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On May 10 2013 13:32 RoboSnail wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:27 docvoc wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it. Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality. With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future. Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch. That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true? I've been on TL and played sc2 since the beta. I used to play as a top masters zerg and have always admired Idra's skill and honesty. IMO he is the most important player in the scene as far as popularity and according to his TL fan page I'm right.
His fanpage is a cesspool and not something that should be admired. He appeals to the "imba" crowd. The people who blame the game instead of themselves as to why they're performing badly. There just happens to be a lot of people in that crowd. It draws them in. He does the same thing as them except he makes money. He's setting an example. A horrid one. One that needs to be washed away.
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On May 10 2013 13:35 Prox wrote:
Alot of respect for EG' decision. Good riddance really, now it's time for Esports to mature!!
After wasting a decade and a half with esports, all it took was one team in one game releasing one guy, and now we can get on with the real esports?
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On May 10 2013 13:36 YumYumGranola wrote: He basically said its an entertainment business and the reality of the situation is people shouldn't hold it against him that he gets more publicity/viewers than players who are posting better results. Sc2 viewers are extremely fickle, and having a character is basically the only way to be consistently relevant to the scene.
If being a character is the only way to stay relevant, than SC2 as a game becomes meaningless. He (or anyone else) can be a "character" in any game or any scene. This scene is built around a game. When that game becomes less and less important, the entire scene spirals into irrelevance.
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On May 10 2013 13:37 PesteNoire wrote:
Hey Idra, welcome to the real world. You are about to find out that the real world sucks a whole lot mroe than being paid 6 figures to play a video game. In about a year, he will be crying at how stupid he was to throw the good life away.
sure short term he will probably regret this whole situation but the way EG has been heading the last few months lets be serious, unless idra went on a super heater he wouldnt of been on EG well before a year from now.
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His first post was right on the money but he really should have realised that the second one would likely force some kind of non-trivial repercussion from EG.
It's unfortunate but probably necessary as he essentially asked for it in the second post.
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On May 10 2013 13:39 MihoBelle wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:33 Akuzuma wrote:
Sorry that IdrA got fired. But I love IdrA! Because he speaks his mind and really mean it. It takes a man to do that. He never apologizes for what he says and to me that makes IdrA a really good person. Good luck in the future!
IdrA fighting! I think it takes a bigger man to apologize when you are in the wrong. All the best to both parties involved!
Yeah. But, if you feel you are right and don't need to apologize. I don't see that happening lol. Because what he says about some fans are true. I read most of the post and people are just crushing him. Then you have the trolls on his stream as well 
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EG will do what what they have to do, but I support IdrA. He has always been my favorite player and one of the main reasons I got into the community and StarCraft 2. I am upset by this and I hope nothing but the best for IdrA in the future.
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On May 10 2013 13:35 Prox wrote:
Alot of respect for EG' decision. Good riddance really, now it's time for Esports to mature!!
esports can x in y (i don't want to be banned, oh the irony!!), I'm a Starcraft 2 fan and I don't really care about having SC2 enter the mainstream if that means we lose everything we ever loved about it to begin with, too me SC2, BW, and every other game I've played competitively has always been about just having fun with friends and enjoying personalities like Idra, Naniwa, Destiny, and etc. without the reparations that come with offending the vast majority of reddit/etc. tbh the only model that could ever overlook witch hunters and what not would be a pure donation model from fans which isn't sustainable in a realistic situation
but my opinion is of the minority and sadly I don't think we can ever go back
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On May 10 2013 13:39 MihoBelle wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:33 Akuzuma wrote:
Sorry that IdrA got fired. But I love IdrA! Because he speaks his mind and really mean it. It takes a man to do that. He never apologizes for what he says and to me that makes IdrA a really good person. Good luck in the future!
IdrA fighting! I think it takes a bigger man to apologize when you are in the wrong. All the best to both parties involved!
Thanks for saying exactly what was on my mind!
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It was about time. I doubt he will find a new team. No professionell organisation would want such a toxic asset.
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I'm not sure what Idra will do next...I'm not sure if he can find another team. His mentality is as toxic (if not more toxic) than Naniwa at his worst, but Idra certainly doesn't have the results than Naniwa has...and I can't quite picture Idra as a lone wolf player. I used to be a fan, but his mentality seems to just have gotten so toxic (as opposed to, for example, last year and that NASL video where he was able to poke fun at himself, and he seemed to be doing solidly in tournaments). I just feel sad for him.
