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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
May 10 2013 01:57 GMT
#1661
On May 10 2013 10:49 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:41 LeopoldStotch wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:33 RoboSnail wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:29 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:27 badDogma wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:
[quote]
lol is this a post

what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra

ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never)

That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times


i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra

he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol.

you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently.

this whole situation is ridiculous


why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same?


because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth

people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream."

it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole.

but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago.



I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired.

Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat.


nice baseless personal attack bro. unfortunately it didnt really add anything to your post to make it believable

and just to expand a bit, yes idra is whiny, but so are plenty of other players. idra just vocalizes it more. its part of the character that a lot of people like and its honestly why eg is even a popular team at this point. without idra they [probably] would be nothing right now in sc2


Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.


Oh shit, when did Starcraft become professional wrestling?


somewhere in between 2011 and 2012. Seriously.


not that there is anything wrong with Pro Wrestling.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 10 2013 01:57 GMT
#1662
On May 10 2013 10:54 CrowDOTA wrote:
Irresponsible on Garfield's part not to inform his players beforehand. I feel like IdrA could have really improved, if he had a dedicated practice schedule and a slight change in attitude.

It's been way too long. He was given an extra lax treatment considering how important he was to the team, but he's had way more than enough chances
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 02:05:29
May 10 2013 01:57 GMT
#1663
Knew this would happen sooner or later. Not gonna go about why it happened again, it's obvious for anyone who's a not blind fanboy.
I also agree with this decision.

Now I wonder what Idra is gonna do.
He's in terrible form SC2 wise and didn't improved for at least 6 months. He just can't win anything for a long time and now, wnen even regional WCS is packed with koreans, it's gonna be even harder.
He's not too old yet, 23 or 24 if I'm not wrong, so in theory he can play for a few more years. But, it's the best time to retire esports before it's too late to start a life outside of it.
Must be a tough choice, get some easy money streaming (he still will have tons of viewers) like Destiny, before he will be forgotten completely or abandon free cash and move forward.

If he'll choose to stay, it would be interesting what team will be bold enough to sign him. They will get publicity and viewers, but not just this, Idra comes with some "bonuses" which most of the teams would love to avoid I believe.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
May 10 2013 01:58 GMT
#1664
On May 10 2013 10:57 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:54 CrowDOTA wrote:
Irresponsible on Garfield's part not to inform his players beforehand. I feel like IdrA could have really improved, if he had a dedicated practice schedule and a slight change in attitude.

It's been way too long. He was given an extra lax treatment considering how important he was to the team, but he's had way more than enough chances

The thing that's really sad for me is that a lot of people said he was doing much better towards the end of WoL.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
TheAsianThing
Profile Joined December 2011
United States12 Posts
May 10 2013 01:58 GMT
#1665

http://i.imgur.com/s9xl2Kb.jpg

I never enjoyed his stream because I always thought it never proved to be entertaining to watch somebody bitch and whine about the game. Good decision made by EG, even though he was one of the known faces but hopefully EG will be known by picking up great players like Suppy and DeMuslim. And best of luck to IdrA, he's going to need it if he wants to continue to make money.
Play to improve
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
May 10 2013 02:00 GMT
#1666
On May 10 2013 10:45 patarajate wrote:
Another proof that Alexander Garfield dose not know how to MANAGE a team.
Wish Idra GL in the future.


You don't just keep bad employees indefinitely, hoping they'll improve. It's obvious they did their fair share of trying to help IdrA improve, and his own attitude led them to this eventual decision.

On the other hand, I have little trust for Alex Garfield, and I wonder if IdrA had a hard time taking his speeches seriously. If he smelled a hypocrite, someone who holds himself in high regard the way IdrA does would eventually speak his mind.

Sometimes being humbled is a good time to change your ways though, and if changing helps IdrA, I'd love to see it, especially him placing high or winning a tournament again.
Kim Hyuna
Profile Joined March 2013
Korea (South)264 Posts
May 10 2013 02:00 GMT
#1667
Not surprise.

BYE NOGGIdrA.
김현아 fighting!
freakhill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Japan463 Posts
May 10 2013 02:01 GMT
#1668
EG freed some budget for some decent players now!
Who are the free agents these days? EGbogusRC ??
moo ForGG, Dragon, MVP, Gumiho, DRG, PartinG, Life]0[!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 02:04:14
May 10 2013 02:01 GMT
#1669
On May 10 2013 07:55 Gann1 wrote:


Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 08:21 IdrA wrote:
On May 08 2013 08:11 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:20 IdrA wrote:
talk to your fellow viewers then. because they dont reward results, either for players or teams. code S koreans can stream and get less than 500 viewers. the community forgets about a big tournament win as soon as the next big tournament happens.
a business' purpose is to make money. winning is at best tangentially related to making money in this industry, solely because of what you and the rest of the community chooses to watch. and any company who tries to lead the charge in the direction you're asking for is gonna go out of business. we arent "abusing a competitive platform" we work in an entertainment industry and you guys are entertained by pandering, not competition.


Idra, in an insight in why he behaves the way he does.

I am sure he is a nice fellow, who is pained and crying inside by his enforced facade for entertainment whenever he streams.

nope you're all a bunch of fucks
it just so happens i get paid to treat you like it. it's fucking awesome.

