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Evil Geniuses Releases Greg "IdrA" Fields - Page 88

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Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
May 10 2013 02:22 GMT
#1741
On May 10 2013 11:15 TheExile19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:11 Lysenko wrote:
On May 10 2013 11:06 snakeeyez wrote:
It just kind of feels like they should have told him whatever he was doing wrong and let him try to change it first.


The EG folks have been working with Idra for years on these types of issues, trying to reduce their frequency.


if this is actually true, I really hope we've seen the last of him. I assumed he got free rein and this was the result, but...this is idra after attempted reform? that is the definition of toxic player and toxic attitude, and regardless of past accomplishments, you can't be a shitlord to the community and your team without actually producing anything.


Well, as I said a couple pages ago, I would guess that what we see of Idra's behavior is a reflection of stuff going on either elsewhere in his life or just internally. His behavior causes all kinds of problems for the people around him, but it's always possible that he'll be able to pull things together at some point. A lot of people go through bad times in their lives and get past them.

So, I won't fault EG for their decision, I'll appreciate what Idra has in fact done for the Starcraft scene over the years, and I'll hope for him to find better times in his own life, however he has to do that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
May 10 2013 02:23 GMT
#1742
No one ever wants to do this kind of thing to someone who has been there for years. I'm sure EG and idra were on good terms throughout the whole time he was there. However, teams will always look in the best interests of their team. If letting idra go will help the team out, then it has to happen. This kind of thing happens in many sports teams.
PviLLe3
Profile Joined January 2012
United States305 Posts
May 10 2013 02:23 GMT
#1743
you guys think he still gets fired if he advanced in his group yesterday?
IMMABEASTBRUH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States271 Posts
May 10 2013 02:23 GMT
#1744
On May 10 2013 11:22 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:20 TheProphet_ wrote:
Thank god! I hated EG for supporting such a terrible and negative person who spent his time spilling hatred and bad vibes around. If he was any good it might justify keeping him but its been years since he could even beat anyone. Now i can be neutral towards EG.


"Any good" being the best american player for several years.

I never understood the SC2 community's mindset on player skill.


Even at his peak, this was debatable. He hasn't done will in a major event in two years.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
May 10 2013 02:24 GMT
#1745
On May 10 2013 11:12 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:08 BakedButters wrote:
Lost respect for Incontrol. I dont understand why you would support his behavior. True he is popular because of it, but he will eventually cross the line. Instead should of tried to help him get in a better mental state while still being edgy


Lost respect for me because I didn't "fix" idra? And how did I support IdrA's behavior?

O_O


Geoff, is this really a done deal?

From watching SoTG today, it seemed like a really sudden move. Talk to your boy, bring him back into the fold!
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
May 10 2013 02:24 GMT
#1746
On May 10 2013 11:23 PviLLe3 wrote:
you guys think he still gets fired if he advanced in his group yesterday?


no, he probably wouldnt have said that if he made it through his group
Sc2 always got your back
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 10 2013 02:25 GMT
#1747
On May 10 2013 11:12 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:08 BakedButters wrote:
Lost respect for Incontrol. I dont understand why you would support his behavior. True he is popular because of it, but he will eventually cross the line. Instead should of tried to help him get in a better mental state while still being edgy


Lost respect for me because I didn't "fix" idra? And how did I support IdrA's behavior?

O_O


Don't listen to him! You're damn awesome man! Idra is just upsetting people because of his lack of results--they'd be on his crotch in a second if he had won MLG's or Dreamhacks, but the truth is that those are almost impossible to win also due to Korean dominance.

Its an unfair hand to be dealt, and I hope he finds something that makes him happy--but don't mind these haters; you're still the heart of EG!
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
May 10 2013 02:25 GMT
#1748
On May 10 2013 11:22 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:20 TheProphet_ wrote:
Thank god! I hated EG for supporting such a terrible and negative person who spent his time spilling hatred and bad vibes around. If he was any good it might justify keeping him but its been years since he could even beat anyone. Now i can be neutral towards EG.


"Any good" being the best american player several years ago.

I never understood the SC2 community's mindset on player skill.


Fixed. This is really how your statement should read. He hasn't been relevant for a long time competitively.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
StevenWang
Profile Joined December 2012
United States33 Posts
May 10 2013 02:25 GMT
#1749
I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him.

User was warned for this post
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nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 02:28:22
May 10 2013 02:26 GMT
#1750

for 12:20~
I'm not sure why the embed isn't working atm.

Honestly though, it would be very sad to see Idra stop StarCraft.
I remember watching videos of him smiling back in his CJentus days~
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
CypherX
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 02:28:15
May 10 2013 02:26 GMT
#1751
On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote:
I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him.

That's called hearsay.
I heard from a close personal friend of yours that your full of shit?
Confirm?

