On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote: I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him.
I'm sorry, but what you are saying is totally unfounded without proof. This goes even further than the ranting that has gone on in this thread. This is a crime. If you are claiming this actually happened, proof, police, and get it sorted. Even better, dont bring it up in the first place on a forum with thousands of readers. This is just fabrication unless there is proof. And like i said, its a crime, so proof should go to police, not to here.
Did I state it as fact? No. Did it come from MY mouth, no. I stated he has a mental problem. Anyone that calls people faggot, and breaks things over a game is mentally not stable. It's a video game bro... You wanna net money? Play better. Don't use your words to bring down others or bring in views. This isn't drama. This is about skill. Let him keeping his t.v.show on twitch, who cares. He wont net what Life does in a year. His earnings this year were nothing of what is to be expected of the top sc bw player and a top sc2 player that doesn't take breaks and makes 40k a year. What I said is hearsay, I understand. But EG did publicly state they brought in a psychologist specifically for him. He is deranged, and wouldn't be surprised if he hurts himself or others.
Stop this bullshit already. Go read up on what a sports psychologist is.
On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote: I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him.
That's called hearsay. I heard from a close personal friend of yours that your full of shit? Confirm?
See how that doesn't quiet work?
Take it as you may. I can't 100% confirm what was said. However, EG did INFACT bring in a psychologist for him... That is FACT. Not to mention he broke Astro headphones after losing to Dragon, and called him a "faggot." Not to mention all the rage he does and abusive to EG's fan base. "you're all a bunch of fucks." "losers." Etc. So w/e. Boss.
Sports psychologist, kid. To help him with his mental game. And your full of shit, stop making stuff up about people you don't know.
I guess it's both surprising and not surprising. I was first surprised that EG would release Idra, but then after reading what he did on the WCS and the TL post, it's kind of expected. It's probably the straw that broke the camel's back for EG.
And no, I can't imagine any reasonable team picking him up neither, unless he gives himself to the team for free.
On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote: I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him.
User was warned for this post
Seriouisly mods... a fucking warning? I get a warning for calling slasher out and this guy gets away with a baseless accusation bordering on slander? I mean, come on?!
It's not slander. He's just rumor-milling. Not worth getting worked up about, unless there's evidence to support it.
On May 10 2013 11:28 StarStruck wrote: It's just who the guy is. Perhaps he should get away from gaming in general because assuming what you say is accurate the guy's been like that ever since we met him in BW.
I don't think that's true. Sure, raging in games is one thing, but more recently the commentary about hating playing the game, problems with teammates, and directing anger at basically everyone who watches the game, that's a qualitatively different thing.
Not so sure about that. I've known Greg for a pretty long time and he's always had these type of anger issues.
On May 10 2013 11:20 TheProphet_ wrote: Thank god! I hated EG for supporting such a terrible and negative person who spent his time spilling hatred and bad vibes around. If he was any good it might justify keeping him but its been years since he could even beat anyone. Now i can be neutral towards EG.
"Any good" being the best american player for several years.
I never understood the SC2 community's mindset on player skill.
Even at his peak, this was debatable. He hasn't done will in a major event in two years.
at his peak he was one of the best sc2 players, not just foreigners.
That makes me laugh. FruitDealer has left the building everyone!
just because it was early in the game doesnt mean he wasn't one of the best. come on man.
Those players were easily forgettable though is the point I was trying to make.
On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote: I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him.
I'm sorry, but what you are saying is totally unfounded without proof. This goes even further than the ranting that has gone on in this thread. This is a crime. If you are claiming this actually happened, proof, police, and get it sorted. Even better, dont bring it up in the first place on a forum with thousands of readers. This is just fabrication unless there is proof. And like i said, its a crime, so proof should go to police, not to here.
Did I state it as fact? No. Did it come from MY mouth, no. I stated he has a mental problem. Anyone that calls people faggot, and breaks things over a game is mentally not stable. It's a video game bro...
You need to stop.
People in every sport have outbursts and get upset. They get upset because they care, even though they are just playing games. SC2 is no different.
Take a look at this:
And you can find outbursts from players in every sport. People BM all the time on ladder. Doesn't mean they aren't stable.
IdrA had help from a sports psychologist, not a psychologist. There is a massive difference.
Just about everything that you wrote is despicable. In fact, you should just be banned.
On May 10 2013 11:40 BronzeKnee wrote: IdrA had help from a sports psychologist, not a psychologist. There is a massive difference.
I would just like to add that seeing an actual psychologist doesn't mean you're a dick who beats up your girlfriend either. Just want to make that clear.
On May 10 2013 11:20 TheProphet_ wrote: Thank god! I hated EG for supporting such a terrible and negative person who spent his time spilling hatred and bad vibes around. If he was any good it might justify keeping him but its been years since he could even beat anyone. Now i can be neutral towards EG.
"Any good" being the best american player for several years.
I never understood the SC2 community's mindset on player skill.
Even at his peak, this was debatable. He hasn't done will in a major event in two years.
at his peak he was one of the best sc2 players, not just foreigners.
