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On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:31 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 12:57 theLeopard wrote:On May 10 2013 12:54 hillman wrote:
I agree with their reasons for releasing him...In fact I voiced this same feeling on his fan forum about 2 weeks ago and got temp. banned for it! But I do hope he finds his love of the game, or finds some joy in something else, if you are constantly unhappy it usually means that you have some imbalance in your life. There is no reason for someone as intelligent and mechanically practiced as Idra not to get get better results AND be happy to be paid to play professional Starcraft. Hopefully he will re-prioritize and find his path. I hate this ****. You're the person IdrA was talking to and I'm finished with this thread and discussion you're all a bunch of fucks. User was temp banned for this post. No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . . Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha. Haha . . . ha? Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him. Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it". You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/ Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol.
Idra's had real life psychiatrists.
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On May 10 2013 13:59 RoboSnail wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:55 suicideyear wrote:On May 10 2013 13:54 Toons wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 suicideyear wrote:On May 10 2013 13:49 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:39 Infernal_dream wrote:On May 10 2013 13:32 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:27 docvoc wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:
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Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse.
It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner.
Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them.
Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch. That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true? I've been on TL and played sc2 since the beta. I used to play as a top masters zerg and have always admired Idra's skill and honesty. IMO he is the most important player in the scene as far as popularity and according to his TL fan page I'm right. His fanpage is a cesspool and not something that should be admired. He appeals to the "imba" crowd. The people who blame the game instead of themselves as to why they're performing badly. There just happens to be a lot of people in that crowd. It draws them in. He does the same thing as them except he makes money. He's setting an example. A horrid one. One that needs to be washed away. Your post makes you sound like a very upset jealous nerd. He's both a better player and more relevant even now then any other foreigner will ever be. I know you're taking the piss but it's a shame that some people actually believe this line of thought It's a shame your not smart enough to recognise he gave more publicity to his brand, than any other pro gamer ... Use your brain, Esports is propped up by companies throwing marketing money at it. Exposure to brand = money keeps coming. I don't give a fuck about esports because if it needs people to act like turdburglers to make money it isn't a sustainable sport in the first place sry Actually it is, look at NFL NBA any other sport you can think of. Bming is part of the competitive spirit if you cant handle it go play a none competitive sport.
Yea I'm pretty sure David Stern or Roger Goodell would have a good laugh when one of their players says they should get raped with a tire iron.
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On May 10 2013 13:59 RoboSnail wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:55 suicideyear wrote:On May 10 2013 13:54 Toons wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 suicideyear wrote:On May 10 2013 13:49 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:39 Infernal_dream wrote:On May 10 2013 13:32 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:27 docvoc wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:
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Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse.
It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner.
Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them.
Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch. That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true? I've been on TL and played sc2 since the beta. I used to play as a top masters zerg and have always admired Idra's skill and honesty. IMO he is the most important player in the scene as far as popularity and according to his TL fan page I'm right. His fanpage is a cesspool and not something that should be admired. He appeals to the "imba" crowd. The people who blame the game instead of themselves as to why they're performing badly. There just happens to be a lot of people in that crowd. It draws them in. He does the same thing as them except he makes money. He's setting an example. A horrid one. One that needs to be washed away. Your post makes you sound like a very upset jealous nerd. He's both a better player and more relevant even now then any other foreigner will ever be. I know you're taking the piss but it's a shame that some people actually believe this line of thought It's a shame your not smart enough to recognise he gave more publicity to his brand, than any other pro gamer ... Use your brain, Esports is propped up by companies throwing marketing money at it. Exposure to brand = money keeps coming. I don't give a fuck about esports because if it needs people to act like turdburglers to make money it isn't a sustainable sport in the first place sry Actually it is, look at NFL NBA any other sport you can think of. Bming is part of the competitive spirit if you cant handle it go play a none competitive sport.
Notice in every pro-sports interview, the players always thank the fans. If they said "Fuck the fans", they'd get canned instantly.
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THIS IS RIDICULOUS, I'M POURING MY MONSTER ENERGY DOWN THE DRAIN AND NOT BUYING ANYMORE
User was warned for this post
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Look at the size of this thread.
Look at the weight - the power - that his comments hold.
I'm disappointed with you, EG. I can't help but say what I think. You released one of your most valuable assets, - arguably the core of your very team - a player who goes against the mold and says what he thinks logically, who acts consistently and has established himself as the greatest actor and antihero of this industry.
