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WCS EU Challenger: SortOf and sLivko re-qualify for Premier League
Detailed results from Live Report Thread by SinCitta. + Show Spoiler [Results] +
Europe saw two more Zergs qualify for the second season of the Premier League, with WW.SortOf and VPBenQ.sLivko managing re-qualify after having a disappointing time in season one. SortOf strolled through in first place by defeating Strelok and Slivko, while Slivko had to fight his way up from the losers match, taking down Jogginghose and Strelok to earn his berth.
Unfortunately the newcomer Jogginghose was cast back down into "Code B" for his last place finish, just weeks after breaking through the tough Challenger League qualifiers and earning his shot on the big stage. As for Na`Vi.Strelok, who finished top 16 in this season's Premier League, he manages to stay in the Challenger League - but has much to think about going forward as both of his Zerg opponents had tailor-made counters for his predictable mech style.
Currently Qualified for Premier League Season II (22/32):
LG-IM_Mvp, Mill.ForGG, K3.LucifroN, Empire|Happy, Acer.MMA, c.Shuttle, Mill.Dayshi, Empire|Beastyqt EG.Stephano.RC, DIMAGA, d.Tefel, Liquid`Ret, Acer.Bly, Liquid`TLO, K3.VortiX, WW.SortOf, VPBenQ.sLivko MVP.TAiLS, Na`Vi.BabyKnight, XMG.ToD, Grubby, Ence.elfi
WCS America Challenger: Nestea, Apocalypse, Scarlett, and Polt the first four to re-qualify for the Premier League.
Detailed results from Live Report Thread by Shellshock1122 + Show Spoiler [Results] +
While WCS Europe has moved onto the final stage of the Challenger League, WCS America is just finishing up on the initial, bracket phase. While the winners made their way up to Premier League season II, the losers will have a second chance in the upcoming 'group' phase.
The first four players through were all players who played in season one and reached the Ro16, and were thus seeded advantageously into the third and final round of the Challenger League's bracket phase: LG-IM_NesTea, Quantic.Apocalypse, CMStorm_Polt, and Acer.Scarlett.
The defending Premier League players faced some stiff challenges from the players coming up from the lower leagues, including multiple international champion TaeJa, the Chinese duo of iG.Jim and ZOO.Top, as well as lone Argentinian Capoch. At the end of the day the defenders advantage was too much, and the season one Premier players qualified right in with just a single bo3 series won. The four losing players will now have one last shot in the 'group' phase of the Challenger league.
Currently Qualified for Premier League Season II (12/32):
HerO, Alicia, CranK mOOnGLaDe, Snute, Revival, Scarlett, NesTea, Ryung, aLive, Apocalypse, Polt
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I didn't have Slivko picked to get out but good on him.
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So I guess they're just never going to region lock AM. That's disappointing- well, I guess I'll continue to watch until the foreigners are eliminated. 3/12 foreigners WCS AM, only 1 from the Americas, k. Although I guess Polt is getting close to being considered American :D
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At this point I am not sure of any of the players, who gets out or stays - many of the underdogs are beginning to perform very very well.
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Yes taeja lost against Polt! Too bad the chinese lost i really thought they might have a chance
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On May 30 2013 22:23 Bam Lee wrote:Yes taeja lost against Polt! Too bad the chinese lost i really thought they might have a chance
They can still advance to PL through challenger group stage and i would expect at least Jim make it to PL.
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On May 30 2013 22:11 Crownlol wrote: So I guess they're just never going to region lock AM. That's disappointing- well, I guess I'll continue to watch until the foreigners are eliminated. 3/12 foreigners WCS AM, only 1 from the Americas, k. Although I guess Polt is getting close to being considered American :D
Who cares? If the AM players want to train harder they can qualify. It's not impossible.
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On May 30 2013 22:41 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2013 22:11 Crownlol wrote: So I guess they're just never going to region lock AM. That's disappointing- well, I guess I'll continue to watch until the foreigners are eliminated. 3/12 foreigners WCS AM, only 1 from the Americas, k. Although I guess Polt is getting close to being considered American :D Who cares? If the AM players want to train harder they can qualify. It's not impossible.
I cannot reitterate enough how important this is to mention, thank you. Yes, the economics are different. Yes, geography and culture matter. But yes, Americas players can train harder and win.
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NesTea is back!
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TaeJa
You better qualify via Up and Downs now!
