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On May 10 2013 14:12 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:03 Xahhk wrote:On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:31 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:
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No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . . Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha. Haha . . . ha? Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him. Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it". You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/ Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol. He's calling you a bitch in more eloquent terms. He doesn't actually think Idra has you in his psychological grip such that you bond with him out of survival instinct. Hope that's clear. Correction, he's calling himself that if he makes that analogy. I'm not an Idra fan nor have I ever been. Also, my point was the analogy was awful and pathetic. Getting really tired of the misuse of psychological disorders/psychiatric disorders as I work in this field and its sad to see is misused and/or used as an argument.
Obviously we're not psychiatrists here. We're enjoying ourselves and sharing our opinions on the matters. Don't get your taint in a bind over it. 
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On May 10 2013 14:12 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:09 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:01 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:31 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:
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Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha. Haha . . . ha? Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him. Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it". You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/ Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol. Idra's had real life psychiatrists. Unfortunately I'm afraid you don't understand what this disorder is or even the relevance (or lack thereof) to making the analogy that was made. I'm just saying that neither are you qualified to dismiss anything on the basis of knowledge you don't have. Idra actually has personal problems which may or may not be psychiatric that requires attention from his friends and social circle, what ever they are ain't our business.
Unlike you I actually work in a mental health field and realize how poor and crude this analogy is. Idra more likely has psychological problems, not ones requiring psychiatric care. He has a mental block when it comes to performing certain tasks in his chosen field of employment - not a need for medicine. I think my entire point is lost on these forums though, and posters like that in particular, who really don't know anything about psychological disorders and make crude analogies for basically no reason.
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On May 10 2013 14:15 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:12 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:09 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:01 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:31 SCST wrote:
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Haha . . . ha?
Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him.
Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it".
You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/ Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol. Idra's had real life psychiatrists. Unfortunately I'm afraid you don't understand what this disorder is or even the relevance (or lack thereof) to making the analogy that was made. I'm just saying that neither are you qualified to dismiss anything on the basis of knowledge you don't have. Idra actually has personal problems which may or may not be psychiatric that requires attention from his friends and social circle, what ever they are ain't our business. Unlike you I actually work in a mental health field and realize how poor and crude this analogy is. Idra more likely has psychological problems, not ones requiring psychiatric care. He has a mental block when it comes to performing certain tasks in his chosen field of employment - not a need for medicine. I think my entire point is lost on these forums though, and posters like that in particular, who really don't know anything about psychological disorders and make crude analogies for basically no reason.
No... Idra's actually had real life psychiatrists. This is a fact. Ask Incontrol. This happened like 1 1/2 years ago.
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On May 10 2013 13:06 TheExile19 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Not hard to speculate why he was kicked. The Reddit kids called the sponsors. Why else would they release him over insults only marginally worse than in the past?
Reddit is a pox on society. so what's more childish, your shifting of blame from the person who acted poorly to everyone who isn't interested in bullshit, or people not being interested in bullshit?
Anyone who actually called sponsors is a real piece of shit honestly. Not liking the player, boycotting the player is one thing, but it takes someone with a dumpster ass life to actively try to make someone lose their job.
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On May 10 2013 14:17 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:15 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:12 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:09 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:01 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:
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You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/ Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol. Idra's had real life psychiatrists. Unfortunately I'm afraid you don't understand what this disorder is or even the relevance (or lack thereof) to making the analogy that was made. I'm just saying that neither are you qualified to dismiss anything on the basis of knowledge you don't have. Idra actually has personal problems which may or may not be psychiatric that requires attention from his friends and social circle, what ever they are ain't our business. Unlike you I actually work in a mental health field and realize how poor and crude this analogy is. Idra more likely has psychological problems, not ones requiring psychiatric care. He has a mental block when it comes to performing certain tasks in his chosen field of employment - not a need for medicine. I think my entire point is lost on these forums though, and posters like that in particular, who really don't know anything about psychological disorders and make crude analogies for basically no reason. No... Idra's actually had real life psychiatrists. This is a fact. Ask Incontrol. This happened like 1 1/2 years ago.