You just released the core character of your entire lineup - who has been with you since the beginning, because he said something that is no different from anything else he has said. He was not out of character. He was not out of line.
In a way, what Idra said was true. This community LOVES this sort of bullshit. It was bred for it, thrives on it. It needs it, because without it there can be no storylines worth remembering.
You took the easy way out . You made a decision which has lessened the character of your team, the charisma of your lineup, and the weight you hold in my mind.
To say that Idra is EG is not far off from the truth. I'm very disappointed with your decision Mr. Garfield.
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They clearly don't treat all the players the same way, as a casual looking into Dota 2 i was shocked about some aggressive language toward the community by one of their players and was far more worst than this.
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On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:31 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 12:57 theLeopard wrote:On May 10 2013 12:54 hillman wrote:
I agree with their reasons for releasing him...In fact I voiced this same feeling on his fan forum about 2 weeks ago and got temp. banned for it! But I do hope he finds his love of the game, or finds some joy in something else, if you are constantly unhappy it usually means that you have some imbalance in your life. There is no reason for someone as intelligent and mechanically practiced as Idra not to get get better results AND be happy to be paid to play professional Starcraft. Hopefully he will re-prioritize and find his path. I hate this ****. You're the person IdrA was talking to and I'm finished with this thread and discussion you're all a bunch of fucks. User was temp banned for this post. No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . . Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha. Haha . . . ha? Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him. Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it". You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/ Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol.
He's calling you a bitch in more eloquent terms. He doesn't actually think Idra has you in his psychological grip such that you bond with him out of survival instinct. Hope that's clear.
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On May 10 2013 13:43 AstroPegnuin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:35 Prox wrote:
Alot of respect for EG' decision. Good riddance really, now it's time for Esports to mature!! esports can x in y (i don't want to be banned, oh the irony!!), I'm a Starcraft 2 fan and I don't really care about having SC2 enter the mainstream if that means we lose everything we ever loved about it to begin with, too me SC2, BW, and every other game I've played competitively has always been about just having fun with friends and enjoying personalities like Idra, Naniwa, Destiny, and etc. without the reparations that come with offending the vast majority of reddit/etc. tbh the only model that could ever overlook witch hunters and what not would be a pure donation model from fans which isn't sustainable in a realistic situation but my opinion is of the minority and sadly I don't think we can ever go back
Congratz, you just named the 3 most immature and unprofessional players in the business tbh. Luckily, Naniwa seems to be changing for the best.
I understand your point, but as a 27 y/o fan I'm fed up with these kids ruining the community. You don't need these guys to act like a bunch of kids for the raw-no-fluff experience. It's not like we don't have an AMAZING asortment of personalities already who don't need BM to stay in the spotlights. I have huge amounts of respect for players like Geoff, Artosis etc. who were once great players, care for SC2 and didn't need BM (to vent their frustrations for failing) in pro-gaming.
Welcome to the real world IdrA. I hope the kid learns his lesson.
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I'm sure a lot of people saw this coming. Both EG and Idra are to blame here.
EG should have been more forceful in making Greg clean up his act, it's fairly clear that Naniwa is being handled like this, and it's working as we can see a huge difference in Naniwa's actions. Negative images like his impact sponsorships, and he should have been told more assertively to tone it down before his release. Sounds like EG was trying to offer him support but they should have made it more of an ultimatum for him to understand the severity. I'm say this because even Geoff had no clue that this was going to be the steps taken by EG, and the severity of the issue should have been known to Geoff and Greg beforehand.
Idra is completely responsible as well, EG was offering him support and he should have taken advantage of it. In the end EG did what was necessary, and while they probably should have tired being more forceful first it's ultimately Greg who is responsible for his own actions. He could have avoided this if he wanted to, and maybe he would have wanted to if it was made more clear that his behavior wasn't acceptable.
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i cant beleive this... omg im not going to be buying ANY MORE MONSTER EVER AGAIN UNTIL THIS IS FIXED!!!!!
REDBULL FOR LIFE!
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On May 10 2013 14:03 Qwyn wrote:
Look at the size of this thread.
Look at the weight - the power - that his comments hold.
I'm disappointed with you, EG. I can't help but say what I think. You released one of your most valuable assets, - arguably the core of your very team - a player who goes against the mold and says what he thinks logically, who acts consistently and has established himself as the greatest actor and antihero of this industry.
You just released the core character of your entire lineup - who has been with you since the beginning, because he said something that is no different from anything else he has said. He was not out of character. He was not out of line.