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On May 30 2013 22:51 Ambidexter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2013 22:41 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:On May 30 2013 22:11 Crownlol wrote: So I guess they're just never going to region lock AM. That's disappointing- well, I guess I'll continue to watch until the foreigners are eliminated. 3/12 foreigners WCS AM, only 1 from the Americas, k. Although I guess Polt is getting close to being considered American :D Who cares? If the AM players want to train harder they can qualify. It's not impossible. I cannot reitterate enough how important this is to mention, thank you. Yes, the economics are different. Yes, geography and culture matter. But yes, Americas players can train harder and win.
This format is really showing what it takes to be the best. Now forgeiners don't need to travel to Korea to train and consistantly verse the best players (with no cross server issues). I feel while this season and maybe this whole year will be dominated by Koreans, the worldwide level of play will increase. With alot more players gaining exposure through challenger league, liquidpedia articles and gaining meaningful tournament exposure instead of anon online cups and being a ladder warrior the quality and player depth will be growing
Coming from a country widely neglected by the current WCS format (mOOnGLaDe fighting!) I don't really have any of the patriotic issues people have with lack of Americans in WCS NA. I'd be happy enough with a HerO vs aLive final just as much as a GLaDe vs Snute game. I don't care where people are from, I care more about the style of play and the way they approach the game along with the quality of play. Personally I prefer watching Catz play than DRG, Flash more than Lucifron, PartinG more than Huk, DeMusliM more than SaSe, PiG more than Curious, and Grubby over anyone. After being up til 5am to watch WCS EU finals both days and enjoying Dimaga verse MVP crazy mech vs vipers or the Lucifron ForGG series I was just enjoying the quality of play from both sides and then the world class mindgames from TLO with solid play to win fifth place was just as impressive. WCS NA seems to have exposed alot of up and coming players such as DrunkenBoi with consistant hellbat drops, theognis beating Jaedong State beating Oz and Suppy's amazing games in his group. It's the same as I love watching Seattle play NFL more than the champion Ravens, West Indies play ODI cricket more than World #1 India, prefer watching World #1 All Blacks play rugby more than England or USA play basketball more than Spain.
The Portugese Christiano Ronaldo plays for a Spanish club in soccer and it strengthens the whole La Liga, Chris Gayle plays in the India Premier League and is one of the highest paid players and improves that compition, many world class rugby players are playing in Japan and they are currently the strongest they have ever been, Japanese pitchers have made an impact in the MLB. Why shouldn't Crank, Revival and others be able to travel and use there abilities to set a benchmark for foreign players to reach and eclipse?
So to summerize I argee with you that everyone needs to train harder and I beleive all the regions will benefit from globalising the scene and creating greater motivation, exposure and opponents for each region.
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On May 31 2013 01:09 ZeBigMarn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2013 22:51 Ambidexter wrote:On May 30 2013 22:41 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:On May 30 2013 22:11 Crownlol wrote: So I guess they're just never going to region lock AM. That's disappointing- well, I guess I'll continue to watch until the foreigners are eliminated. 3/12 foreigners WCS AM, only 1 from the Americas, k. Although I guess Polt is getting close to being considered American :D Who cares? If the AM players want to train harder they can qualify. It's not impossible. I cannot reitterate enough how important this is to mention, thank you. Yes, the economics are different. Yes, geography and culture matter. But yes, Americas players can train harder and win. This format is really showing what it takes to be the best. Now forgeiners don't need to travel to Korea to train and consistantly verse the best players (with no cross server issues). I feel while this season and maybe this whole year will be dominated by Koreans, the worldwide level of play will increase. With alot more players gaining exposure through challenger league, liquidpedia articles and gaining meaningful tournament exposure instead of anon online cups and being a ladder warrior the quality and player depth will be growing Coming from a country widely neglected by the current WCS format (mOOnGLaDe fighting!) I don't really have any of the patriotic issues people have with lack of Americans in WCS NA. I'd be happy enough with a HerO vs aLive final just as much as a GLaDe vs Snute game. I don't care where people are from, I care more about the style of play and the way they approach the game along with the quality of play. Personally I prefer watching Catz play than DRG, Flash more than Lucifron, PartinG more than Huk, DeMusliM more than SaSe, PiG more than Curious, and Grubby over anyone. After being up til 5am to watch WCS EU finals both days and enjoying Dimaga verse MVP crazy mech vs vipers or the Lucifron ForGG series I was just enjoying the quality of play from both sides and then the world class mindgames from TLO with solid play to win fifth place was just as impressive. WCS NA seems to have exposed alot of up and coming players such as DrunkenBoi with consistant hellbat drops, theognis beating Jaedong State beating Oz and Suppy's amazing games in his group. It's the same as I love watching Seattle play NFL more than the champion Ravens, West Indies play ODI cricket more than World #1 India, prefer watching World #1 All Blacks play rugby more than England or USA play basketball more than Spain. The Portugese Christiano Ronaldo plays for a Spanish club in soccer and it strengthens the whole La Liga, Chris Gayle plays in the India Premier League and is one of the highest paid players and improves that compition, many world class rugby players are playing in Japan and they are currently the strongest they have ever been, Japanese pitchers have made an impact in the MLB. Why shouldn't Crank, Revival and others be able to travel and use there abilities to set a benchmark for foreign players to reach and eclipse? So to summerize I argee with you that everyone needs to train harder and I beleive all the regions will benefit from globalising the scene and creating greater motivation, exposure and opponents for each region.
