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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:31 StarStruck wrote: That makes me laugh. FruitDealer has left the building everyone! just because it was early in the game doesnt mean he wasn't one of the best. come on man. | ||
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IMMABEASTBRUH
United States271 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:30 jmbthirteen wrote: at his peak he was one of the best sc2 players, not just foreigners. So you agree it's debatable that he was THE BEST player, ok thanks. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:29 StevenWang wrote: Take it as you may. I can't 100% confirm what was said. However, EG did INFACT bring in a psychologist for him... That is FACT. Not to mention he broke Astro headphones after losing to Dragon, and called him a "faggot." Not to mention all the rage he does and abusive to EG's fan base. "you're all a bunch of fucks." "losers." Etc. So w/e. Boss. Those are all COMPLETELY different things compared to hitting someone. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:31 StarStruck wrote: That makes me laugh. FruitDealer has left the building everyone! Sadly enough, IdrA's peak was probably around the same time as FD's GSL runs, or at least before MVP's 1st. | ||
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
I have no idea what the fuck is going on anymore | ||
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:26 nanaoei wrote: for 12:20~ I'm not sure why the embed isn't working atm. Honestly though, it would be very sad to see Idra stop StarCraft. I remember watching videos of him smiling back in his CJentus days~ that is one of the most awkward and uncomfortable videos i;ve ever seen | ||
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StevenWang
United States33 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:30 Myia wrote: I'm sorry, but what you are saying is totally unfounded without proof. This goes even further than the ranting that has gone on in this thread. This is a crime. If you are claiming this actually happened, proof, police, and get it sorted. Even better, dont bring it up in the first place on a forum with thousands of readers. This is just fabrication unless there is proof. And like i said, its a crime, so proof should go to police, not to here. Did I state it as fact? No. Did it come from MY mouth, no. I stated he has a mental problem. Anyone that calls people faggot, and breaks things over a game is mentally not stable. It's a video game bro... You wanna net money? Play better. Don't use your words to bring down others or bring in views. This isn't drama. This is about skill. Let him keeping his t.v.show on twitch, who cares. He wont net what Life does in a year. His earnings this year were nothing of what is to be expected of the top sc bw player and a top sc2 player that doesn't take breaks and makes 40k a year. What I said is hearsay, I understand. But EG did publicly state they brought in a psychologist specifically for him. He is deranged, and wouldn't be surprised if he hurts himself or others. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:35 StevenWang wrote: Did I state it as fact? No. Did it come from MY mouth, no. I stated he has a mental problem. Anyone that calls people faggot, and breaks things over a game is mentally not stable. It's a video game bro... You wanna net money? Play better. Don't use your words to bring down others or bring in views. This isn't drama. This is about skill. Let him keeping his t.v.show on twitch, who cares. He wont net what Life does in a year. His earnings this year were nothing of what is to be expected of the top sc bw player and a top sc2 player that doesn't take breaks and makes 40k a year. What I said is hearsay, I understand. But EG did publicly state they brought in a psychologist specifically for him. He is deranged, and wouldn't be surprised if he hurts himself or others. Uh it was a phychologist to help him have a better mind set. Not a psychologist because he has mental problems like really are you that dense? | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:28 StarStruck wrote: It's just who the guy is. Perhaps he should get away from gaming in general because assuming what you say is accurate the guy's been like that ever since we met him in BW. I don't think that's true. Sure, raging in games is one thing, but more recently the commentary about hating playing the game, problems with teammates, and directing anger at basically everyone who watches the game, that's a qualitatively different thing. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:34 IMMABEASTBRUH wrote: So you agree it's debatable that he was THE BEST player, ok thanks. being the best american player at his peak is not debatable... | ||
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Wpgstevo
Canada79 Posts
And to a certain extent, Idra is right - he does attract a lot of viewers without performing. I've always found it embarrassing for the community to see Liquid.HerO or [insert great player here] get only a fraction of the viewers Idra does. I think where Incontrol was wrong, was the value of Idra. Especially given this type of release, I think he is akin to a quickly devaluing stock. Someone might be foolish enough to pick it up and cause a slowing in the freefall, but the only person who can turn the course around is Idra - and that isn't by doing things the way he has been. Idra might have been one of the most valuable SC2 players, but he is killing/has killed his value. One of the key parts of getting viewers on stream seems to be exposure. Most players gain exposure by playing well. Some do so by providing other content to the audience (i.e to SC2 community). However, a screaming and kicking child will only get attention for so long, and the exposure will eventually mean nothing when no on wants to hear it anymore. Its one thing to ride a gravy train, but quite another to scream from the top of your lungs how stupid everyone is for letting you do it. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:34 jmbthirteen wrote: just because it was early in the game doesnt mean he wasn't one of the best. come on man. Those players were easily forgettable though is the point I was trying to make. | ||
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Ercster