User was temp banned for this post.


Haha, that's what it was?

I actually kind of agree with him, which is why i largely fell out of love with "esports" when it became clear that kespa's BW league was going down. The same is true for LoL, people make more money playing a character that viewers enjoy than they do by playing the game well. "esports" is more like pro wrestling than a legitimate sporting competition.


pro wrestling is competitive and very real. its all about ratings and PPV buy rates and arena ticket sales.
if you are either the most hated.. .or most loved pro wrestler then Vince Macmahon will stick a belt on you and make you very highly paid. pro wrestling is a lot more hazardous to your health though.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
May 10 2013 02:01 GMT
#1670
Everybody who EG signs goes down hill....

IdrA needs time away from game i think as well.
www.twitch.tv/jornada28 Master Protoss. Follow me on Twitter for SC2 Updates https://twitter.com/#!/elelvlent
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 02:06:00
May 10 2013 02:01 GMT
#1671
and with that, I am removing EG from the bottom of my sigs.

seriously, he was the only guy I liked on the team, machine is cool though.

going with CoL now, was a big fan of their CS team back in the day with Frod and Sunman, but these days I'm rocking the CoL tag because of Philipino Champ, the EVO 2013 champion!
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
May 10 2013 02:01 GMT
#1672
Karma is a bitch, Greg Fields.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
May 10 2013 02:01 GMT
#1673
On May 10 2013 10:57 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:54 CrowDOTA wrote:
Irresponsible on Garfield's part not to inform his players beforehand. I feel like IdrA could have really improved, if he had a dedicated practice schedule and a slight change in attitude.

It's been way too long. He was given an extra lax treatment considering how important he was to the team, but he's had way more than enough chances


There was an image taken from Thorzain's stream earlier where Thorzain said in chat that management had been fed up with IdrA for a really long time now and this was the final straw for them.
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 02:05:07
May 10 2013 02:02 GMT
#1674
On May 10 2013 10:53 Sokrates wrote:

Yes i think people are being oppressed when everyone is getting out their pitchforks if they say or do something "bad" like stephano , destiny or idra. Or dont you think it is non oppressive if someone says something others might get offended by (what destiny or stephano did wasnt even meant for the public" yet some people grab their pitchforks and want them to be fired/punished. IS that non "oppressive" to you?


I'm just going to quote a PM I sent to someone during this exact same discussion with destiny last year that encapsulates my opinions on where the responsibilities of players and sponsors/teams lie.

well, no. I don't think that morals create opportunities, I think morals or the appearance of morals can sustain opportunities in communities where public conception of morality is fairly vanilla and unaccepting of deviance. nobody gave destiny a chance because they thought he was a saint, and nobody expects him to be one, they just expect him to not say and do unsupportable things; the continuation of that initial opportunity is dependent on him not fucking it up for himself by being a racist or a mildly sexist nude picture distributor.

going from there, I do think that e-sports should generally be a reflection of the greater progressive society, and I'm not convinced that destiny can thrive in an environment like that. whether his sponsors really cared is kind of irrelevant, because they're forced to kowtow to the same standards of morality that they're simultaneously upholding, willingly or not.


my essential problem with your consistent view on these reoccurring issues is that you utterly shift responsibility from idra's behavior to the society that punishes him. real issue discrimination/unfair discrimination stems from deeply flawed views (women/black people/gay people are stupid and immoral by default!) and does not allow real debate or responses that can help the victim, i.e. a gay man gets fired from his job for nothing but being gay. he cannot change his sexuality.

idra can stop being a silly little bitch and take some of that EG money to go see a psychiatrist, and he apparently hasn't tried or succeeded in the years he's had to effect change. his long-term health for the scene and his career apparently isn't as important as ignoring those issues or conflating them into himself, into some sort of anti-PC bogeyman/rage specter to appeal to teenagers and emotionally stunted drama queens.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
May 10 2013 02:02 GMT
#1675
Well well well... what do we have here
o choro é livre
neurosx
Profile Joined August 2011
Luxembourg1096 Posts
May 10 2013 02:02 GMT
#1676
On May 10 2013 11:01 emc wrote:
and with that, I am removing EG from the bottom of my sigs.

seriously, he was the only guy I liked on the team, machine is cool though.


I really don't get how you can *like* someone like him. It's just .. weird.
You'll wish I'd never stooped to notice you.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 10 2013 02:03 GMT
#1677
On May 10 2013 11:01 Jornada wrote:
Everybody who EG signs goes down hill....

IdrA needs time away from game i think as well.

yeah just like suppy & demuslim right?
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
May 10 2013 02:04 GMT
#1678
Oh wow. Idra actually getting released...never thought I'd see the day. Wonder what's going to happen to him, since performance-wise he's really really dropped off :X
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
May 10 2013 02:05 GMT
#1679
On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
Show nested quote +


Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.



The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it.

Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality.

With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future.


Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10710 Posts
May 10 2013 02:05 GMT
#1680
Well honestly I wish the best for Greg, I don't think he's a bad person at all, just maybe can't control his personality in the lime light, maybe now he will just get picked up by a different team, or maybe he could play in the TLS 2, that would be amazing to see IdrA playing BW again. ^_^

GL IdrA
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