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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On May 10 2013 12:07 qijie7007 wrote: i think the Game1 no GG vs Polt in WCS AM trigger the move. LOL It was a lot of factors, but the straw that broke the camel's back was when he called his fans "a bunch of fucks" or something like that. Not GGing and leaving games early is sadly common for Idra now. Insulting the fanbase was too far (at least in EG's opinion.) | ||
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On May 10 2013 12:04 Xyos212 wrote: Yes its not professional what he said, but like its been said Idra and team EG were almost one and the same for me. I feel they are seriously losing a BIG part of what made them so popular in the first place. People need to grow up. So idra left when the game was even, who cares. Free win for the other guy. It creates buzz about him and in turn EG. SO he called us all a piece of shit. Meh. I have the mentality of "Oh that Idra!" and laugh it off. I would take Idra over any Korean that has literally no personality or emotion (not counting MC). Way too far to remove him from the team. Its going to come back to bite EG, Idra WAS TEAM EG. Now what is EG? I know inControl is on EG, but thats really it. I have no idea who else is on and dont really care honestly. Incontrol and Idra were interesting, now its whatever... Sad foolish decision... Most of us would disagree. As has been said dozens of times in the thread thus far: EG is far more than Idra. DeMuslim, Stephano, Huk, Incontrol all extremely popular players/personalities, and Suppy is up-and-coming. Edit: forgot Jaedong even | ||
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Xahhk
Canada540 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:55 Mozdk wrote: People are hyper sensitive. Idra said what he was feeling. How can people be offended by that. Weak move by EG imho. He's the face of EG essentially. Why should they keep someone who taunts and mocks the 'customer base'?. Why does everyone like to reduce everything into something exaggerated like the community is crying over words? | ||
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mtn
729 Posts
On May 10 2013 12:04 FoxShine wrote: Yea he moved in with his girlfriend maybe 2 weeks ago. Great news... I'm sorry... But why should EG care what he does in his private life? Does your boss care if u are broke or have a kid on a way or some shit? lol | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
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GhostLink
United States450 Posts
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On May 10 2013 12:04 Xyos212 wrote: Yes its not professional what he said, but like its been said Idra and team EG were almost one and the same for me. I feel they are seriously losing a BIG part of what made them so popular in the first place. People need to grow up. So idra left when the game was even, who cares. Free win for the other guy. It creates buzz about him and in turn EG. SO he called us all a piece of shit. Meh. I have the mentality of "Oh that Idra!" and laugh it off. I would take Idra over any Korean that has literally no personality or emotion (not counting MC). Way too far to remove him from the team. Its going to come back to bite EG, Idra WAS TEAM EG. Now what is EG? I know inControl is on EG, but thats really it. I have no idea who else is on and dont really care honestly. Incontrol and Idra were interesting, now its whatever... Sad foolish decision... Indeed, but in the opposite sense. Idra was EG to me as well, for much of the time (until they got Stephano), and that did not reflect well on my impression of EG. | ||
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Germany673 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote: Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Those are almost 3 years ago, when SC2 had only a couple of progamers. He has not been topnotch for over 2 years now, saying he is mediocre is not farfetched. | ||
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
On May 10 2013 12:04 Xyos212 wrote: Yes its not professional what he said, but like its been said Idra and team EG were almost one and the same for me. I feel they are seriously losing a BIG part of what made them so popular in the first place. People need to grow up. So idra left when the game was even, who cares. Free win for the other guy. It creates buzz about him and in turn EG. SO he called us all a piece of shit. Meh. I have the mentality of "Oh that Idra!" and laugh it off. I would take Idra over any Korean that has literally no personality or emotion (not counting MC). Way too far to remove him from the team. Its going to come back to bite EG, Idra WAS TEAM EG. Now what is EG? I know inControl is on EG, but thats really it. I have no idea who else is on and dont really care honestly. Incontrol and Idra were interesting, now its whatever... Sad foolish decision... As much as I agree with you that IdrA was a big face on EG the rest of your comments are entirely off. For starters, EG has Demuslim and Suppy who are doing well in WCS, then they've got their Korean roster as well. Finally, just because you're not actively watching the Korean scene doesn't mean that Koreans don't have personality. I don't watch the Euro scene, I don't know many people outside of Grubby, TLO and NaNiwa from there, that doesn't mean I think Euro's have no personality, I just haven't tapped into the Euro scene. Try tap into the Korean scene before you run your mouth saying they have no personality. It sickens me when people expect personality to roll out in front of you within 20 seconds. | ||
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Wpgstevo
Canada79 Posts
