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Evil Geniuses Releases Greg "IdrA" Fields - Page 86

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HerbMon
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States467 Posts
May 10 2013 02:12 GMT
#1701
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! =( hope he still plays and streams.
How we will win in the period ahead.
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
May 10 2013 02:12 GMT
#1702
On May 10 2013 11:10 Whatson wrote:
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On May 10 2013 11:08 BakedButters wrote:
Lost respect for Incontrol. I dont understand why you would support his behavior. True he is popular because of it, but he will eventually cross the line. Instead should of tried to help him get in a better mental state while still being edgy

Are you kidding me? They tried everything for 2 years.


Idra continue to push the limits of his BM. If he is helpless, then why did Incontrol believe he can go get another team if he promises them he will try to change and post good results.

Either way EG did the right move to wake him up
Snute <3 Bomber <3 Parting <3 Life <3
Missing-No
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada50 Posts
May 10 2013 02:12 GMT
#1703
On May 10 2013 11:03 NovemberstOrm wrote:
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On May 10 2013 11:01 Jornada wrote:
Everybody who EG signs goes down hill....

IdrA needs time away from game i think as well.

yeah just like suppy & demuslim right?



Just because suppy did good in one group doesn't make up for his overall results which are basically none. Demuslim is NA's favourite, that's about it. Lackluster skill, as soon as he meets a Korean on ladder you can see how silly of a player his is.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 10 2013 02:12 GMT
#1704
On May 10 2013 11:08 BakedButters wrote:
Lost respect for Incontrol. I dont understand why you would support his behavior. True he is popular because of it, but he will eventually cross the line. Instead should of tried to help him get in a better mental state while still being edgy


Lost respect for me because I didn't "fix" idra? And how did I support IdrA's behavior?

O_O
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
May 10 2013 02:12 GMT
#1705
better late then never i guess, telling ppl he hopes they get cancer and what not is just outright disgusting and this should have been taking care of a long time ago.
in it for the game not for the .... - PMS Army. [WUFC-SDK. VIM. PMS]
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
May 10 2013 02:12 GMT
#1706
On May 10 2013 11:11 NovemberstOrm wrote:
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On May 10 2013 11:10 snakeeyez wrote:
I never personally got the impression idra never liked SC 2 I mean he spends most of his days playing it nonstop which I think speaks a lot louder then the stuff he says. You cant take what he says seriously he is just joking around but I am sure some anal people probably take it literally and go tell their mom or whatever.
Idra says SC 2 is not as good as BW and that is arguable but you cant tell him he is wrong.

I'm sure he liked it in the beginning but he hasn't liked it in a long time, he's even said this in an interview or w/e

Nonono he's just joking! He really loves the game and cares a lot and really thinks Zerg is OP!
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 02:17:02
May 10 2013 02:13 GMT
#1707
On May 10 2013 11:02 TheExile19 wrote:
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On May 10 2013 10:53 Sokrates wrote:

Yes i think people are being oppressed when everyone is getting out their pitchforks if they say or do something "bad" like stephano , destiny or idra. Or dont you think it is non oppressive if someone says something others might get offended by (what destiny or stephano did wasnt even meant for the public" yet some people grab their pitchforks and want them to be fired/punished. IS that non "oppressive" to you?


I'm just going to quote a PM I sent to someone during this exact same discussion with destiny last year that encapsulates my opinions on where the responsibilities of players and sponsors/teams lie.