In a way, what Idra said was true. This community LOVES this sort of bullshit. It was bred for it, thrives on it. It needs it, because without it there can be no storylines worth remembering.
You took the easy way out . You made a decision which has lessened the character of your team, the charisma of your lineup, and the weight you hold in my mind.
To say that Idra is EG is not far off from the truth. I'm very disappointed with your decision Mr. Garfield.
Well said, I cant believe it myself.
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On May 10 2013 14:03 Qwyn wrote:
Look at the size of this thread.
Look at the weight - the power - that his comments hold.
I'm disappointed with you, EG. I can't help but say what I think. You released one of your most valuable assets, - arguably the core of your very team - a player who goes against the mold and says what he thinks logically, who acts consistently and has established himself as the greatest actor and antihero of this industry.
You just released the core character of your entire lineup - who has been with you since the beginning, because he said something that is no different from anything else he has said. He was not out of character. He was not out of line.
In a way, what Idra said was true. This community LOVES this sort of bullshit. It was bred for it, thrives on it. It needs it, because without it there can be no storylines worth remembering.
You took the easy way out . You made a decision which has lessened the character of your team, the charisma of your lineup, and the weight you hold in my mind.
To say that Idra is EG is not far off from the truth. I'm very disappointed with your decision Mr. Garfield.
He wasn't with EG until SC2, up until that point, he talked shit to EG people constantly. The most valuable assets to EG are probably the people who win pro-games, like Stephano and DeMuslim.
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On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:31 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 12:57 theLeopard wrote:On May 10 2013 12:54 hillman wrote:
I agree with their reasons for releasing him...In fact I voiced this same feeling on his fan forum about 2 weeks ago and got temp. banned for it! But I do hope he finds his love of the game, or finds some joy in something else, if you are constantly unhappy it usually means that you have some imbalance in your life. There is no reason for someone as intelligent and mechanically practiced as Idra not to get get better results AND be happy to be paid to play professional Starcraft. Hopefully he will re-prioritize and find his path. I hate this ****. You're the person IdrA was talking to and I'm finished with this thread and discussion you're all a bunch of fucks. User was temp banned for this post. No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . . Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha. Haha . . . ha? Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him. Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it". You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/ Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol.
Lol ... pretty much, yes. And no, not that far "out there".
For example:
If I were to think of you Malorean, as dirt beneath my feet and call you a "fuck", from whom I make money off due to your stupidity of cheering for me . . . and knowing this, you were to become obsessed with me and defend my behavior at every opportunity . . . I'd say you have Stockholm Syndrome. Or you're literally insane . . . ya, it's also possible you'd be insane.
P.S. As other posters have mentioned, it's also possible that such behavior can be attributed to just generally being an abrasive d-bag and thinking that Idra would be actually be your friend in real life, as he has a similar personality.
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On May 10 2013 14:03 Qwyn wrote:
In a way, what Idra said was true. This community LOVES this sort of bullshit. It was bred for it, thrives on it. It needs it, because without it there can be no storylines worth remembering.
Clearly we should just cut to the chase and film an EG house reality TV show. Just like MTV doesn't have music, it will have no SC2 in it at all. Then we'd all be much happier. *hifive*
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On May 10 2013 14:03 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:59 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:55 suicideyear wrote:On May 10 2013 13:54 Toons wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 suicideyear wrote:On May 10 2013 13:49 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:39 Infernal_dream wrote:On May 10 2013 13:32 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:27 docvoc wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:
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I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch.
That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true? I've been on TL and played sc2 since the beta. I used to play as a top masters zerg and have always admired Idra's skill and honesty. IMO he is the most important player in the scene as far as popularity and according to his TL fan page I'm right. His fanpage is a cesspool and not something that should be admired. He appeals to the "imba" crowd. The people who blame the game instead of themselves as to why they're performing badly. There just happens to be a lot of people in that crowd. It draws them in. He does the same thing as them except he makes money. He's setting an example. A horrid one. One that needs to be washed away. Your post makes you sound like a very upset jealous nerd. He's both a better player and more relevant even now then any other foreigner will ever be. I know you're taking the piss but it's a shame that some people actually believe this line of thought It's a shame your not smart enough to recognise he gave more publicity to his brand, than any other pro gamer ... Use your brain, Esports is propped up by companies throwing marketing money at it. Exposure to brand = money keeps coming. I don't give a fuck about esports because if it needs people to act like turdburglers to make money it isn't a sustainable sport in the first place sry Actually it is, look at NFL NBA any other sport you can think of. Bming is part of the competitive spirit if you cant handle it go play a none competitive sport. Notice in every pro-sports interview, the players always thank the fans. If they said "Fuck the fans", they'd get canned instantly.