You seem to be suggesting that North Americans didn't play Koreans very often before WCS. That is wrong. Besides Huk and Idra winning a few in the early days of WoL, every major Starcraft 2 NA tournament has been dominated by Europeans and Koreans: NASL, MLG, IPL. And guess what? Both Europe and Korea have far more local, region-locked or defacto region-locked competitions that incentivize players to develop than NA does or ever had. If losing to Koreans then didn't help, why would it now?
I do grant your point about up-and-comers beating Koreans and gaining more exposure, and maybe in the long run you'll be right, but still, 9 of 12 people qualified for next year's premier league are Korean so far...
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On May 31 2013 01:09 ZeBigMarn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2013 22:51 Ambidexter wrote:On May 30 2013 22:41 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:On May 30 2013 22:11 Crownlol wrote: So I guess they're just never going to region lock AM. That's disappointing- well, I guess I'll continue to watch until the foreigners are eliminated. 3/12 foreigners WCS AM, only 1 from the Americas, k. Although I guess Polt is getting close to being considered American :D Who cares? If the AM players want to train harder they can qualify. It's not impossible. I cannot reitterate enough how important this is to mention, thank you. Yes, the economics are different. Yes, geography and culture matter. But yes, Americas players can train harder and win. This format is really showing what it takes to be the best. Now forgeiners don't need to travel to Korea to train and consistantly verse the best players (with no cross server issues). I feel while this season and maybe this whole year will be dominated by Koreans, the worldwide level of play will increase. With alot more players gaining exposure through challenger league, liquidpedia articles and gaining meaningful tournament exposure instead of anon online cups and being a ladder warrior the quality and player depth will be growing Coming from a country widely neglected by the current WCS format (mOOnGLaDe fighting!) I don't really have any of the patriotic issues people have with lack of Americans in WCS NA. I'd be happy enough with a HerO vs aLive final just as much as a GLaDe vs Snute game. I don't care where people are from, I care more about the style of play and the way they approach the game along with the quality of play. Personally I prefer watching Catz play than DRG, Flash more than Lucifron, PartinG more than Huk, DeMusliM more than SaSe, PiG more than Curious, and Grubby over anyone. After being up til 5am to watch WCS EU finals both days and enjoying Dimaga verse MVP crazy mech vs vipers or the Lucifron ForGG series I was just enjoying the quality of play from both sides and then the world class mindgames from TLO with solid play to win fifth place was just as impressive. WCS NA seems to have exposed alot of up and coming players such as DrunkenBoi with consistant hellbat drops, theognis beating Jaedong State beating Oz and Suppy's amazing games in his group. It's the same as I love watching Seattle play NFL more than the champion Ravens, West Indies play ODI cricket more than World #1 India, prefer watching World #1 All Blacks play rugby more than England or USA play basketball more than Spain. The Portugese Christiano Ronaldo plays for a Spanish club in soccer and it strengthens the whole La Liga, Chris Gayle plays in the India Premier League and is one of the highest paid players and improves that compition, many world class rugby players are playing in Japan and they are currently the strongest they have ever been, Japanese pitchers have made an impact in the MLB. Why shouldn't Crank, Revival and others be able to travel and use there abilities to set a benchmark for foreign players to reach and eclipse? So to summerize I argee with you that everyone needs to train harder and I beleive all the regions will benefit from globalising the scene and creating greater motivation, exposure and opponents for each region. Because Christiano Ronaldo could personally bankroll the entire esports market. You cant be serious with that comparison, surely.