See how that doesn't quite work?
Don't learn to play, Play to learn
SavageReborn
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 02:29:15
May 10 2013 02:27 GMT
#1752
I guess it's time to finally use up my 100th post:

Greg was the first player that I was a "fan" of, and a player who I followed and rooted for in all my games. I remember at the start of starcraft 2 I would always watch either streams of his tournament games or vods. I wasn't even a Zerg player back then, I just found him to be a player that was hardworking and at times he would have to vent out his frustration because things were not going the way he wanted them to go.

Over the past few years his results have deteriorated, yet his personality has remained the same. I have always been a fan, but I won't lie when I say that after all these years I was beginning to feel some sense of detachment, due to the way he treated not only his opponents, not only the game, but himself. Everytime Greg would leave a game early or just rage at his opponents or the game, I felt as if he didn't believe in himself, where starcraft became less of a passion that he enjoyed, but a job which he despised. Well his recent comments haven't really helped in that regard, but I guess as a fan I took any other criticism with a grain of salt.

As for this decision to drop him from the team, I fully understand their decision. He was a toxic player, not only to others, but to the image of the team as a whole. If a player is unable to uphold what the team wishes to represent then it is up to the team to try and fix this, which EG have proven to have tried to do, or in the end to release the player. I won't say that it was a good decision, but I understand why it was made. Greg will always be an EG player to me, he is the reason why I started rooting for EG in the first place. To have him gone from the team feels really abnormal, but I guess it was the best both for Greg who probably needed sometime away from the scene anyway, and for the team as a whole.

I wish all the best for both EG and Greg "Idra" Fields, I'll still keep rooting for them both.
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
May 10 2013 02:27 GMT
#1753
On May 10 2013 11:25 StevenWang wrote:
I heard from a close friend of Katy Torg that he has hit her and got physical with her. He needs mental help, and it is clear as day. EG cannot help him, they tried. Even hired a psychiatrist for him.


My dad works for Nintendo.
Cereal
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
May 10 2013 02:27 GMT
#1754
On May 10 2013 11:25 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Don't listen to him! You're damn awesome man! Idra is just upsetting people because of his lack of results--they'd be on his crotch in a second if he had won MLG's or Dreamhacks


Naniwa did quite well at Dreamhack, but he's still a guy with a lot of impulse control and mood problems that make him not very likeable. I don't think winning fixes that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
MadProbe
Profile Joined February 2012
United States269 Posts
May 10 2013 02:27 GMT
#1755
You let the haters bully you into firing your greatest asset -- for a one-line post that hardly anyone knew about.

Smart.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
May 10 2013 02:27 GMT
#1756
I'm glad this happened and am surprised it didn't happen sooner. The guy is nothing but a negative. He's not getting better, he's not making improvements, and he never even talks about being better. He is always spiteful and hateful and only talks about how much he hates the game that pays his bills. I sincerely hope no team or sponsors want to sign him because these things will not change, but I find that doubtful.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 10 2013 02:28 GMT
#1757
On May 10 2013 11:22 Lysenko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:15 TheExile19 wrote:
On May 10 2013 11:11 Lysenko wrote:
On May 10 2013 11:06 snakeeyez wrote:
It just kind of feels like they should have told him whatever he was doing wrong and let him try to change it first.


The EG folks have been working with Idra for years on these types of issues, trying to reduce their frequency.


if this is actually true, I really hope we've seen the last of him. I assumed he got free rein and this was the result, but...this is idra after attempted reform? that is the definition of toxic player and toxic attitude, and regardless of past accomplishments, you can't be a shitlord to the community and your team without actually producing anything.


Well, as I said a couple pages ago, I would guess that what we see of Idra's behavior is a reflection of stuff going on either elsewhere in his life or just internally. His behavior causes all kinds of problems for the people around him, but it's always possible that he'll be able to pull things together at some point. A lot of people go through bad times in their lives and get past them.

So, I won't fault EG for their decision, I'll appreciate what Idra has in fact done for the Starcraft scene over the years, and I'll hope for him to find better times in his own life, however he has to do that.


It's just who the guy is. Perhaps he should get away from gaming in general because assuming what you say is accurate the guy's been like that ever since we met him in BW. Shit man. I don't see how people still don't get that and I'm pretty sure they knew what they were getting with him unlike SDM when he brought him into the eSTRO house. lol That tournament Dan and SDM hosted was hilarious because SDM blew a gasket when he found out about IdrA rage.
Hammer442
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia749 Posts
May 10 2013 02:28 GMT
#1758
On May 10 2013 11:24 Conut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:23 PviLLe3 wrote:
you guys think he still gets fired if he advanced in his group yesterday?


no, he probably wouldnt have said that if he made it through his group

What he said on TL was said before his groups yesterday.
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
May 10 2013 02:29 GMT
#1759
Him and Destiny should team up and take down LoL.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
Names
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada328 Posts
May 10 2013 02:29 GMT
#1760
wow... honestly never thought this would happen. I am shocked. Hope some team picks him up and perhaps he makes a comeback!
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