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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9048 Posts
June 03 2013 22:20 GMT
#41
then placement matches should be at least 3, not 1.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
June 03 2013 22:21 GMT
#42
people who play this game seriously enough probably not terrible enough to be demoted and not care. people who play this game seriously enough but inconsistent enough to be demoted probably cares and like this arbitrary change. people who don't play this game seriously enough won't really care anyways.

G_G everybody wins!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Fair`
Profile Joined June 2012
United States3 Posts
June 03 2013 22:23 GMT
#43
This just irks me in a way I can't really describe. I mean I guess if you really look at it, it won't matter at all and you;ll still be playing people of your skill caliber. But I can't help but think Blizzard is just candy coating everything to make people feel better about how they are playing in this game. In my opinion, if you are playing badly, you should be told it. There is no shame in being in bronze, silver, etc. But now everyone is kind of being told they are all winners.

Anyways, not really that catastrophic but a step in the wrong direction imo.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
June 03 2013 22:23 GMT
#44
I certainly would prefer for them to abandon the league system and replace it with just an MMR. As people said, that's all that really matters. Except that you cannot see your actual MMR......

Fortunately, there are those programs or whatever that try and find out your MMR.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 22:24:39
June 03 2013 22:24 GMT
#45
On June 04 2013 07:17 dUTtrOACh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 07:16 tili wrote:
This doesn't really matter for who you are placed against though, because your league has nothing to do with who you are placed against - that is ONLY your MMR.

League is purely a metaphor for your skill quintile (more or less... considering the recent 8% changes to bronze/gold).

Right?


It's also the only feedback you get as a determiner of your progression. There are many people who think they aren't improving because the divisions above them are saturated with inactives.


But, you can still get promoted, so you'd still see progress. Just regress would be hidden.

Also, it's very likely that even if they don't show you that you've been demoted, they would internally calculate you into the right league. So I don't think leagues would suddenly become very static due to inactive players.

edit: the only reservation I have is if this applies for GM, which is doubtful.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
June 03 2013 22:25 GMT
#46
aww this sucks so no more bronze league?
the throws never bothered me anyway
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 03 2013 22:26 GMT
#47
This makes sense, leagues are a measure of progress and not skill anyway.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
June 03 2013 22:26 GMT
#48
On June 04 2013 07:19 aksfjh wrote:
That's not how league promotions work. There are MMR boundaries that you have to pass with a certain margin of confidence. The boundaries are static and based on some educated prediction of active ladder population distribution. There are no "open/filled spots" in a direct sense, so demotions/promotions happen independent of one another.


Are you sure? I thought leagues were based on quintiles. (Bronze = bottom 8%, silver = 20%, gold = 28%...... etc.)

However, if people are worried about inactives, this doesn't make a difference because you can't get demoted out of anything except GM through inactivity.
exoticexoteric
Profile Joined May 2013
2 Posts
June 03 2013 22:26 GMT
#49
Talk about old news. This was pointed out to you people months ago. The news was ignored and the thread closed.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=368689

User was banned for this post.
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 22:29:02
June 03 2013 22:27 GMT
#50
It's all cosmetics (ie. dressing) anyway. If you go on a bad losing streak your MMR will still be low enough to play low level players.

And if you wanted bad enough to drop in league all you have to do is click on the "leave league" button.
samjacoby
Profile Joined April 2013
United States3 Posts
June 03 2013 22:28 GMT
#51
wtf no more deranking to bronze to 200/200 sentry?
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
June 03 2013 22:28 GMT
#52
I think it is clever.

Once I got placed into Diamond with a 2on2 mate after the placement matches, even though we are Silver in 1on1 and really not that good. Then we didn't play any more games that season because we were scared that we would get demoted and not get the achievement for finished a season in Diamond if we continued to play. With this change we might have continued to play that season. So actually this change does help against a certain kind of ladder anxiety.
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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
June 03 2013 22:28 GMT
#53
I think this is not good for the ladder, i mean if you have no fear of being demoted why not canon rush 100% of the time?
puzzle7188
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States6 Posts
June 03 2013 22:29 GMT
#54
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laegoose
Profile Joined June 2010
Russian Federation325 Posts
June 03 2013 22:30 GMT
#55
I hope next season Blizzard will rename Bronze to Gold, Gold to Diamond, Diamond to Ultratripleruby, Masters to Grandmastergosubonjwa. Because people in lower leagues feel uncomfortable!
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
June 03 2013 22:31 GMT
#56
On June 04 2013 07:28 jax1492 wrote:
I think this is not good for the ladder, i mean if you have no fear of being demoted why not canon rush 100% of the time?


The point is you get demoted next season you play. Your MMR still changes... and if you're winning with cannon rushes 100% of the time then I think you deserve to get those wins lol
There is no one like you in the universe.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
June 03 2013 22:32 GMT
#57
On June 04 2013 07:30 laegoose wrote:
I hope next season Blizzard will rename Bronze to Gold, Gold to Diamond, Diamond to Ultratripleruby, Masters to Grandmastergosubonjwa. Because people in lower leagues feel uncomfortable!


Would you really care if they did? It's just changing words, but the meaning can't change.
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 22:35:58
June 03 2013 22:32 GMT
#58
On June 04 2013 07:29 puzzle7188 wrote:
I thought the unraked league was to help cope with ladder anxiety.


Clearly Blizz think that ladder apathy/ anxiety = fear of being relegated. It's not, but hey ho they have to be seen to be encouraging more and more people to play eh?

People will still get relegated the next season anyway too. So I don't see much point though :S
Bleh.
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
June 03 2013 22:34 GMT
#59
On June 04 2013 06:58 DavoS wrote:
Eh, not too thrilled. When I first started playing, I was put in Gold. I was not gold league caliber. I lost every game that season and that was against low level silvers after the first few golds roflstomped me. I literally celebrated when I got demoted to silver. Would like to see a way to make placement matches more accurate before they worry about things like demotion


Just leave league and redo your placement matches if it's the case.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 22:35:42
June 03 2013 22:34 GMT
#60
I.. wait.. what

I don't understand why sc2 and league are both trying to copy the negatives of the others ladder system while failing to include the positives
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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