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On May 10 2013 11:26 CypherX wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote:
I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him. That's called hearsay. I heard from a close personal friend of yours that your full of shit? Confirm? See how that doesn't quiet work?
Take it as you may. I can't 100% confirm what was said. However, EG did INFACT bring in a psychologist for him... That is FACT. Not to mention he broke Astro headphones after losing to Dragon, and called him a "faggot." Not to mention all the rage he does and abusive to EG's fan base. "you're all a bunch of fucks." "losers." Etc. So w/e. Boss.
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A lot of this just saddens me. Best of luck to IdrA for the future. People need to leave it at that and just stop with the flaming of him already. I've seen lots of, "karma's a bitch" comments, I wonder if anyone else sees the irony in that. The attitude in these statements is all bad, so karma will be a bitch in return to you guys then. Be ready.
But seriously, this thread should've been closed a while ago, we all can admit that what IdrA has done isn't healthy for the community, but this isn't healthy for it either. Relax.
On May 10 2013 11:27 SavageReborn wrote:
Greg was the first player that I was a "fan" of, and a player who I followed and rooted for in all my games. I remember at the start of starcraft 2 I would always watch either streams of his tournament games or vods. I wasn't even a Zerg player back then, I just found him to be a player that was hardworking and at times he would have to vent out his frustration because things were not going the way he wanted them to go.
Over the past few years his results have deteriorated, yet his personality has remained the same. I have always been a fan, but I won't lie when I say that after all these years I was beginning to feel some sense of detachment, due to the way he treated not only his opponents, not only the game, but himself. Everytime Greg would leave a game early or just rage at his opponents or the game, I felt as if he didn't believe in himself, where starcraft became less of a passion that he enjoyed, but a job which he despised. Well his recent comments haven't really helped in that regard, but I guess as a fan I took any other criticism with a grain of salt.
As for this decision to drop him from the team, I fully understand their decision. He was a toxic player, not only to others, but to the image of the team as a whole. If a player is unable to uphold what the team wishes to represent then it is up to the team to try and fix this, which EG have proven to have tried to do, or in the end to release the player. I won't say that it was a good decision, but I understand why it was made. Greg will always be an EG player to me, he is the reason why I started rooting for EG in the first place. To have him gone from the team feels really abnormal, but I guess it was the best both for Greg who probably needed sometime away from the scene anyway, and for the team as a whole.
I wish all the best for both EG and Greg "Idra" Fields, I'll still keep rooting for them both.
This guy has said it very well.
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I may be warned for this post but idra's problem has been his immaturity as a 20 something adult.
The way he behaves to the community, to the players, is/was absolutely unacceptable. You are allowed to be yourself, it is perfectly acceptable to use profanity here and there, create a persona, but the way he continues to do it on a constant basis to non-EG members, handles his fans/critiques and his in-game attitude (ie. telling someone to get cancer? really Greg??) is pathetic. For EG it'shard because he does generate $, but it's a classy move on their part. He hurts their image, and their reputation.
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On May 10 2013 11:23 IMMABEASTBRUH wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:22 InfCereal wrote:On May 10 2013 11:20 TheProphet_ wrote:
Thank god! I hated EG for supporting such a terrible and negative person who spent his time spilling hatred and bad vibes around. If he was any good it might justify keeping him but its been years since he could even beat anyone. Now i can be neutral towards EG. "Any good" being the best american player for several years. I never understood the SC2 community's mindset on player skill. Even at his peak, this was debatable. He hasn't done will in a major event in two years.
at his peak he was one of the best sc2 players, not just foreigners.
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On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote:
I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him.
I'm sorry, but what you are saying is totally unfounded without proof. This goes even further than the ranting that has gone on in this thread. This is a crime. If you are claiming this actually happened, proof, police, and get it sorted. Even better, dont bring it up in the first place on a forum with thousands of readers. This is just fabrication unless there is proof. And like i said, its a crime, so proof should go to police, not to here.
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On May 10 2013 11:27 MadProbe wrote:
You let the haters bully you into firing your greatest asset -- for a one-line post that hardly anyone knew about.
Smart.
To be fair, we have not idea what 'the real' reason is for letting IdrA go.
Maybe it's something they've been contemplating for months. Maybe IdrA called EG.Alex a fucktard over the phone. We don't know.
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On May 10 2013 11:12 Erosive wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:03 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 11:01 Jornada wrote:
Everybody who EG signs goes down hill....
IdrA needs time away from game i think as well. yeah just like suppy & demuslim right? Just because suppy did good in one group doesn't make up for his overall results which are basically none. Demuslim is NA's favourite, that's about it. Lackluster skill, as soon as he meets a Korean on ladder you can see how silly of a player his is.
Yes as "soon" as Demuslim meets Koreans he loses.
Any other facts you'd like to pull out of your ass? Demuslim beats Polt all the time in TvT, Hyun, lots of good Koreans. Alot of them are barcodes as well.
He recently destroyed some Chinese players as well. The only player he has difficulty with seemingly is Byun. I doubt that he's alone in that.
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On May 10 2013 07:38 RemarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:On May 10 2013 07:35 Zanzabarr wrote:
idrA was such a shit player. Worst attitude in e-sports world wide. Understandable that they booted his ass off the team. iNcontroL is doing his best to prop up idrA's shinking ship, but it's not all that believable. 1 year from now, idrA best burger flipper NA. 105 posts and then call one of the greatest players a burger flipper even though he probably earns 10 times your salary =). stay classy. Earned*
One of the most popular players*
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Can any1 tell me exactly what Idra said? Or did.
And where?
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On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote:
I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him.
Don't spread rumours like that. It's a very serious accusation.
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On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote:
I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him.
You better post a reliable source or you should edit this as fast as you can.
