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slixx
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom3 Posts
June 04 2013 03:20 GMT
#181
Well this is a welcome change,I for one will be playing again.Even though i think the game is not balance imo dosen't really matter now!
32
Profile Joined February 2010
United States163 Posts
June 04 2013 03:21 GMT
#182
Yeah this is a good change, and I'm very against the size increase of masters. If I need to learn a new build and unranked just isn't cutting it, now I have some time to play with before getting demoted.
Gaizokubanou
Profile Joined April 2013
United States61 Posts
June 04 2013 03:21 GMT
#183
If this change can get more people to play on ladder (by removing the fear of demotion) throughout the whole season then I see this as a good thing.
Gorribal
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Canada186 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 03:35:40
June 04 2013 03:21 GMT
#184
So this makes it that much harder for people to qualify for Challenger Leagues as those require masters but you can't just play and be promoted there, you need to get enough points in the previous season, and since no one gets demoted and rank doesn't indicate skill, who knows exactly how much you need to play to get promoted/into masters. Absolutely terrible.
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Aeis
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada9 Posts
June 04 2013 03:23 GMT
#185
I think the 'leave league' is there for players who would like to drop a league for whatever reason, assuming that their MMR has tanked.
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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
June 04 2013 03:23 GMT
#186
If my friend still played, he would've been overjoyed due to his consistent league-fluctuations xD
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
June 04 2013 03:27 GMT
#187
On June 04 2013 12:23 RogerX wrote:
If my friend still played, he would've been overjoyed due to his consistent league-fluctuations xD


You realise this also means a lot less people get promoted. So if hes in the league below, chances are he won't be moving up for a long time.
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XDEKSDEEXD
Profile Joined June 2013
622 Posts
June 04 2013 03:32 GMT
#188
This is good i think, people will feel bad if they get demoted, and this will solve that
quickml
Profile Joined October 2010
United States17 Posts
June 04 2013 03:41 GMT
#189
Weaksauce #bringingitback
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THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
June 04 2013 03:42 GMT
#190
aww chyeah breaking out all kinds of stupid builds
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arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
June 04 2013 03:57 GMT
#191
On June 04 2013 07:08 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 07:06 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Well now people are gonna be scared shitless to play their placement matches cause they don't know how they did lol.

Better than what's happening now, where people get to some goal league and just stop playing out of fear of demotion.



And in addition to this, this prevents people from abusing the ladder to bash noobs and stuff.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 04 2013 03:59 GMT
#192
On June 04 2013 12:57 arkedos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 07:08 aksfjh wrote:
On June 04 2013 07:06 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Well now people are gonna be scared shitless to play their placement matches cause they don't know how they did lol.

Better than what's happening now, where people get to some goal league and just stop playing out of fear of demotion.



And in addition to this, this prevents people from abusing the ladder to bash noobs and stuff.

Huh, they can actually still bash them :D
League is frozen, not MMR.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
June 04 2013 04:05 GMT
#193
I AINT DIGGIN IT
rip prime
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11603 Posts
June 04 2013 04:06 GMT
#194
meh. They don't show your global rank on most levels anyways. This isn't going to change much that hasn't already been obscured.

Although, I could get behind sluggaslamoo's idea.
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zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 04:08:48
June 04 2013 04:08 GMT
#195
Question: I’ve been losing quite a bit on the ladder lately. Why am I not being demoted?

Answer: To keep play at each skill level on the ladder competitive, we no longer demote players in the middle of a season. (Exception: Demotions down from Grand Master league are applied in cases of high bonus pool (inactivity).) Unless you're an inactive Grand Master, you can only be placed into a lower league when you play your initial placement match(es) in a new season, or by leaving the league.


....so um

how does that make the ladder more competitive by taking out demotions?


:logic:


On June 04 2013 12:57 arkedos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 07:08 aksfjh wrote:
On June 04 2013 07:06 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Well now people are gonna be scared shitless to play their placement matches cause they don't know how they did lol.

Better than what's happening now, where people get to some goal league and just stop playing out of fear of demotion.



And in addition to this, this prevents people from abusing the ladder to bash noobs and stuff.


Um no, your mmr isn't locked by any means, it just means you don't go down in the league.
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TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 04:13:51
June 04 2013 04:12 GMT
#196
This is a horrible idea. Why does blizzard never ask the community through polls etc? With the system, your league means next to nothing. Because ladder seasons are 11 weeks, your league could potentially be information which is 11 weeks old!

This is a slap in the face to competitive gamers. We want league to mean MORE. Would be nice to have masters broken into 3 leagues as the difference between a 200 pt master and a 1400 pt master is like baking soda and cocaine.

Epic fail.
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Innovation
Profile Joined February 2010
United States284 Posts
June 04 2013 04:16 GMT
#197
You realise this also means a lot less people get promoted. So if hes in the league below, chances are he won't be moving up for a long time.


That is not true, please don't needlessly freak people out. This does not effect promotions at all. Nobody will have a harder time getting promotions after this change.
About ChoyafOu "if he wants games decided by random chance he could just play the way he always does" Idra
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
June 04 2013 04:17 GMT
#198
Taking ladder's anxiety to a whole new level... Why are you even playing that game then ? Damn... Let's all make into master so that everyone can be happy. Oh wait... There are still points that will differenciate a newbie and a pro. Let's get rid of points aswell.
And then what ? Will there still be something that can distinguish the pro ? Guess not.
And we'll get retards to say : "yeah guys, i'm master, i'm the sh.t when it comes to starcraft 2 ! You haven't seen my most famous 6 pool rush"

Hope we won't get there though...
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12859 Posts
June 04 2013 04:21 GMT
#199
sucks imo, I know the demotion feeling sucks but if I ain't there then I should be demoted and let me know asap instead of keeping me there and demote me later
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
June 04 2013 04:24 GMT
#200
cool! i think i will reinstall my sc2 again. when will this go live?
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