And I quote Incontrol "he has used a sports PSYCHOLOGIST"... end quote.
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On May 10 2013 14:14 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:10 Toons wrote:On May 10 2013 14:05 ninazerg wrote:On May 10 2013 14:03 Qwyn wrote:
Look at the size of this thread.
Look at the weight - the power - that his comments hold.
I'm disappointed with you, EG. I can't help but say what I think. You released one of your most valuable assets, - arguably the core of your very team - a player who goes against the mold and says what he thinks logically, who acts consistently and has established himself as the greatest actor and antihero of this industry.
You just released the core character of your entire lineup - who has been with you since the beginning, because he said something that is no different from anything else he has said. He was not out of character. He was not out of line.
In a way, what Idra said was true. This community LOVES this sort of bullshit. It was bred for it, thrives on it. It needs it, because without it there can be no storylines worth remembering.
You took the easy way out . You made a decision which has lessened the character of your team, the charisma of your lineup, and the weight you hold in my mind.
To say that Idra is EG is not far off from the truth. I'm very disappointed with your decision Mr. Garfield. He wasn't with EG until SC2, up until that point, he talked shit to EG people constantly. The most valuable assets to EG are probably the people who win pro-games, like Stephano and DeMuslim. I agreed with some of your previous posts, until this. Idra made a fantastic point in amongst his 'bunch of fucks' comment. Paraphrased: 'Being successful (financially) in the Esports industry is, at most, tangentially related to being the best player'. Sucks that this overall point will be lost. If IdrA is the highest-paid player in the world, that would just be a travesty and an insult to everyone who plays SC2 at a very high level to win tournaments.
Ideally, its not like this, but its not about that.
Hot girls in tennis (with low ability) get paid more off court than on it.
Dennis rodman got paid loads and loads, while not really being the most skillful player of his time (sorry, i dont follow american sport for other examples)
The reality is that being the best, even in the top 10, in esports playing ability, does not mean you are in the top 10 for salaries.
Tthe evidence is there, Korea is loaded with exceptional talent, why aren they all driving Benzs?
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On May 10 2013 14:17 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:15 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:12 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:09 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:01 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:
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You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/ Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol. Idra's had real life psychiatrists. Unfortunately I'm afraid you don't understand what this disorder is or even the relevance (or lack thereof) to making the analogy that was made. I'm just saying that neither are you qualified to dismiss anything on the basis of knowledge you don't have. Idra actually has personal problems which may or may not be psychiatric that requires attention from his friends and social circle, what ever they are ain't our business. Unlike you I actually work in a mental health field and realize how poor and crude this analogy is. Idra more likely has psychological problems, not ones requiring psychiatric care. He has a mental block when it comes to performing certain tasks in his chosen field of employment - not a need for medicine. I think my entire point is lost on these forums though, and posters like that in particular, who really don't know anything about psychological disorders and make crude analogies for basically no reason. No... Idra's actually had real life psychiatrists. This is a fact. Ask Incontrol. This happened like 1 1/2 years ago.
So what? How is that relevant to anything?
Why would you make this personal and question his mental health?
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On May 10 2013 14:17 Little-Chimp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 13:06 TheExile19 wrote:On May 10 2013 13:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Not hard to speculate why he was kicked. The Reddit kids called the sponsors. Why else would they release him over insults only marginally worse than in the past?
Reddit is a pox on society. so what's more childish, your shifting of blame from the person who acted poorly to everyone who isn't interested in bullshit, or people not being interested in bullshit? Anyone who actually called sponsors is a real piece of shit honestly. Not liking the player, boycotting the player is one thing, but it takes someone with a dumpster ass life to actively try to make someone lose their job.
QFT: Sponsors bring money to the entire industry. Jeopardizing that for any reason is not good for E-Sports.
edit: even if this wasn't the case i hope reddit moderators will do a little bit to dissuade these kind of events in the future.
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My point was when you think you think InControl or Idra. Yes Demuslim, Huk, Stephano, etc are EG, but I never associated EG with them.
