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I never laddered much in 1v1 but I'm confident I could go to master really quickly. Waiting an entire season to get the promotion seems a bit boring.
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
I never laddered much in 1v1 but I'm confident I could go to master really quickly. Waiting an entire season to get the promotion seems a bit boring. | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
This change doesn't change anything at all, so nothing to bitch about. | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
On June 04 2013 07:51 aksfjh wrote: This is already a problem with "1 game per season," so this won't negatively impact them. If anything, it will give an extra margin so they feel like they can play more games and keep their league. At worst, things stay the same, but at best, this will increase ladder activity. There's no guarantee that it will increase ladder activity, only speculation and hope. | ||
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On June 04 2013 07:39 figq wrote: Meh. They should just get rid of leagues and only use MMR for all anyway. This just makes leagues even further pointless and MMR even more important. I think a lot of people do care about leagues. Especially lower level players. My friends are super excited when they get bumped from silver to gold and moving higher motivates them a lot. | ||
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sva
United States747 Posts
On June 04 2013 07:39 dUTtrOACh wrote: I think it's the other way around. They feel that people who play only their placement game deserve to steadily decrease in rank. At least, that's the way I feel. Demotions should happen, and they should happen regardless of whether or not you play. That doesn't really happen at masters level though, I only play 30-50 games a season usually (do to time constraints) and I always get placed in diamond after my placements then hit masters around game 20-25 and then when I don't really play all season i'm still in masters until the new season. I don't really see the difference unless you are losing a lot. I also don't think it matters if people get demoted or not, if you get masters once you can always get it again. And why can't people just play their game and quit worrying about other peoples ranks or progess. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
So no demotion anxiety is not gone, just concentrated into one game. | ||
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FakeDouble
Australia676 Posts
On June 04 2013 07:40 Nicarras wrote: Isn't this just going to stop people from tanking games to end up in Bronze and then slaughter people leveling up the ladder? People can still do it, but they just can't do it secretly anymore, as in the loading screen will show masters vs bronze, and it will be up to the bronze leaguer to leave the game if he doesn't want to deal with a masters 'smurf'. Or people can still do it, only it takes a bit of effort to make sure that your mmr is so low at the end of the season that when you do placement, you place into bronze the next season, and make sure that you leave a lot of games if you accidentally get promoted to e.g. silver, so that your mmr stays in the bronze-silver range. Only difference is that now the league icon is less of an indicator of skill/improvement than it ever was, and more of a shiny feel good badge. If they're going to use this system there should be an option to see your own true MMR. But make it so that you can't see other people's MMR, so that people don't get anxiety or what not. Only way to gauge if someone's MMR is higher or lower than yours is based on the scorescreen +/- points afterwards. This way people who don't really care can just have fun, and people who are serious about improving can have a more objective measure. But this horse has been flogged to death before... | ||
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
On June 04 2013 07:55 FakeDouble wrote: People can still do it, but they just can't do it secretly anymore, as in the loading screen will show masters vs bronze, and it will be up to the bronze leaguer to leave the game if he doesn't want to deal with a masters 'smurf'. Or people can still do it, only it takes a bit of effort to make sure that your mmr is so low at the end of the season that when you do placement, you place into bronze the next season, and make sure that you leave a lot of games if you accidentally get promoted to e.g. silver, so that your mmr stays in the bronze-silver range. Only difference is that now the league icon is less of an indicator of skill/improvement than it ever was, and more of a shiny feel good badge. If they're going to use this system there should be an option to see your own true MMR. But make it so that you can't see other people's MMR, so that people don't get anxiety or what not. Only way to gauge if someone's MMR is higher or lower than yours is based on the scorescreen +/- points afterwards. This way people who don't really care can just have fun, and people who are serious about improving can have a more objective measure. But this horse has been flogged to death before... Step 1: Tank matches to bronze Step 2: Leave league and play one placement See how I just blew through your plan there?  | ||
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Sad[Panda]
United States458 Posts
On June 04 2013 07:51 ZenithM wrote: Not really happy about this I never laddered much in 1v1 but I'm confident I could go to master really quickly. Waiting an entire season to get the promotion seems a bit boring. you can still get promotions mid season, its only demotions that wont happen. essentially you can go up not down | ||
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TJ31
630 Posts
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reikai
United States359 Posts
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On June 04 2013 07:54 dUTtrOACh wrote: There's no guarantee that it will increase ladder activity, only speculation and hope. Indeed, but it's better than nothing. I like to see this action from Blizzard, small tweaks to experiment with game/ladder/competitive psychology. | ||
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Luppy1
Singapore177 Posts
This will probably reduce some of the ladder anxiety and encourage people to play and enjoy the game more. | ||
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mechengineer123
Ukraine711 Posts
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EnderSword
Canada669 Posts
There's no logical reason people would do this, but i bet they do. I'm assuming this will make it once again even harder for MMR tracker to find good games to rate you. | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
On June 04 2013 07:59 aksfjh wrote: Indeed, but it's better than nothing. I like to see this action from Blizzard, small tweaks to experiment with game/ladder/competitive psychology. I still think they should be avoiding the competitive psychology aspect as much as possible. They're a game dev. not "Ladder Anxiety Anonymous" the support group. They've already learned that knee-jerking balance changes due to community QQ is bad; how is copying the shitty ladder system of a F2P game that's more popular because it's free any different? EDIT: This is on par with the stupidity that was hiding losses for ranks below master. | ||
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Innovation
United States284 Posts
I dunno why someone would do this....but if you can't be demoted, a person could lose 50 games at the beginning of a season, lowering their MMR but staying at 0 points, then play normally and be #1 for their division. There's no logical reason people would do this, but i bet they do. I wouldn't be surprised if this was done a lot. I believe that people have had warnings from intentionally tanking MMR before. Not sure if there have been any permabans. If Blizz doesn't do anything about that kind of abuse than it will likely become impossible to get top 8 in your league without doing that. Remember the days of SCBW ladder seasons when all the top ladder accounts were all hacks/ abusers? | ||
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alwinuz
Netherlands77 Posts
On June 04 2013 06:58 DavoS wrote: Eh, not too thrilled. When I first started playing, I was put in Gold. I was not gold league caliber. I lost every game that season and that was against low level silvers after the first few golds roflstomped me. I literally celebrated when I got demoted to silver. Would like to see a way to make placement matches more accurate before they worry about things like demotion This i know you can leave your leage is it then possible to demote yourself? It worked 2 weeks ago | ||
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Radicalness
United States271 Posts
I'm sure being demoted is a pretty quick activity killer for players that aren't very committed and play pretty casually. Anything that helps activity and keeps players playing is a plus in my opinion. Only time will tell the effect of the change though. | ||
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