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On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:31 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 12:57 theLeopard wrote:On May 10 2013 12:54 hillman wrote:
I agree with their reasons for releasing him...In fact I voiced this same feeling on his fan forum about 2 weeks ago and got temp. banned for it! But I do hope he finds his love of the game, or finds some joy in something else, if you are constantly unhappy it usually means that you have some imbalance in your life. There is no reason for someone as intelligent and mechanically practiced as Idra not to get get better results AND be happy to be paid to play professional Starcraft. Hopefully he will re-prioritize and find his path. I hate this ****. You're the person IdrA was talking to and I'm finished with this thread and discussion you're all a bunch of fucks. User was temp banned for this post. No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . . Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha. Haha . . . ha? Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him. Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it". You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular.
Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat.
As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/
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On May 10 2013 13:35 Prox wrote:
Alot of respect for EG' decision. Good riddance really, now it's time for Esports to mature!!
I dont like the chances ...
Yeh, ok, he said an exceptionally douchey thing in a long line of douchey behaviour
But, dont you people realise, that he wouldnt be where he was, if it wasnt giving him exposure.
"Esports" isn't going to mature into anything more than it is now. There is a mix of viewers/support , from the 8-14yr old (WTF noob crowd), to the older, watching to relax crowd.
Props to him for being smart enough to recognise this IMO
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On May 10 2013 13:39 Infernal_dream wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:32 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:27 docvoc wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it. Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality. With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future. Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch. That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true? I've been on TL and played sc2 since the beta. I used to play as a top masters zerg and have always admired Idra's skill and honesty. IMO he is the most important player in the scene as far as popularity and according to his TL fan page I'm right. His fanpage is a cesspool and not something that should be admired. He appeals to the "imba" crowd. The people who blame the game instead of themselves as to why they're performing badly. There just happens to be a lot of people in that crowd. It draws them in. He does the same thing as them except he makes money. He's setting an example. A horrid one. One that needs to be washed away.
Your post makes you sound like a very upset jealous nerd. He's both a better player and more relevant even now then any other foreigner will ever be.
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On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:31 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 12:57 theLeopard wrote:On May 10 2013 12:54 hillman wrote:
I agree with their reasons for releasing him...In fact I voiced this same feeling on his fan forum about 2 weeks ago and got temp. banned for it! But I do hope he finds his love of the game, or finds some joy in something else, if you are constantly unhappy it usually means that you have some imbalance in your life. There is no reason for someone as intelligent and mechanically practiced as Idra not to get get better results AND be happy to be paid to play professional Starcraft. Hopefully he will re-prioritize and find his path. I hate this ****. You're the person IdrA was talking to and I'm finished with this thread and discussion you're all a bunch of fucks. User was temp banned for this post. No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . . Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha. Haha . . . ha? Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him. Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it". You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/
Stockholm is a terrible thing.
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Yeah I think it's or the better. He seems like a guy who doesn't even like the game or the community.
Does this mean that Baker is in of ItG and that Fields is out?
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On May 10 2013 13:50 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:31 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 12:57 theLeopard wrote:On May 10 2013 12:54 hillman wrote:
I agree with their reasons for releasing him...In fact I voiced this same feeling on his fan forum about 2 weeks ago and got temp. banned for it! But I do hope he finds his love of the game, or finds some joy in something else, if you are constantly unhappy it usually means that you have some imbalance in your life. There is no reason for someone as intelligent and mechanically practiced as Idra not to get get better results AND be happy to be paid to play professional Starcraft. Hopefully he will re-prioritize and find his path. I hate this ****. You're the person IdrA was talking to and I'm finished with this thread and discussion you're all a bunch of fucks. User was temp banned for this post. No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . . Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha. Haha . . . ha? Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him. Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it". You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/ Stockholm is a terrible thing.
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On May 10 2013 13:41 Phenny wrote:
His first post was right on the money but he really should have realised that the second one would likely force some kind of non-trivial repercussion from EG.
It's unfortunate but probably necessary as he essentially asked for it in the second post.
Can anyone link the posts he made or the content of these posts? Cheers
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