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On May 10 2013 13:49 RoboSnail wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:39 Infernal_dream wrote:On May 10 2013 13:32 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:27 docvoc wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it. Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality. With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future. Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch. That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true? I've been on TL and played sc2 since the beta. I used to play as a top masters zerg and have always admired Idra's skill and honesty. IMO he is the most important player in the scene as far as popularity and according to his TL fan page I'm right. His fanpage is a cesspool and not something that should be admired. He appeals to the "imba" crowd. The people who blame the game instead of themselves as to why they're performing badly. There just happens to be a lot of people in that crowd. It draws them in. He does the same thing as them except he makes money. He's setting an example. A horrid one. One that needs to be washed away. Your post makes you sound like a very upset jealous nerd. He's both a better player and more relevant even now then any other foreigner will ever be.
I know you're taking the piss but it's a shame that some people actually believe this line of thought
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On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:31 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 12:57 theLeopard wrote:On May 10 2013 12:54 hillman wrote:
I agree with their reasons for releasing him...In fact I voiced this same feeling on his fan forum about 2 weeks ago and got temp. banned for it! But I do hope he finds his love of the game, or finds some joy in something else, if you are constantly unhappy it usually means that you have some imbalance in your life. There is no reason for someone as intelligent and mechanically practiced as Idra not to get get better results AND be happy to be paid to play professional Starcraft. Hopefully he will re-prioritize and find his path. I hate this ****. You're the person IdrA was talking to and I'm finished with this thread and discussion you're all a bunch of fucks. User was temp banned for this post. No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . . Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha. Haha . . . ha? Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him. Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it". You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/
Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it.
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Good. I hope he leaves the scene for good and take his fans with him.
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Always cracks me up when people use the "o he's just honest, he's not fake like everyone else blahblah" excuse for people who act like immature assholes to everyone, like it's somehow a positive thing to just be an asshole as long as you label them as "honest" instead. I know plenty of people who are "honest" and it does not mean they are jerks who blame everyone else but themselves for everything that ever goes wrong, whine about shit constantly, belittle and disrespect their peers and so on. So I guess all the whiney jerks in the world are actually just awesome "honest" people... eyeroll. Those things just make you an immature jerk and people who admire such people are not really admiring their "honesty" they are admiring them for being immature mean spirit people like themselves and validating their own sad inner thoughts.
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Good for IdrA, it seems to me that he's hated the game for years. Hopefully he's can find something to do that he actually enjoys.
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On May 10 2013 13:52 suicideyear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:49 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:39 Infernal_dream wrote:On May 10 2013 13:32 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:27 docvoc wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it. Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality. With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future. Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch. That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true? I've been on TL and played sc2 since the beta. I used to play as a top masters zerg and have always admired Idra's skill and honesty. IMO he is the most important player in the scene as far as popularity and according to his TL fan page I'm right. His fanpage is a cesspool and not something that should be admired. He appeals to the "imba" crowd. The people who blame the game instead of themselves as to why they're performing badly. There just happens to be a lot of people in that crowd. It draws them in. He does the same thing as them except he makes money. He's setting an example. A horrid one. One that needs to be washed away. Your post makes you sound like a very upset jealous nerd. He's both a better player and more relevant even now then any other foreigner will ever be. I know you're taking the piss but it's a shame that some people actually believe this line of thought
It's a shame your not smart enough to recognise he gave more publicity to his brand, than any other pro gamer ... Use your brain, Esports is propped up by companies throwing marketing money at it.
Exposure to brand = money keeps coming.
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On May 10 2013 13:53 Jindo wrote:
Good. I hope he leaves the scene for good and take his fans with him.
I agree. I prefer watching the actual gameplay of Starcraft rather than the drama 
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To be honest, I was more surprised when he joined EG. After all the trash-talk on Lz and Machine, I thought it was an odd fit for him. As far as the career goes, I really feel bad because he gave up a scholarship to study theoretical physics to play games professionally, and now that career kind of crumbled away. I'm sure he can still make money streaming, as long as he's talented enough to compete in Grandmasters.
I can only imagine all the people he trashed with bad manners in games are laughing their asses off right now, but I don't take what he posted on TL personally. I have really mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, if you treat people bad, it will come back to bite you, but on the other hand, I really would much rather be kind to people, even if they aren't good people. It's a weird desire for both justice and mercy.
I think I like mercy more though.
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On May 10 2013 13:54 Toons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:52 suicideyear wrote:On May 10 2013 13:49 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:39 Infernal_dream wrote:On May 10 2013 13:32 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:27 docvoc wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
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The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it.
Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality.