Succicnt summary.
There are countless douchebags in competitive everything. The moment that your "medium" (the player) messes with/polarises the recipients then its "see you, we can find someone else"
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On May 10 2013 14:03 Qwyn wrote:
Look at the size of this thread.
Look at the weight - the power - that his comments hold.
I'm disappointed with you, EG. I can't help but say what I think. You released one of your most valuable assets, - arguably the core of your very team - a player who goes against the mold and says what he thinks logically, who acts consistently and has established himself as the greatest actor and antihero of this industry.
You just released the core character of your entire lineup - who has been with you since the beginning, because he said something that is no different from anything else he has said. He was not out of character. He was not out of line.
In a way, what Idra said was true. This community LOVES this sort of bullshit. It was bred for it, thrives on it. It needs it, because without it there can be no storylines worth remembering.
You took the easy way out . You made a decision which has lessened the character of your team, the charisma of your lineup, and the weight you hold in my mind.
To say that Idra is EG is not far off from the truth. I'm very disappointed with your decision Mr. Garfield.
Maybe if the game had less people like Idra, the SC2 community wouldn't be such a shithole.
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Why do the sad rabid delusional fans keep insisting Idra was keeping it real and speaking the truth? Let's look at this truth that Idra was speaking.
- "Zerg sucks". His balance whine was legit at first, but it was just pathetic excuse for his poor performance. First GSL was won by a zerg, and so was the second. In fact, zergs did quite well despite being UP. Idra was just a bad player and couldn't handle to losing to better players like cruncher and used it to make excuses. So yes, while zerg was UP, he wasn't being completely honest: they were UP, but him being a bad is what caused him to constantly get pwned.
Even more damning is the fact that after zerg queen buff made zerg OP, he still wouldn't admit it and stop his whining. Only now, he had no legit excuse, he was just plain bad, as legions of patch zergs surpassed him.
- "X,Y,Z player sucks". He constantly trashes Marine King, who has won major tournaments, and is a multiple time GSL finalist. Yeah, that's really speaking the "truth". Marine King would destroy him 99% of the time in SC2. How many korean gsl pros did he trash as terrible? How many of these pros actually posted strong results? So if Idra were honest he would actually admit: I hate these players because they are vastly superior to me, and I would lose to them in a bo5.
- "starcraft 2 sucks". Ok that is probably the only valid thing he's said at all that's "keeping it real". the game had many flaws, but its gotten a lot better since release.
So the dude is hardly a prophet being punished for speaking the truth no one else dares to speak.
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Good for IdrA. Who would want to spend the next four years doing nothing but playing crappy variations of WoL, which itself wasn't all that great? He's smart enough to see this as an opportunity to find something more interesting to do.
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On May 10 2013 14:03 Gendo wrote:
They clearly don't treat all the players the same way, as a casual looking into Dota 2 i was shocked about some aggressive language toward the community by one of their players and was far more worst than this.
when did this happen? Maelk said some shit but not nearly as bad as what idra says on a daily basis.
This is a good move for EG in the professional sense, i just fear they will lose many fans who like EG because of idra
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On May 10 2013 14:03 Qwyn wrote:
Look at the size of this thread.
Look at the weight - the power - that his comments hold.
I'm disappointed with you, EG. I can't help but say what I think. You released one of your most valuable assets, - arguably the core of your very team - a player who goes against the mold and says what he thinks logically, who acts consistently and has established himself as the greatest actor and antihero of this industry.
You just released the core character of your entire lineup - who has been with you since the beginning, because he said something that is no different from anything else he has said. He was not out of character. He was not out of line.
In a way, what Idra said was true. This community LOVES this sort of bullshit. It was bred for it, thrives on it. It needs it, because without it there can be no storylines worth remembering.
You took the easy way out . You made a decision which has lessened the character of your team, the charisma of your lineup, and the weight you hold in my mind.
To say that Idra is EG is not far off from the truth. I'm very disappointed with your decision Mr. Garfield.
you can wax rhetorical all you like, they clearly had infinite patience for his crap and couldn't take anymore when they've actioned other EG players for saying things that were arguably less offensive and far more tangential to the scene.
idra being a douche isn't a storyline, it's a character trait and a publicity gimmick. it's kind of insulting to actual underdog storylines and the game in general to imply that being an ass is intrinsic to either of those.
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