So you agree it's debatable that he was THE BEST player, ok thanks.
He was never really the best player in the world, but there were times were you might say he was Top 10 in the world. Again, even that was debatable, but still that's a pretty good achievement that shows that at one point, Idra was a solid player
On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote: I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him.
User was warned for this post
Seriouisly mods... a fucking warning? I get a warning for calling slasher out and this guy gets away with a baseless accusation bordering on slander? I mean, come on?!
Is this really surprising to you? Given the amount of times IdrA has been banned I can't see them censoring any IdrA bashing that goes on.
On May 10 2013 11:20 TheProphet_ wrote: Thank god! I hated EG for supporting such a terrible and negative person who spent his time spilling hatred and bad vibes around. If he was any good it might justify keeping him but its been years since he could even beat anyone. Now i can be neutral towards EG.
"Any good" being the best american player for several years.
I never understood the SC2 community's mindset on player skill.
Even at his peak, this was debatable. He hasn't done will in a major event in two years.
at his peak he was one of the best sc2 players, not just foreigners.
That makes me laugh. FruitDealer has left the building everyone!
just because it was early in the game doesnt mean he wasn't one of the best. come on man.
Those players were easily forgettable though is the point I was trying to make.
kind of a random point....
Not really considering we talking about a period where there was a ridiculous amount of change & that's where Greg made his mark so to speak. It flew right by just like vanilla SC beta and all the B.net ladder movement we had within the first year.
On May 10 2013 11:01 Jornada wrote: Everybody who EG signs goes down hill....
IdrA needs time away from game i think as well.
yeah just like suppy & demuslim right?
Just because suppy did good in one group doesn't make up for his overall results which are basically none. Demuslim is NA's favourite, that's about it. Lackluster skill, as soon as he meets a Korean on ladder you can see how silly of a player his is.
Yes as "soon" as Demuslim meets Koreans he loses.
Any other facts you'd like to pull out of your ass? Demuslim beats Polt all the time in TvT, Hyun, lots of good Koreans. Alot of them are barcodes as well.
He recently destroyed some Chinese players as well. The only player he has difficulty with seemingly is Byun. I doubt that he's alone in that.
Demuslim is improving but he's not that level to compete with Koreans yet. And no he doesn't beat Polt all the time, he won like 3-4 games out of a ton.
On May 10 2013 11:20 TheProphet_ wrote: Thank god! I hated EG for supporting such a terrible and negative person who spent his time spilling hatred and bad vibes around. If he was any good it might justify keeping him but its been years since he could even beat anyone. Now i can be neutral towards EG.
"Any good" being the best american player for several years.
I never understood the SC2 community's mindset on player skill.
Even at his peak, this was debatable. He hasn't done will in a major event in two years.
at his peak he was one of the best sc2 players, not just foreigners.
That makes me laugh. FruitDealer has left the building everyone!
just because it was early in the game doesnt mean he wasn't one of the best. come on man.
Those players were easily forgettable though is the point I was trying to make.
kind of a random point....
One of the best in the world? Best in NA probably, in the world is a stretch.
On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote: I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him.
That's called hearsay. I heard from a close personal friend of yours that your full of shit? Confirm?
See how that doesn't quiet work?
Take it as you may. I can't 100% confirm what was said. However, EG did INFACT bring in a psychologist for him... That is FACT. Not to mention he broke Astro headphones after losing to Dragon, and called him a "faggot." Not to mention all the rage he does and abusive to EG's fan base. "you're all a bunch of fucks." "losers." Etc. So w/e. Boss.
I didn't defend IdrA, he has been asking for this for a long time unfortunately. Nor did I say that the psychologist isn't true. Just your statement I know someone who said this, is not a legal or fair form of accusation/argument, legally it's called "hearsay". All your doing is trying to make it worse for him and stir up drama. I think he has enough on his plate now.
And if its not true it is libel. Even if it is true, what does bringing it up in this thread accomplish?
On May 10 2013 11:01 Jornada wrote: Everybody who EG signs goes down hill....
IdrA needs time away from game i think as well.
yeah just like suppy & demuslim right?
Just because suppy did good in one group doesn't make up for his overall results which are basically none. Demuslim is NA's favourite, that's about it. Lackluster skill, as soon as he meets a Korean on ladder you can see how silly of a player his is.
Yes as "soon" as Demuslim meets Koreans he loses.
Any other facts you'd like to pull out of your ass? Demuslim beats Polt all the time in TvT, Hyun, lots of good Koreans. Alot of them are barcodes as well.
He recently destroyed some Chinese players as well. The only player he has difficulty with seemingly is Byun. I doubt that he's alone in that.
Demuslim is improving but he's not that level to compete with Koreans yet. And no he doesn't beat Polt all the time, he won like may 3-4 games out of a ton.
Polt, ByuN are the two players I see him consistently lose games to. Hyun, and barcodes yes.
His comments about the community being a bunch of ****s - while there are a good deal of decent people - is mostly accurate. Just have to read this thread to see
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Just want to make that clear. 