With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future. Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch. That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true? I've been on TL and played sc2 since the beta. I used to play as a top masters zerg and have always admired Idra's skill and honesty. IMO he is the most important player in the scene as far as popularity and according to his TL fan page I'm right. His fanpage is a cesspool and not something that should be admired. He appeals to the "imba" crowd. The people who blame the game instead of themselves as to why they're performing badly. There just happens to be a lot of people in that crowd. It draws them in. He does the same thing as them except he makes money. He's setting an example. A horrid one. One that needs to be washed away. Your post makes you sound like a very upset jealous nerd. He's both a better player and more relevant even now then any other foreigner will ever be. I know you're taking the piss but it's a shame that some people actually believe this line of thought It's a shame your not smart enough to recognise he gave more publicity to his brand, than any other pro gamer ... Use your brain, Esports is propped up by companies throwing marketing money at it. Exposure to brand = money keeps coming.
I don't give a fuck about esports because if it needs people to act like turdburglers to make money it isn't a sustainable sport in the first place sry
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I think this decision is gonna end up being reversed.
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On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:31 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 12:57 theLeopard wrote:On May 10 2013 12:54 hillman wrote:
I agree with their reasons for releasing him...In fact I voiced this same feeling on his fan forum about 2 weeks ago and got temp. banned for it! But I do hope he finds his love of the game, or finds some joy in something else, if you are constantly unhappy it usually means that you have some imbalance in your life. There is no reason for someone as intelligent and mechanically practiced as Idra not to get get better results AND be happy to be paid to play professional Starcraft. Hopefully he will re-prioritize and find his path. I hate this ****. You're the person IdrA was talking to and I'm finished with this thread and discussion you're all a bunch of fucks. User was temp banned for this post. No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . . Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha. Haha . . . ha? Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him. Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it". You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/ Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it.
There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S".
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On May 10 2013 13:49 RoboSnail wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:39 Infernal_dream wrote:On May 10 2013 13:32 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:27 docvoc wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it. Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality. With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future. Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch. That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true? I've been on TL and played sc2 since the beta. I used to play as a top masters zerg and have always admired Idra's skill and honesty. IMO he is the most important player in the scene as far as popularity and according to his TL fan page I'm right. His fanpage is a cesspool and not something that should be admired. He appeals to the "imba" crowd. The people who blame the game instead of themselves as to why they're performing badly. There just happens to be a lot of people in that crowd. It draws them in. He does the same thing as them except he makes money. He's setting an example. A horrid one. One that needs to be washed away. Your post makes you sound like a very upset jealous nerd. He's both a better player and more relevant even now then any other foreigner will ever be.
He may be relevant, but a better player? lol.
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more money for players like forgg, kas and happy who are playing a TON of games daily. I like that...
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On May 10 2013 13:54 Toons wrote:
Exposure to brand = money keeps coming.
Getting fired = you were costing your company too much money. It goes both ways.
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On May 10 2013 13:54 Toons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:52 suicideyear wrote:On May 10 2013 13:49 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:39 Infernal_dream wrote:On May 10 2013 13:32 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:27 docvoc wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2013 10:55 kasumimi wrote:
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The SC2 community owes nothing to Idra, how delusional you have to be to actually believe that? It's 100% the other way around... A mediocre player that did well in BETA, proceeded to cash in for 3 fucking years riding the bandwagon of SC2. Which is driven by people who are really passionate about it.
Also if you believe that SC2 is a shitty game then how can you watch a guy that openly HATES it play it over and over just for sponsor money? You are either successfully trolled an answer out of me or you need to get a better grasp of logic and reality.
With that said, I really hope he can move forward and do something that he enjoys. Best of luck to him in the future. Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch. That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true? I've been on TL and played sc2 since the beta. I used to play as a top masters zerg and have always admired Idra's skill and honesty. IMO he is the most important player in the scene as far as popularity and according to his TL fan page I'm right. His fanpage is a cesspool and not something that should be admired. He appeals to the "imba" crowd. The people who blame the game instead of themselves as to why they're performing badly. There just happens to be a lot of people in that crowd. It draws them in. He does the same thing as them except he makes money. He's setting an example. A horrid one. One that needs to be washed away. Your post makes you sound like a very upset jealous nerd. He's both a better player and more relevant even now then any other foreigner will ever be. I know you're taking the piss but it's a shame that some people actually believe this line of thought It's a shame your not smart enough to recognise he gave more publicity to his brand, than any other pro gamer ... Use your brain, Esports is propped up by companies throwing marketing money at it. Exposure to brand = money keeps coming.
No.
You don't just turn a blind eye to bad behavior for the "greater good". You can only do that for so long until the bad behavior gets so out-of-hand that it does way more damage than you could have imagined.
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On May 10 2013 13:55 ninazerg wrote:
I really feel bad because he gave up a scholarship to study theoretical physics to play games professionally, and now that career kind of crumbled away.
He gave up an opportunity to study undergraduate physics, not quite the same thing, and he's still young enough to go back and do that if he really wants to. Also, there's no particular reason to assume his professional gaming career is over, until he makes that choice. I'm sure he could find opportunities elsewhere if he cares to.