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well, no. I don't think that morals create opportunities, I think morals or the appearance of morals can sustain opportunities in communities where public conception of morality is fairly vanilla and unaccepting of deviance. nobody gave destiny a chance because they thought he was a saint, and nobody expects him to be one, they just expect him to not say and do unsupportable things; the continuation of that initial opportunity is dependent on him not fucking it up for himself by being a racist or a mildly sexist nude picture distributor.

going from there, I do think that e-sports should generally be a reflection of the greater progressive society, and I'm not convinced that destiny can thrive in an environment like that. whether his sponsors really cared is kind of irrelevant, because they're forced to kowtow to the same standards of morality that they're simultaneously upholding, willingly or not.


my essential problem with your consistent view on these reoccurring issues is that you utterly shift responsibility from idra's behavior to the society that punishes him. real issue discrimination/unfair discrimination stems from deeply flawed views (women/black people/gay people are stupid and immoral by default!) and does not allow real debate or responses that can help the victim, i.e. a gay man gets fired from his job for nothing but being gay. he cannot change his sexuality.

idra can stop being a silly little bitch and take some of that EG money to go see a psychiatrist, and he apparently hasn't tried or succeeded in the years he's had to effect change. his long-term health for the scene and his career apparently isn't as important as ignoring those issues or conflating them into himself, into some sort of anti-PC bogeyman/rage specter to appeal to teenagers and emotionally stunted drama queens.


No i accept that we are all of human nature and we all have our flaws. Some have less flaws some have more, nobody is perfect. Nobody is the ideal human being and most of the stuff you see in public of famous athlets is only because the public wants them to be that way, not the person itself wants to behave that way. That is oppression for me. Someone using force on another person to behave in a different way because otherwise he/she has to face consequences, and losing a job is a big consequence and not just a slap on the wrist. But people outside have an easy time to see heads roll because they are not in that situation. I dislike a lot of players in the sc2 community for whatever reason, but the last thing i d do is msg their sponsors and get them kicked out of a team. Unlike you i dont want everybody to be a faceless PCcreature that wirtes "gg" everytime and follows the society becaue they have to instead of being themselves.

I m a really tolerant person, and not just tolerant to those where we are obligated to be tolerant (because now society wants us to, as you know that wasnt always the case). I m tolerant to human nature, and that is why i prefer "realness" over a fake person that never shows his/her real face.
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
May 10 2013 02:13 GMT
#1708
On May 10 2013 11:08 BakedButters wrote:
Lost respect for Incontrol. I dont understand why you would support his behavior. True he is popular because of it, but he will eventually cross the line. Instead should of tried to help him get in a better mental state while still being edgy

The worst thing was when InControl said on SotG that he(Idra) is pretty intelligent.If he is that Intelligent he would have knew the consequences before he said something like that.
Extreme Force
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 10 2013 02:13 GMT
#1709
On May 10 2013 11:12 Erosive wrote:
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On May 10 2013 11:03 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 11:01 Jornada wrote:
Everybody who EG signs goes down hill....

IdrA needs time away from game i think as well.

yeah just like suppy & demuslim right?



Just because suppy did good in one group doesn't make up for his overall results which are basically none. Demuslim is NA's favourite, that's about it. Lackluster skill, as soon as he meets a Korean on ladder you can see how silly of a player his is.

look at his results im not just talking about 1 tournament. do you not remember how he almost beat parting at bwc?
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
May 10 2013 02:13 GMT
#1710
On May 10 2013 11:12 Erosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:03 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 11:01 Jornada wrote:
Everybody who EG signs goes down hill....

IdrA needs time away from game i think as well.

yeah just like suppy & demuslim right?



Just because suppy did good in one group doesn't make up for his overall results which are basically none. Demuslim is NA's favourite, that's about it. Lackluster skill, as soon as he meets a Korean on ladder you can see how silly of a player his is.

LOL Suppy hasn't had any overall results? DeMuslim sucks on ladder? You just shot yourself in the foot right there.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
May 10 2013 02:13 GMT
#1711
On May 10 2013 11:08 BakedButters wrote:
Lost respect for Incontrol. I dont understand why you would support his behavior. True he is popular because of it, but he will eventually cross the line. Instead should of tried to help him get in a better mental state while still being edgy


Are you kidding me? Incontrol said repeatedly that EG was working very hard with him to fix his mind set. They hired a sports psychologist for him. THAT IS NOT CHEAP. Incontrol personally is one of idra's best friends. Get your head out of your ass.
Long live the Boss Toss!
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
May 10 2013 02:13 GMT
#1712
I'm sitting on the edge of my seat for the next IdrA interview.. what is he going to do with gaming!???!?!?!? ROOTIdrA? (jk)
since 98'
UltiBahamut
Profile Joined October 2010
United States102 Posts
May 10 2013 02:13 GMT
#1713
Well i can completely understand why EG released him, and i can understand incontrol's reaction on SotG. He crossed the line and i feel as though EG is completely within their right.