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If MC manages to get into Premier league, WCS is going to have such a nice WoL feel... with all these GSL champions.
Can't wait for WCS EU Premier League season II
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On May 31 2013 02:27 Level10Peon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 01:09 ZeBigMarn wrote:On May 30 2013 22:51 Ambidexter wrote:On May 30 2013 22:41 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:On May 30 2013 22:11 Crownlol wrote: So I guess they're just never going to region lock AM. That's disappointing- well, I guess I'll continue to watch until the foreigners are eliminated. 3/12 foreigners WCS AM, only 1 from the Americas, k. Although I guess Polt is getting close to being considered American :D Who cares? If the AM players want to train harder they can qualify. It's not impossible. I cannot reitterate enough how important this is to mention, thank you. Yes, the economics are different. Yes, geography and culture matter. But yes, Americas players can train harder and win. This format is really showing what it takes to be the best. Now forgeiners don't need to travel to Korea to train and consistantly verse the best players (with no cross server issues). I feel while this season and maybe this whole year will be dominated by Koreans, the worldwide level of play will increase. With alot more players gaining exposure through challenger league, liquidpedia articles and gaining meaningful tournament exposure instead of anon online cups and being a ladder warrior the quality and player depth will be growing Coming from a country widely neglected by the current WCS format (mOOnGLaDe fighting!) I don't really have any of the patriotic issues people have with lack of Americans in WCS NA. I'd be happy enough with a HerO vs aLive final just as much as a GLaDe vs Snute game. I don't care where people are from, I care more about the style of play and the way they approach the game along with the quality of play. Personally I prefer watching Catz play than DRG, Flash more than Lucifron, PartinG more than Huk, DeMusliM more than SaSe, PiG more than Curious, and Grubby over anyone. After being up til 5am to watch WCS EU finals both days and enjoying Dimaga verse MVP crazy mech vs vipers or the Lucifron ForGG series I was just enjoying the quality of play from both sides and then the world class mindgames from TLO with solid play to win fifth place was just as impressive. WCS NA seems to have exposed alot of up and coming players such as DrunkenBoi with consistant hellbat drops, theognis beating Jaedong State beating Oz and Suppy's amazing games in his group. It's the same as I love watching Seattle play NFL more than the champion Ravens, West Indies play ODI cricket more than World #1 India, prefer watching World #1 All Blacks play rugby more than England or USA play basketball more than Spain. The Portugese Christiano Ronaldo plays for a Spanish club in soccer and it strengthens the whole La Liga, Chris Gayle plays in the India Premier League and is one of the highest paid players and improves that compition, many world class rugby players are playing in Japan and they are currently the strongest they have ever been, Japanese pitchers have made an impact in the MLB. Why shouldn't Crank, Revival and others be able to travel and use there abilities to set a benchmark for foreign players to reach and eclipse? So to summerize I argee with you that everyone needs to train harder and I beleive all the regions will benefit from globalising the scene and creating greater motivation, exposure and opponents for each region. You seem to be suggesting that North Americans didn't play Koreans very often before WCS. That is wrong. Besides Huk and Idra winning a few in the early days of WoL, every major Starcraft 2 NA tournament has been dominated by Europeans and Koreans: NASL, MLG, IPL. And guess what? Both Europe and Korea have far more local, region-locked or defacto region-locked competitions that incentivize players to develop than NA does or ever had. If losing to Koreans then didn't help, why would it now?
The EU is more region locked, we all agree with that, but it's also because Europe, in the actual state of professionnal Starcraft 2, has alot more players able to win internationnal tournaments and with the level to beat koreans, such as Stephano, Nerchio, Mana, VortiX, Lucifron, and many many others. America, beside Scarlett, just actually doesn't get that. The level of the local scene is one of the main reason of the "Region Lock".
You just have to look at all the Chinese/Korean players interviews in WCS : If there were laggning the same on both servers, they would allmost all pick AM region over Europe.
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On May 30 2013 22:51 Ambidexter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2013 22:41 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:On May 30 2013 22:11 Crownlol wrote: So I guess they're just never going to region lock AM. That's disappointing- well, I guess I'll continue to watch until the foreigners are eliminated. 3/12 foreigners WCS AM, only 1 from the Americas, k. Although I guess Polt is getting close to being considered American :D Who cares? If the AM players want to train harder they can qualify. It's not impossible. I cannot reitterate enough how important this is to mention, thank you. Yes, the economics are different. Yes, geography and culture matter. But yes, Americas players can train harder and win.
