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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
June 04 2013 00:18 GMT
#141
On June 04 2013 08:35 Innovation wrote:
Show nested quote +
Hmm what if a lot of people performs really good (ex.in diamond league) that they are qualified to go up masters. But Masters League has limited slots right? So they won't get promoted either? Since no one it Masters is getting demoted that season.


This is a common misconception. There are no limits on the volume of people that can be in masters (GM yes). It is also one of the reasons why there is something like 6% of people currently in masters even though its supposed to be just top 2%. This is because there are a lot of people who are inactive due to many reasons...fear of demotion being one of them. But this does not stop people from being promoted. If your active MMR is high enough to be promoted you will be, you do not need someone to fall out of masters for you to get a spot.


Thanks for clearing it out ^^
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QCD
Profile Joined September 2012
Suriname81 Posts
June 04 2013 00:19 GMT
#142
Not really fond of this change, I feel like Blizzard is making the ladder less about competing, with all of these sugar-coating-ladder-anxiety-appeasing changes.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 00:23:30
June 04 2013 00:22 GMT
#143
Not meaningful for anyone already in Master League.

Not particularly meaningful to begin with.

Can only be a good thing, really. Especially for those who are just occasional players.

Kinda funny though, you can climb the ladder, but you can only fall off of it at particular intervals!
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VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 00:26:36
June 04 2013 00:23 GMT
#144
Am I the only one who doesn't like this ?

In fact it's a step in the wrong direction.. League promotions and Demotions should appear more often IMO.. That way you really know when/where you/your skill really belong..

This is just worse lol..

And what's EVEN WORSE - now the Placement matches will be treated as you play in a GSL or sth.. And if you fail on any of them - then bye bye whole season.. Probably not gonna have any reason to play anymore during the rest of it.. :/
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JacobNX01a
Profile Joined November 2012
United States65 Posts
June 04 2013 00:30 GMT
#145
i wonder if this applies to the GM bonus pool rule :/
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JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 04 2013 00:33 GMT
#146
League is so much less important and accurate than MMR. I really wish we could have the option to see that without another program. It would be really nice for them to cut up the leagues into 5 or so pieces in order to decrease delay and therefore increase motivation as in The Procrastination Equation. Which applies here more to motivation than procrastination IMO.

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Msr
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)495 Posts
June 04 2013 00:35 GMT
#147
Seasons are extremely short, make it so the top 200 mmr players at the time of gm get promoted and stay gm for the entire season. No bonus pool demotion, and no playing 1 match to get into gm at like 3am...

This is a change with no negatives though so thats fine.
Leragie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 00:37:43
June 04 2013 00:36 GMT
#148
Eh, I don't see why people care. You will still be matched against people of your skill level. Seasons are pretty short anyways. Does it really matter that your profile might have a league icon that is a little off of your skill level for a few more weeks than usual?
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
June 04 2013 00:37 GMT
#149
is ladder anxiety really that big?

i dont think it should matter anyways, the ladder seasons are short now. thank goodness.
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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
June 04 2013 00:39 GMT
#150
You still get matched by MMR so this change means nothing in practical terms
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-Doji-
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium127 Posts
June 04 2013 00:40 GMT
#151
Guessing blizzard feels like the hardcore gamers dont care about ladder, and only care to improve. So they won't mind.
And people that only care about ladder will be happy they can't drop out of a league.

Ladder leagues are bullshit anyway
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
June 04 2013 00:57 GMT
#152
So now a bunch of people not worthy of certain leagues will still have the icon on their profile (your top league that stays on your profile). Meh change but I couldnt care less.
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Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 01:05:55
June 04 2013 01:05 GMT
#153
On June 04 2013 06:58 DavoS wrote:
Eh, not too thrilled. When I first started playing, I was put in Gold. I was not gold league caliber. I lost every game that season and that was against low level silvers after the first few golds roflstomped me. I literally celebrated when I got demoted to silver. Would like to see a way to make placement matches more accurate before they worry about things like demotion


You can leave your league and it will replace you. Problem solved.

Not to mention you're still playing against the same people regardless of your league...it all depends on MMR.
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Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
June 04 2013 01:13 GMT
#154
I don't really agree but I don't care about it that much either.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
June 04 2013 01:16 GMT
#155
On June 04 2013 06:58 DavoS wrote:
Eh, not too thrilled. When I first started playing, I was put in Gold. I was not gold league caliber. I lost every game that season and that was against low level silvers after the first few golds roflstomped me. I literally celebrated when I got demoted to silver. Would like to see a way to make placement matches more accurate before they worry about things like demotion


Shouldn't really matter as the people you're playing won't change because that's matched depending on our MMR, not league, correct? Unless you're referring to it being mentally demoralizing while having no actual effect?
HungrySC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States191 Posts
June 04 2013 01:23 GMT
#156
This is fucking stupid.

We already have unranked games for the less casual player. Why make the entire ladder experience even more casual as well.

Personally I want to know what my real ELO is. I want to know when I am playing relatively worse or better than others. This change only retards the rate at which we can actually see positive or negative results.

I can't imagine being a new player, improving and being stuck rank 1 in a shitty league for an entire season. That would be a huge fucking turn off.
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leova
Profile Joined April 2011
266 Posts
June 04 2013 01:33 GMT
#157
this will at least stop those "lose every game on purpose, and quit 5seconds into the others" assholes who try and get demoted to Bronze
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 04 2013 01:37 GMT
#158
On June 04 2013 10:33 leova wrote:
this will at least stop those "lose every game on purpose, and quit 5seconds into the others" assholes who try and get demoted to Bronze


oh that's true!
haven't thought of that!
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Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 01:38:11
June 04 2013 01:37 GMT
#159
On June 04 2013 06:58 DavoS wrote:
Eh, not too thrilled. When I first started playing, I was put in Gold. I was not gold league caliber. I lost every game that season and that was against low level silvers after the first few golds roflstomped me. I literally celebrated when I got demoted to silver. Would like to see a way to make placement matches more accurate before they worry about things like demotion


You don't understand the laddersystem. It's MMR that is imporant not your league. Leagues are nearly completly irrelevant and just a rough estimate of your current MMR.

this will at least stop those "lose every game on purpose, and quit 5seconds into the others" assholes who try and get demoted to Bronze


No it won't...
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KingHiram
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany21 Posts
June 04 2013 01:45 GMT
#160
On June 04 2013 10:33 leova wrote:
this will at least stop those "lose every game on purpose, and quit 5seconds into the others" assholes who try and get demoted to Bronze

what do they do in bronze? catching portraits? Mass bc? Mothership rush? completely outgame someone while dragging the game out for sixty minutes?
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