I was always a big fan of his play since i started playing zerg when sc2 came out, but he always had a bad attitude that needed to be fixed. EG simply wont be the same without him but i do hope Idra finds where he belongs. Either way i will still root for EG as i just love them all
"Thats Halo, Dont worry" Huk
faiza
Profile Joined June 2012
United States451 Posts
May 10 2013 02:15 GMT
#1714
Welp. Can't say this is surprising news regarding Idra.

Worst thing in this situation is EG not letting Incontrol know and letting him get blindsided live.
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
May 10 2013 02:15 GMT
#1715
On May 10 2013 11:11 Lysenko wrote:
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On May 10 2013 11:06 snakeeyez wrote:
It just kind of feels like they should have told him whatever he was doing wrong and let him try to change it first.


The EG folks have been working with Idra for years on these types of issues, trying to reduce their frequency.


if this is actually true, I really hope we've seen the last of him. I assumed he got free rein and this was the result, but...this is idra after attempted reform? that is the definition of toxic player and toxic attitude, and regardless of past accomplishments, you can't be a shitlord to the community and your team without actually producing anything.
Missing-No
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada50 Posts
May 10 2013 02:16 GMT
#1716
On May 10 2013 11:13 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:12 Erosive wrote:
On May 10 2013 11:03 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 11:01 Jornada wrote:
Everybody who EG signs goes down hill....

IdrA needs time away from game i think as well.

yeah just like suppy & demuslim right?



Just because suppy did good in one group doesn't make up for his overall results which are basically none. Demuslim is NA's favourite, that's about it. Lackluster skill, as soon as he meets a Korean on ladder you can see how silly of a player his is.

look at his results im not just talking about 1 tournament. do you not remember how he almost beat parting at bwc?


... thanks for confirming my statement
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
May 10 2013 02:16 GMT
#1717
On May 10 2013 11:15 faiza wrote:
Worst thing in this situation is EG not letting Incontrol know and letting him get blindsided live.


From what they said on SOTG, Incontrol was (nearly, if not actually) the second to learn of it, after Idra. I'd say it's respectful toward Idra for him to hear it first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
RoyaleBrainSlug
Profile Joined December 2010
United States295 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 02:17:10
May 10 2013 02:16 GMT
#1718
On May 10 2013 11:12 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:08 BakedButters wrote:
Lost respect for Incontrol. I dont understand why you would support his behavior. True he is popular because of it, but he will eventually cross the line. Instead should of tried to help him get in a better mental state while still being edgy


Lost respect for me because I didn't "fix" idra? And how did I support IdrA's behavior?

O_O


You'll never win, iNcontroL.
Zileas is my Homeboy
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
May 10 2013 02:17 GMT
#1719
On May 10 2013 11:16 Erosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:13 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 11:12 Erosive wrote:
On May 10 2013 11:03 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 11:01 Jornada wrote:
Everybody who EG signs goes down hill....

IdrA needs time away from game i think as well.

yeah just like suppy & demuslim right?



Just because suppy did good in one group doesn't make up for his overall results which are basically none. Demuslim is NA's favourite, that's about it. Lackluster skill, as soon as he meets a Korean on ladder you can see how silly of a player his is.

look at his results im not just talking about 1 tournament. do you not remember how he almost beat parting at bwc?


... thanks for confirming my statement

Fine... if not parting, what about Ryung and Heart?
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baba1
Profile Joined April 2005
Canada355 Posts
May 10 2013 02:17 GMT
#1720
About time being bm does not get rewarded.
Good ridance in my opinion.
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