But the deck is stacked against them, big time. Makes every NA victory a miracle.
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On May 31 2013 02:27 Level10Peon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 01:09 ZeBigMarn wrote:On May 30 2013 22:51 Ambidexter wrote:On May 30 2013 22:41 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:On May 30 2013 22:11 Crownlol wrote: So I guess they're just never going to region lock AM. That's disappointing- well, I guess I'll continue to watch until the foreigners are eliminated. 3/12 foreigners WCS AM, only 1 from the Americas, k. Although I guess Polt is getting close to being considered American :D Who cares? If the AM players want to train harder they can qualify. It's not impossible. I cannot reitterate enough how important this is to mention, thank you. Yes, the economics are different. Yes, geography and culture matter. But yes, Americas players can train harder and win. This format is really showing what it takes to be the best. Now forgeiners don't need to travel to Korea to train and consistantly verse the best players (with no cross server issues). I feel while this season and maybe this whole year will be dominated by Koreans, the worldwide level of play will increase. With alot more players gaining exposure through challenger league, liquidpedia articles and gaining meaningful tournament exposure instead of anon online cups and being a ladder warrior the quality and player depth will be growing Coming from a country widely neglected by the current WCS format (mOOnGLaDe fighting!) I don't really have any of the patriotic issues people have with lack of Americans in WCS NA. I'd be happy enough with a HerO vs aLive final just as much as a GLaDe vs Snute game. I don't care where people are from, I care more about the style of play and the way they approach the game along with the quality of play. Personally I prefer watching Catz play than DRG, Flash more than Lucifron, PartinG more than Huk, DeMusliM more than SaSe, PiG more than Curious, and Grubby over anyone. After being up til 5am to watch WCS EU finals both days and enjoying Dimaga verse MVP crazy mech vs vipers or the Lucifron ForGG series I was just enjoying the quality of play from both sides and then the world class mindgames from TLO with solid play to win fifth place was just as impressive. WCS NA seems to have exposed alot of up and coming players such as DrunkenBoi with consistant hellbat drops, theognis beating Jaedong State beating Oz and Suppy's amazing games in his group. It's the same as I love watching Seattle play NFL more than the champion Ravens, West Indies play ODI cricket more than World #1 India, prefer watching World #1 All Blacks play rugby more than England or USA play basketball more than Spain. The Portugese Christiano Ronaldo plays for a Spanish club in soccer and it strengthens the whole La Liga, Chris Gayle plays in the India Premier League and is one of the highest paid players and improves that compition, many world class rugby players are playing in Japan and they are currently the strongest they have ever been, Japanese pitchers have made an impact in the MLB. Why shouldn't Crank, Revival and others be able to travel and use there abilities to set a benchmark for foreign players to reach and eclipse? So to summerize I argee with you that everyone needs to train harder and I beleive all the regions will benefit from globalising the scene and creating greater motivation, exposure and opponents for each region. You seem to be suggesting that North Americans didn't play Koreans very often before WCS. That is wrong. Besides Huk and Idra winning a few in the early days of WoL, every major Starcraft 2 NA tournament has been dominated by Europeans and Koreans: NASL, MLG, IPL. And guess what? Both Europe and Korea have far more local, region-locked or defacto region-locked competitions that incentivize players to develop than NA does or ever had. If losing to Koreans then didn't help, why would it now? I do grant your point about up-and-comers beating Koreans and gaining more exposure, and maybe in the long run you'll be right, but still, 9 of 12 people qualified for next year's premier league are Korean so far...
I am trying to look at the positives of spreading the Korean player base throughout the world. I'm not saying there wasn't Koreans vs Americans or Europeans before but with the WCS, Koreans have more incentive to play cross server to experience and adapt to the metagame of alternate servers which will create alot more frequent exposure of Koreans to foreigners on the ladder. This is all hypothetical though and as you mentioned I could be right but I could also be wrong which is highly likely, but I hope for the sake E-Sports, my faith in Blizzards system is well placed and it does improve and globalize the scene to unprecedented levels. The issue you raise that 9 out of 12 qualifers for WCS NA are Korean seems like a good reference point we can refer to in future season to judge tbe success of improving the foreign player base.
