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As a guy that was never a fan of EG, this makes me warm up to them.
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Dang, I didn't see that coming.
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Good riddance to bad rubbish. And don't think you can re-sign him after this has blown over EG, the damage is done.
You want to be taken seriously as a business? You can't have scum like that represent you. (Thinking it's OK to wish cancer on people and treat tournament admins and players like dirt? Ha)
Good on you Mr Garfield for making the right call.
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On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 12:57 theLeopard wrote:On May 10 2013 12:54 hillman wrote:
I agree with their reasons for releasing him...In fact I voiced this same feeling on his fan forum about 2 weeks ago and got temp. banned for it! But I do hope he finds his love of the game, or finds some joy in something else, if you are constantly unhappy it usually means that you have some imbalance in your life. There is no reason for someone as intelligent and mechanically practiced as Idra not to get get better results AND be happy to be paid to play professional Starcraft. Hopefully he will re-prioritize and find his path. I hate this ****. You're the person IdrA was talking to and I'm finished with this thread and discussion you're all a bunch of fucks. User was temp banned for this post. No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . .
Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha.
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On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it. Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality. With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future. Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting!
I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch.
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please forgive me but i cant read trough 103 pages
i dont really follow hardcore SC2, but im interested in this news
why did idra get fired?
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On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it. Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality. With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future. Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch.
I think these idra 'fans' are almost as delusional as the kid himself.
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On May 10 2013 13:24 butterstulle wrote:
please forgive me but i cant read trough 103 pages
i dont really follow hardcore SC2, but im interested in this news
why did idra get fired?
he said something along the lines of, "fuck you guys, I just do this for the money," again. The guys being fans.
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Meh people here don't hate IdrA, they just hate themselves. His lack of filter when expressing his feelings is just the mirror which shows you the somewhat ugly truth. While his comments were probably ill advised from a political and professional standpoint, I don't really hold it against him because, as per usual, he was pretty much right on point.
If what people really wanted was just the highest level gaming possible they wouldn't complain when all the foreign players are out of tournaments by the round of 16.
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On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it. Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality. With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future. Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch.
That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true?
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thanks for the quick round up
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Good luck with your next team sir, I'm sure you won't have trouble finding one.
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On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 12:57 theLeopard wrote:On May 10 2013 12:54 hillman wrote:
I agree with their reasons for releasing him...In fact I voiced this same feeling on his fan forum about 2 weeks ago and got temp. banned for it! But I do hope he finds his love of the game, or finds some joy in something else, if you are constantly unhappy it usually means that you have some imbalance in your life. There is no reason for someone as intelligent and mechanically practiced as Idra not to get get better results AND be happy to be paid to play professional Starcraft. Hopefully he will re-prioritize and find his path. I hate this ****. You're the person IdrA was talking to and I'm finished with this thread and discussion you're all a bunch of fucks. User was temp banned for this post. No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . . Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha.
Lol, I think I've never read the words "tool" or "fucks" in the SC2 world associated to anything in a sentence other than to IdrA, that's saying something. Don't bm the whole community, that's what we got to "learn" from Idra's release.
Wait: "Hydras seemed like a great defensive tool that game, but PartinG gave zero fucks and immortal all-inned to a win anyway."
Fuck, still some Aïdras in there...
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On May 10 2013 13:25 Yorke wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it. Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality. With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future. Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch. I think these idra 'fans' are almost as delusional as the kid himself.
Have you read the IdrA fanclub? You haven't seen anything yet if you haven't scrolled through there. I can absolutely understand still respecting somebody...idk like KeeN or PartinG, who do ceremonies, BM sometimes, talk trash sometimes. But the difference is that those guys did it because they won games, and in many cases didn't mean much of what they said, in KeeN's case, once he got knocked out of Code S he said that he would stop and be mannered. IdrA is a totally different story.
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What page is that on? Also, I never understood why he actually left that game so early, it didn't seem like he thought he had lost or anything.
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On May 10 2013 13:27 YumYumGranola wrote:
Meh people here don't hate IdrA, they just hate themselves. His lack of filter when expressing his feelings is just the mirror which shows you the somewhat ugly truth. While his comments were probably ill advised from a political and professional standpoint, I don't really hold it against him because, as per usual, he was pretty much right on point.
If what people really wanted was just the highest level gaming possible they wouldn't complain when all the foreign players are out of tournaments by the round of 16.
you want to elaborate on the profundity and legitimacy of that truth, then? because to me and most people he just looks like a rager, but I guess he's some sort of postmodern folk hero speaking truth to power that nobody else can see.
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On May 10 2013 13:27 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it. Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality. With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future. Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch. That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true?
Saying that IdrA wasn't instrumental in the development of the western scene is nothing short of revisionism. He didn't build it alone but he was one of the major players.
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On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 12:57 theLeopard wrote:On May 10 2013 12:54 hillman wrote:
I agree with their reasons for releasing him...In fact I voiced this same feeling on his fan forum about 2 weeks ago and got temp. banned for it! But I do hope he finds his love of the game, or finds some joy in something else, if you are constantly unhappy it usually means that you have some imbalance in your life. There is no reason for someone as intelligent and mechanically practiced as Idra not to get get better results AND be happy to be paid to play professional Starcraft. Hopefully he will re-prioritize and find his path. I hate this ****. You're the person IdrA was talking to and I'm finished with this thread and discussion you're all a bunch of fucks. User was temp banned for this post. No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . . Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha.
Haha . . . ha?
Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him.
Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it".
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On May 10 2013 13:27 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it. Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality. With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future. Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch. That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true?
I've been on TL and played sc2 since the beta. I used to play as a top masters zerg and have always admired Idra's skill and honesty. IMO he is the most important player in the scene as far as popularity and according to his TL fan page I'm right.
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