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On May 10 2013 13:57 vesicular wrote:Getting fired = you were costing your company too much money. It goes both ways.
For sure, definitely agree.
Just wish people would realise this isn't something new (it's done the world over in sporting etc). The more you stand out , the more a brand loves you.
Sometimes you 'stand out' too much, or in a polarising way (and this = brand dropping you)
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Listening to Sotg right now, kind of disagreeing with Incontrol right now. I do think Idra should have to win in order to prove that he still has it. It might not be the case that he has to, but I think the community shouldn't give him attention he doesn't deserve unless he starts caring for the community or start training seriously. I know that that isn't the case in reality but I think that should be the case.
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On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:31 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 12:57 theLeopard wrote:On May 10 2013 12:54 hillman wrote:
I agree with their reasons for releasing him...In fact I voiced this same feeling on his fan forum about 2 weeks ago and got temp. banned for it! But I do hope he finds his love of the game, or finds some joy in something else, if you are constantly unhappy it usually means that you have some imbalance in your life. There is no reason for someone as intelligent and mechanically practiced as Idra not to get get better results AND be happy to be paid to play professional Starcraft. Hopefully he will re-prioritize and find his path. I hate this ****. You're the person IdrA was talking to and I'm finished with this thread and discussion you're all a bunch of fucks. User was temp banned for this post. No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . . Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha. Haha . . . ha? Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him. Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it". You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/ Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S".
Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol.
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On May 10 2013 13:55 suicideyear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:54 Toons wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 suicideyear wrote:On May 10 2013 13:49 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:39 Infernal_dream wrote:On May 10 2013 13:32 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:27 docvoc wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 Chaggi wrote:On May 10 2013 13:14 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 11:05 TheSwamp wrote:
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Pretty convenient to forget the tournaments he won after release, and his decent runs through GSL with Jinro. By all means, continue you're pointless hatred. And you should look up the word delusional. Pretty convenient to forget the popularity that he has brought to a game and community that hardly deserves it. Idra has been nothing but honest about everything hes ever said. You sit on your high horse and talk shit about him, but hes brought more attention negative or positive to sc2 then any other pro out there. He's still one of the best sc2 players in the world and he deserves your respect. It's pretty clear that Idra has anger issues that he has very little control over yet everyone judges him and eggs him on for a reaction. If any of you were harassed and bullied even half as much as Idra you would be just as toxic if not worse. It's so funny to watch all you bandwagon forum warriors pretend like you could deal with the stress Idra is under day in and day out. This community has been just as shitty and toxic towards idra and yet you act surprised when he acts out in a toxic manner. Jokes on EG anyway, Idra likely already has offers piling up by teams that are looking for thousands of new fans. I'll be one of them. Idra Fighting! I don't think he deserves my respect. As a player, he had every advantage given to him and he basically pissed it away screaming imba imba imba. He may have helped establish the scene when it was young, but putting credit solely on him is a disservice to anyone else involved. What about Day9? What about Jinro? HuK? Anyone of those guys could've carried it the way Idra did. The only difference is that they didn't have to BM everyone and call everything OP. His attitude was shit and he deserves everything coming at him. Karma's a bitch. That opinion boggles my mind. The people who think he built the scene, I mean, how long have these people been here? Do they remember the beta tournaments with NoNy an all that jazz? Saying that he built the scene is like saying Rome was built in a day, it's wrong and a banality at best. He did quite little other than bring attention to the scene with his BM. There was a period where he was quite dominant, but in that period people had little idea of what they were doing, and there were other foreigners and koreans better than idrA. The dude could be cool if his personality wasn't like it is. Some players are like NaNi and are incredibly competitive, but nice outside of the game, idrA was the same jerk inside and outside. Nothing was ever good enough, and if he ever lost it was due to some bs that he couldn't control. How can people say it was him that built this scene when that blatantly isn't true? I've been on TL and played sc2 since the beta. I used to play as a top masters zerg and have always admired Idra's skill and honesty. IMO he is the most important player in the scene as far as popularity and according to his TL fan page I'm right. His fanpage is a cesspool and not something that should be admired. He appeals to the "imba" crowd. The people who blame the game instead of themselves as to why they're performing badly. There just happens to be a lot of people in that crowd. It draws them in. He does the same thing as them except he makes money. He's setting an example. A horrid one. One that needs to be washed away. Your post makes you sound like a very upset jealous nerd. He's both a better player and more relevant even now then any other foreigner will ever be. I know you're taking the piss but it's a shame that some people actually believe this line of thought It's a shame your not smart enough to recognise he gave more publicity to his brand, than any other pro gamer ... Use your brain, Esports is propped up by companies throwing marketing money at it. Exposure to brand = money keeps coming. I don't give a fuck about esports because if it needs people to act like turdburglers to make money it isn't a sustainable sport in the first place sry
Actually it is, look at NFL NBA any other sport you can think of. Bming is part of the competitive spirit if you cant handle it go play a none competitive sport.
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