short of a distance.
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Looks like Blizzard wants to minimize the Viewers for each Event....srsly, what happened there?
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Wow, I'm kinda shocked by this decision...
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Well, there goes my already slim chances of watching the WCS finals. TI3 is like a holy grail of esports, with the hype and anticipation, currently even and exciting scene, 2.6 million prize pool.
Putting your quad-annual (word?) finals up against that just shows that Blizz doesn't care. Well, that and the marathon idea.
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I actually like this in a selfish kind of way IF Twitch can handle it, as I can just dedicate the whole weekend to watching non-stop games and always have the ability to switch between events during matchups I don't care about. It's preferable than having to spend two separate weekends watching individual events.
However, it's far from optimal for either organizer as well as people who want to catch 100% of each event. And if the streaming service fails to withstand the overload, it's going to be a disaster for everybody.
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On July 23 2013 18:01 Talin wrote: And if the streaming service fails to withstand the overload, it's going to be a disaster for everybody.
It was my understanding that this hypothetical situation would only be disastrous for those relying solely on Twitch for their broadcast (i.e. Blizzard/SC2).
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TI2 made me switch 100% from watching BW/SC2 last year and I regret nothing seeing what happened with SC2 and blizzard in general.
Sucks for every SC2 spectator getting fucked if you follow both SC2 and Dota2 and not to mention the 99.99% twitch failure thats bound to happen. At least Dota2 has DotaTV and SC2 has only Twitch to fall back to.
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Dota 2 is also being streamed on Youtube.
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What is this Dota and International thingy your are talking about...oh nevermind...i googled it.
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On July 23 2013 18:04 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 18:01 Talin wrote: And if the streaming service fails to withstand the overload, it's going to be a disaster for everybody. It was my understanding that this hypothetical situation would only be disastrous for those relying solely on Twitch for their broadcast (i.e. Blizzard/SC2).
For the most part yeah, but I think it would also catch a big chunk of the Dota 2 audience. Such as those who would watch TI3 on devices that can't really run the game client, or casual/new/curious viewers that simply don't know that watching in-client is even possible or don't want to bother installing and fiddling with it.
The core Dota 2 audience is going to be perfectly fine obviously.
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I think they just made it on the weekend of the international because then we are mad about that and not about they make all 3 finals at the same time.
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