On topic: I support this move from EG, because I believe Idra in his current form was not acceptable for EG (judging from his result AND his actions). But, even though I dislike him as a person, I sincerely hope Idra finds something in his life, which makes him actually happy.
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On May 10 2013 11:22 TheExile19 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:13 Sokrates wrote:
No i accept that we are all of human nature and we all have our flaws. Some have less flaws some have more, nobody is perfect. Nobody is the ideal human being and most of the stuff you see in public of famous athlets is only because the public wants them to be that way, not the person itself wants to behave that way. That is oppression for me. Someone using force on another person to behave in a different way because otherwise he/she has to face consequences, and losing a job is a big consequence and not just a slap on the wrist. But people outside have an easy time to see heads roll because they are not in that situation. I dislike a lot of players in the sc2 community for whatever reason, but the last thing i d do is msg their sponsors and get them kicked out of a team. Unlike you i dont want everybody to be a faceless PCcreature that wirtes "gg" everytime and follows the society becaue they have to instead of being themselves.
1) i never say gg, lies and slander 2) there's a distinct irony in you saying there is no ideal human/society under the ID sokrates 3) part of the implicit social contract of being a celebrity is that you don't be a douche, or if you do, you produce results. I guess idra probably could have continued on if he won WCS AM, otherwise this was written in the stars. 4) your "argument" from what people apparently want to behave like rests on an incredibly flimsy assumption to the point where it ceases to be an argument and is just an opinion. you also made this same argument last year that is still suffering from the same pathetic fallacy, i.e. what about his feelings maaaaaaaaaaaan?!. I don't give a shit about his feelings or his intent, like just about any adult I care about his results and what he shows, and what he continues to show is that he doesn't belong in a growing scene skill-wise or attitude-wise. sorry fans, I feel worse for you than I do for idra, who is a perfectly capable individual who isn't going to be on the street because of this.
1. Same here or very rarely.
2. I used to call me little brother ironically sokrates, but then i liked the nick for myself.
3. So you say "act like a douche all you want if you bring in results." Interesting view.
4. If you only care about results, why the fuck do you care when somebody says something offensive? And by that standard nobody should give a fuck about the NA scene at all because nobody produces the results that acutally justify barely any attention at all. By that standard we should only care about the korean scene and a handfull of foreigners.
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On May 10 2013 11:30 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:23 IMMABEASTBRUH wrote:On May 10 2013 11:22 InfCereal wrote:On May 10 2013 11:20 TheProphet_ wrote:
Thank god! I hated EG for supporting such a terrible and negative person who spent his time spilling hatred and bad vibes around. If he was any good it might justify keeping him but its been years since he could even beat anyone. Now i can be neutral towards EG. "Any good" being the best american player for several years. I never understood the SC2 community's mindset on player skill. Even at his peak, this was debatable. He hasn't done will in a major event in two years. at his peak he was one of the best sc2 players, not just foreigners.
That makes me laugh. FruitDealer has left the building everyone!
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On May 10 2013 11:27 InfCereal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote:
I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him. My dad works for Nintendo.
i know why Wade Lawson was shot.
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On May 10 2013 11:29 StevenWang wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:26 CypherX wrote:On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote:
I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him. That's called hearsay. I heard from a close personal friend of yours that your full of shit? Confirm? See how that doesn't quiet work? Take it as you may. I can't 100% confirm what was said. However, EG did INFACT bring in a psychologist for him... That is FACT. Not to mention he broke Astro headphones after losing to Dragon, and called him a "faggot." Not to mention all the rage he does and abusive to EG's fan base. "you're all a bunch of fucks." "losers." Etc. So w/e. Boss.
SPORTS psycologhist. And being BM on the internet does not = beating your girlfriend.
Stop spreading rumours that are totally unfounded.
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On May 10 2013 11:24 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:12 iNcontroL wrote:On May 10 2013 11:08 BakedButters wrote:
Lost respect for Incontrol. I dont understand why you would support his behavior. True he is popular because of it, but he will eventually cross the line. Instead should of tried to help him get in a better mental state while still being edgy Lost respect for me because I didn't "fix" idra? And how did I support IdrA's behavior? O_O Geoff, is this really a done deal? From watching SoTG today, it seemed like a really sudden move. Talk to your boy, bring him back into the fold!
Geoff doesn't own EG. It's not his call.
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On May 10 2013 11:29 StevenWang wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:26 CypherX wrote:On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote:
I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him. That's called hearsay. I heard from a close personal friend of yours that your full of shit? Confirm? See how that doesn't quiet work? Take it as you may. I can't 100% confirm what was said. However, EG did INFACT bring in a psychologist for him... That is FACT. Not to mention he broke Astro headphones after losing to Dragon, and called him a "faggot." Not to mention all the rage he does and abusive to EG's fan base. "you're all a bunch of fucks." "losers." Etc. So w/e. Boss.
I didn't defend IdrA, he has been asking for this for a long time unfortunately. Nor did I say that the psychologist isn't true. Just your statement I know someone who said this, is not a legal or fair form of accusation/argument, legally it's called "hearsay". All your doing is trying to make it worse for him and stir up drama. I think he has enough on his plate now.
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On May 10 2013 11:12 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:08 BakedButters wrote:
Lost respect for Incontrol. I dont understand why you would support his behavior. True he is popular because of it, but he will eventually cross the line. Instead should of tried to help him get in a better mental state while still being edgy Lost respect for me because I didn't "fix" idra? And how did I support IdrA's behavior? O_O
Don't mind him, the way you handled getting the news live was beautiful. Everyone in their right mind gained respect for you after that.
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Good for EG. I will actually cheer for them from now on. This is a great step towards getting more respect from the community.
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