On May 31 2013 02:40 1Dhalism wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 01:09 ZeBigMarn wrote:On May 30 2013 22:51 Ambidexter wrote:On May 30 2013 22:41 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:On May 30 2013 22:11 Crownlol wrote: So I guess they're just never going to region lock AM. That's disappointing- well, I guess I'll continue to watch until the foreigners are eliminated. 3/12 foreigners WCS AM, only 1 from the Americas, k. Although I guess Polt is getting close to being considered American :D Who cares? If the AM players want to train harder they can qualify. It's not impossible. I cannot reitterate enough how important this is to mention, thank you. Yes, the economics are different. Yes, geography and culture matter. But yes, Americas players can train harder and win. This format is really showing what it takes to be the best. Now forgeiners don't need to travel to Korea to train and consistantly verse the best players (with no cross server issues). I feel while this season and maybe this whole year will be dominated by Koreans, the worldwide level of play will increase. With alot more players gaining exposure through challenger league, liquidpedia articles and gaining meaningful tournament exposure instead of anon online cups and being a ladder warrior the quality and player depth will be growing Coming from a country widely neglected by the current WCS format (mOOnGLaDe fighting!) I don't really have any of the patriotic issues people have with lack of Americans in WCS NA. I'd be happy enough with a HerO vs aLive final just as much as a GLaDe vs Snute game. I don't care where people are from, I care more about the style of play and the way they approach the game along with the quality of play. Personally I prefer watching Catz play than DRG, Flash more than Lucifron, PartinG more than Huk, DeMusliM more than SaSe, PiG more than Curious, and Grubby over anyone. After being up til 5am to watch WCS EU finals both days and enjoying Dimaga verse MVP crazy mech vs vipers or the Lucifron ForGG series I was just enjoying the quality of play from both sides and then the world class mindgames from TLO with solid play to win fifth place was just as impressive. WCS NA seems to have exposed alot of up and coming players such as DrunkenBoi with consistant hellbat drops, theognis beating Jaedong State beating Oz and Suppy's amazing games in his group. It's the same as I love watching Seattle play NFL more than the champion Ravens, West Indies play ODI cricket more than World #1 India, prefer watching World #1 All Blacks play rugby more than England or USA play basketball more than Spain. The Portugese Christiano Ronaldo plays for a Spanish club in soccer and it strengthens the whole La Liga, Chris Gayle plays in the India Premier League and is one of the highest paid players and improves that compition, many world class rugby players are playing in Japan and they are currently the strongest they have ever been, Japanese pitchers have made an impact in the MLB. Why shouldn't Crank, Revival and others be able to travel and use there abilities to set a benchmark for foreign players to reach and eclipse? So to summerize I argee with you that everyone needs to train harder and I beleive all the regions will benefit from globalising the scene and creating greater motivation, exposure and opponents for each region. Because Christiano Ronaldo could personally bankroll the entire esports market. You cant be serious with that comparison, surely.
I don't see how Ronaldo's paycheck can influence this topic? The comparison was to make a point that the best players go to where the money or best chance for success is. You might be right and I'm over stating the comparison because it's not like the greatest players such as Innovation, Life, Soulkey, Flash or PartinG have changed region, but former greats who are still very capable of wining have changed. I could have just of easily have said the New Zealand former All Black Sitiveni Sivivatu who retired from Test rugby was playing for French team Clermont and came top five in European player of the year voting or Beckam playing for the Galaxy and improving the quality of the MLS while being well past his prime. Just last year the Exiles (a team consisting of former Australian and New Zealand players who travelled overseas after their prime to make money) beat the national English Rugby League team. This is just like Stephano who is more than likely one of the highest payed players outside of Korea being European but whom lived at the EG lair and trained in America which is a similar comparison to the Portugese Ronaldo playing in Spain. Or if that isn't right how about Taeja when ontop of the world was playing for foreigner Team Liquid? or Jaedong (who is argueably past his prime (hope not)) going to American team EG?
Furthermore, should Europeans not be allowed to play on the USPGA tour for golf? or Pau Gasol or other Europeans in the NBA? The best basketball players in the NBL (Australian Basketball League) are Americans who were college stars who couldn't crack the NBA. The CFL is filled with NFL draft rejects and seems likely where 'golden boy' Tebow will go. Do these people not deserve a chance to play their sport and get paid for it? People playing for teams or competitions outside there country of origin isn't rare in any sport and E-Sports in my opinion should be no exception.
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good to see so many foreigners, lets be positive and hope AM region picks it up!
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Players made to round of 16 like Teaja Jim had to fall back to groups and played against the players who lost at round of 40? What kind of rule is that? WCS NA!
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