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On June 04 2013 08:35 Innovation wrote:Show nested quote +Hmm what if a lot of people performs really good (ex.in diamond league) that they are qualified to go up masters. But Masters League has limited slots right? So they won't get promoted either? Since no one it Masters is getting demoted that season. This is a common misconception. There are no limits on the volume of people that can be in masters (GM yes). It is also one of the reasons why there is something like 6% of people currently in masters even though its supposed to be just top 2%. This is because there are a lot of people who are inactive due to many reasons...fear of demotion being one of them. But this does not stop people from being promoted. If your active MMR is high enough to be promoted you will be, you do not need someone to fall out of masters for you to get a spot.
Thanks for clearing it out ^^
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Not really fond of this change, I feel like Blizzard is making the ladder less about competing, with all of these sugar-coating-ladder-anxiety-appeasing changes.
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Not meaningful for anyone already in Master League.
Not particularly meaningful to begin with.
Can only be a good thing, really. Especially for those who are just occasional players.
Kinda funny though, you can climb the ladder, but you can only fall off of it at particular intervals!
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Am I the only one who doesn't like this ?
In fact it's a step in the wrong direction.. League promotions and Demotions should appear more often IMO.. That way you really know when/where you/your skill really belong..
This is just worse lol..
And what's EVEN WORSE - now the Placement matches will be treated as you play in a GSL or sth.. And if you fail on any of them - then bye bye whole season.. Probably not gonna have any reason to play anymore during the rest of it.. :/
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i wonder if this applies to the GM bonus pool rule :/
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League is so much less important and accurate than MMR. I really wish we could have the option to see that without another program. It would be really nice for them to cut up the leagues into 5 or so pieces in order to decrease delay and therefore increase motivation as in The Procrastination Equation. Which applies here more to motivation than procrastination IMO.
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Seasons are extremely short, make it so the top 200 mmr players at the time of gm get promoted and stay gm for the entire season. No bonus pool demotion, and no playing 1 match to get into gm at like 3am...
This is a change with no negatives though so thats fine.
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Eh, I don't see why people care. You will still be matched against people of your skill level. Seasons are pretty short anyways. Does it really matter that your profile might have a league icon that is a little off of your skill level for a few more weeks than usual?
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is ladder anxiety really that big?
i dont think it should matter anyways, the ladder seasons are short now. thank goodness.
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You still get matched by MMR so this change means nothing in practical terms
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Guessing blizzard feels like the hardcore gamers dont care about ladder, and only care to improve. So they won't mind.
And people that only care about ladder will be happy they can't drop out of a league.
Ladder leagues are bullshit anyway
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So now a bunch of people not worthy of certain leagues will still have the icon on their profile (your top league that stays on your profile). Meh change but I couldnt care less.
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On June 04 2013 06:58 DavoS wrote:
Eh, not too thrilled. When I first started playing, I was put in Gold. I was not gold league caliber. I lost every game that season and that was against low level silvers after the first few golds roflstomped me. I literally celebrated when I got demoted to silver. Would like to see a way to make placement matches more accurate before they worry about things like demotion
You can leave your league and it will replace you. Problem solved.
Not to mention you're still playing against the same people regardless of your league...it all depends on MMR.
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I don't really agree but I don't care about it that much either.
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On June 04 2013 06:58 DavoS wrote:
Eh, not too thrilled. When I first started playing, I was put in Gold. I was not gold league caliber. I lost every game that season and that was against low level silvers after the first few golds roflstomped me. I literally celebrated when I got demoted to silver. Would like to see a way to make placement matches more accurate before they worry about things like demotion
Shouldn't really matter as the people you're playing won't change because that's matched depending on our MMR, not league, correct? Unless you're referring to it being mentally demoralizing while having no actual effect?
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This is fucking stupid.
We already have unranked games for the less casual player. Why make the entire ladder experience even more casual as well.
Personally I want to know what my real ELO is. I want to know when I am playing relatively worse or better than others. This change only retards the rate at which we can actually see positive or negative results.
I can't imagine being a new player, improving and being stuck rank 1 in a shitty league for an entire season. That would be a huge fucking turn off.
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this will at least stop those "lose every game on purpose, and quit 5seconds into the others" assholes who try and get demoted to Bronze
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On June 04 2013 10:33 leova wrote:
this will at least stop those "lose every game on purpose, and quit 5seconds into the others" assholes who try and get demoted to Bronze
oh that's true!
haven't thought of that!
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On June 04 2013 06:58 DavoS wrote:
Eh, not too thrilled. When I first started playing, I was put in Gold. I was not gold league caliber. I lost every game that season and that was against low level silvers after the first few golds roflstomped me. I literally celebrated when I got demoted to silver. Would like to see a way to make placement matches more accurate before they worry about things like demotion
You don't understand the laddersystem. It's MMR that is imporant not your league. Leagues are nearly completly irrelevant and just a rough estimate of your current MMR.
this will at least stop those "lose every game on purpose, and quit 5seconds into the others" assholes who try and get demoted to Bronze
No it won't...
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On June 04 2013 10:33 leova wrote:
this will at least stop those "lose every game on purpose, and quit 5seconds into the others" assholes who try and get demoted to Bronze
what do they do in bronze? catching portraits? Mass bc? Mothership rush? completely outgame someone while dragging the game out for sixty minutes?
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