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On May 10 2013 12:11 achan1058 wrote: Indeed, but in the opposite sense. Idra was EG to me as well, and that did not reflect well on EG. lol? It's IdrA that doesn't reflect EG very well. If anything, EG got rid of a guy who indeed was their front man, but who was also giving off a bad public image as a front man. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On May 10 2013 12:08 negativedge wrote: the player you liked to watch and listen to has himself been nothing but hate and gloating for a solid year and a half now. idra is hate and gloating? I'm not sure what you mean. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
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FoxShine
United States156 Posts
On May 10 2013 12:10 mtn wrote: I'm sorry... But why should EG care what he does in his private life? Does your boss care if u are broke or have a kid on a way or some shit? lol You're acting like its a bad thing for a boss to care about that lmfao.. dumb guy People do care about other people WHOAA SHOCKING | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On May 10 2013 12:08 SOWxDISCORD wrote: I feel sad about how teams seem to be more preoccupied on "educating" players than raising their skills. Honestly, i would understand that people get offended by Greg's statements if the community was made of 13yo emotional girls, but it isn't. Idra brings so much attention to himself just by being who he is, and that's why i belive EG shot themselves in the dick. Maybe if he joins a team that actually tries to make him a better player and not a better person, he can get into shape and begin to show good games. Yea fuck EG for encouraging him to see a counselor. Shame on them for trying to lift his spirits. He obviously just needs to dive even further into the game that stresses him out. That will fix it. Community is so shameless, not wanting a healthy Greg but a Korean Greg. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On May 10 2013 12:10 Xahhk wrote: He's the face of EG essentially. Why should they keep someone who taunts and mocks the 'customer base'?. Why does everyone like to reduce everything into something exaggerated like the community is crying over words? Because the whole hype about Idra is based on his behavior. As he said, that is what they are paying him for. Well were. Just look at the size of this thread. I'd like to see that happen if it was anyone else. | ||
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On May 10 2013 12:12 Whatson wrote: lol? It's IdrA that doesn't reflect EG very well. If anything, EG got rid of a guy who indeed was their front man, but who was also giving off a bad public image as a front man. I meant that Idra gave me a bad vibe of EG, and I am glad they finally got rid of him. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On May 10 2013 12:10 Whatson wrote: Just reading through the IdrA fanclub makes me realize how blindly some people will defend him. If you believe everything they say, IdrA is at heart one of the most lovable people out there who cares deeply about his fans and is really only BM/complaining because it draws viewers. I was going to make a joke about "Stockholm Syndrome" but given where this thread has gone already I don't think that would have contributed much. Honestly, though, I'd imagine that he does at some level genuinely appreciate the fans who want to see him succeed. Furthermore, I'm sure that's a large number of them, even if some people do watch just to see the bad behavior. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On May 10 2013 12:14 achan1058 wrote: I meant that Idra gave me a bad vibe of EG, and I am glad they finally got rid of him. Oh okay, I totally misread your post | ||
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Sokrates
738 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:59 TheExile19 wrote: I'm requoting this because it's an excellent point/rebuttal - I didn't say people do only care about results, only that they should heavily be taken into account before mythologizing mediocre players. it's not a contradiction of my viewpoint at all to say that I don't get the interest in the NA scene, exactly because of that lack of results. - have you considered that I enjoy these sorts of threads because I enjoy speaking truth to dumb? please consider how you factor in both of the threads that applies to. I also enjoy helping a good and angry mob throw torches at assholes, which, again, idra and destiny sitting in a tree. edit: dude, there's a lot more I could go into here, but do you not see any difference between being interested in the narrative of an angry, childish man's success and the narrative of his fall? it's a victory for everyone but idra and his fanbase, which is by far the minority in 2013. That is basically what i said? Thanks for proven my point by admitting it yourself. That is what is wrong with this community, people like you enjoy it way to much being a part of an angry mob and throw torches. Basically you arent any better than the persons you throw torches at, acutally you are even worse because you only feel strong when there is a big mob throwing torches at a single person when you are anonymous and dont have to face consequenzes itself. Out for the drama to grab pitchforks. So what exactly is wrong with my post here when you legitimate it by your own words. Hilarous. Prime example for the community being toxic. It is not a victory for everybody but idra and his fanbase. It is just sad how righteous, bigot and hypocritical people are able to have a toxic effect in a community. Just here for the torchthrowing, wow we need more people like you, in only for torch throwing. Sad. | ||
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