United States603 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote: I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him. Do you even think before you post? If you're going to make such grand accusations like him hitting individuals, bring compelling evidence not "my friend said he has." It truly is sad that so many people are bashing IdrA. While he hasn't said the best things before, he was always very kind in person. And his influence on the scene was no doubt important in growing it to what it is today. I sincerely hope he does what he really wants to do, whether that be staying in StarCraft, going to school, or whatever. Best wishes to you Greg. | ||
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Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote: I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him. User was warned for this post Seriously mods... a fucking warning? I get a warning for calling slasher out and this guy gets away with a baseless accusation bordering on slander? I mean, come on?! And while im at it, Slasher was being an inconsiderate moron? Incontrol is barely holding himself together and he's sat there with his stupid smug little smile, "ok, well its been 5 minutes, time for the fun part... where's Greg going next!" ... moron | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:35 StevenWang wrote: Did I state it as fact? No. Did it come from MY mouth, no. I stated he has a mental problem. Anyone that calls people faggot, and breaks things over a game is mentally not stable. It's a video game bro... You wanna net money? Play better. Don't use your words to bring down others or bring in views. This isn't drama. This is about skill. Let him keeping his t.v.show on twitch, who cares. He wont net what Life does in a year. His earnings this year were nothing of what is to be expected of the top sc bw player and a top sc2 player that doesn't take breaks and makes 40k a year. What I said is hearsay, I understand. But EG did publicly state they brought in a psychologist specifically for him. He is deranged, and wouldn't be surprised if he hurts himself or others. Are you completely mentally deficient? Heaven forbid someone feel emotion over their hobbies. Jesus fuck. Do people who get teary eyed listening to music have a mental problem too? I'm done. I'm going to get banned if I stay in this thread. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:29 StevenWang wrote: Take it as you may. I can't 100% confirm what was said. However, EG did INFACT bring in a psychologist for him... That is FACT. Not to mention he broke Astro headphones after losing to Dragon, and called him a "faggot." Not to mention all the rage he does and abusive to EG's fan base. "you're all a bunch of fucks." "losers." Etc. So w/e. Boss. Sports psychologist, kid. To help him with his mental game. And your full of shit, stop making stuff up about people you don't know. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:35 StevenWang wrote: Did I state it as fact? No. Did it come from MY mouth, no. I stated he has a mental problem. Anyone that calls people faggot, and breaks things over a game is mentally not stable. It's a video game bro... You wanna net money? Play better. Don't use your words to bring down others or bring in views. This isn't drama. This is about skill. Let him keeping his t.v.show on twitch, who cares. He wont net what Life does in a year. His earnings this year were nothing of what is to be expected of the top sc bw player and a top sc2 player that doesn't take breaks and makes 40k a year. What I said is hearsay, I understand. But EG did publicly state they brought in a psychologist specifically for him. He is deranged, and wouldn't be surprised if he hurts himself or others. You are still avoiding the topic. You are here claiming he hits his girlfriend without any proof. "I heard from x" is most of the time just an imaginary scapegoat to stir up shit. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:36 Lysenko wrote: I don't think that's true. Sure, raging in games is one thing, but more recently the commentary about hating playing the game, problems with teammates, and directing anger at basically everyone who watches the game, that's a qualitatively different thing. The real problem is that we honestly don't see much of real-life Greg. People all know he's really BM and behaves like a dick towards even his own teammates sometimes, but again that's related to the game. Who knows, maybe he's a nice guy in real life away from SC lol | ||
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Hitch-22
Canada753 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:37 Vertigro wrote: Seriouisly mods... a fucking warning? I get a warning for calling slasher out and this guy gets away with a baseless accusation bordering on slander? I mean, come on?! get hangry!!!!! | ||
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Myia
173 Posts
On May 10 2013 11:35 StevenWang wrote: Did I state it as fact? No. Did it come from MY mouth, no. I stated he has a mental problem. Anyone that calls people faggot, and breaks things over a game is mentally not stable. It's a video game bro... You wanna net money? Play better. Don't use your words to bring down others or bring in views. This isn't drama. This is about skill. Let him keeping his t.v.show on twitch, who cares. He wont net what Life does in a year. His earnings this year were nothing of what is to be expected of the top sc bw player and a top sc2 player that doesn't take breaks and makes 40k a year. What I said is hearsay, I understand. But EG did publicly state they brought in a psychologist specifically for him. He is deranged, and wouldn't be surprised if he hurts himself or others. Again sorry, proof on him being deranged? Someone with anger issues is automatically deranged? There was another thread about a guy who was asking for help, cause he raged at sc2. He was a calm person in all his life apart from this. So again, saying someone is deranged is a bit of crap. Thats by the by. The point of my post, is you bringing up the fact that "apparently" he hit his gf, which is total frabrication unless substantiated with proof. You dont have any, (as you admitted to it being hearsay) so dont bother saying it. Kinda simple, no? | ||
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