I would go so far as to say Idra (and a lesser extent Incontrol) were almost MASCOTS for the team.
Its such a foolish decision on the teams part I really cant say any more than that. They are going to lose popularity I dont care if they have Huk, Demuslim, or Stephano.
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On May 10 2013 14:18 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:17 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:15 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:12 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:09 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:01 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:
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Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat.
As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/
Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol. Idra's had real life psychiatrists. Unfortunately I'm afraid you don't understand what this disorder is or even the relevance (or lack thereof) to making the analogy that was made. I'm just saying that neither are you qualified to dismiss anything on the basis of knowledge you don't have. Idra actually has personal problems which may or may not be psychiatric that requires attention from his friends and social circle, what ever they are ain't our business. Unlike you I actually work in a mental health field and realize how poor and crude this analogy is. Idra more likely has psychological problems, not ones requiring psychiatric care. He has a mental block when it comes to performing certain tasks in his chosen field of employment - not a need for medicine. I think my entire point is lost on these forums though, and posters like that in particular, who really don't know anything about psychological disorders and make crude analogies for basically no reason. No... Idra's actually had real life psychiatrists. This is a fact. Ask Incontrol. This happened like 1 1/2 years ago. And I quote Incontrol "he has used a sports PSYCHOLOGIST"... end quote.
Are you under the impression I'm defending other people's diagnosis of Greg on this forum? I'm saying that neither are you qualified to diagnose anything.
On May 10 2013 14:19 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:17 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:15 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:12 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:09 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:01 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:
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Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat.
As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/
Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol. Idra's had real life psychiatrists. Unfortunately I'm afraid you don't understand what this disorder is or even the relevance (or lack thereof) to making the analogy that was made. I'm just saying that neither are you qualified to dismiss anything on the basis of knowledge you don't have. Idra actually has personal problems which may or may not be psychiatric that requires attention from his friends and social circle, what ever they are ain't our business. Unlike you I actually work in a mental health field and realize how poor and crude this analogy is. Idra more likely has psychological problems, not ones requiring psychiatric care. He has a mental block when it comes to performing certain tasks in his chosen field of employment - not a need for medicine. I think my entire point is lost on these forums though, and posters like that in particular, who really don't know anything about psychological disorders and make crude analogies for basically no reason. No... Idra's actually had real life psychiatrists. This is a fact. Ask Incontrol. This happened like 1 1/2 years ago. So what? How is that relevant to anything? Why would you make this personal and question his mental health?
I'm not the person doing that. Everyone else is. I'm saying it's his own business.
"Idra actually has personal problems which may or may not be psychiatric that requires attention from his friends and social circle, what ever they are ain't our business."
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On May 10 2013 14:19 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:17 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:15 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:12 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:09 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:01 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:
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Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat.
As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/
Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol. Idra's had real life psychiatrists. Unfortunately I'm afraid you don't understand what this disorder is or even the relevance (or lack thereof) to making the analogy that was made. I'm just saying that neither are you qualified to dismiss anything on the basis of knowledge you don't have. Idra actually has personal problems which may or may not be psychiatric that requires attention from his friends and social circle, what ever they are ain't our business. Unlike you I actually work in a mental health field and realize how poor and crude this analogy is. Idra more likely has psychological problems, not ones requiring psychiatric care. He has a mental block when it comes to performing certain tasks in his chosen field of employment - not a need for medicine. I think my entire point is lost on these forums though, and posters like that in particular, who really don't know anything about psychological disorders and make crude analogies for basically no reason. No... Idra's actually had real life psychiatrists. This is a fact. Ask Incontrol. This happened like 1 1/2 years ago. So what? How is that relevant to anything? Why would you make this personal and question his mental health?
Don't worry about it, if you read his previous posts this is typical of these forums. People who don't understand what various mental health workers do and/or attach stigma to the clients who use these services to benefit themselves.
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On May 10 2013 14:13 suicideyear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:12 Geneq wrote:
It seems Idra always brings the armchair psychiatrists to TL. First they diagnosed him with Asperger's, and now they are telling the fans of Idra they have Stockholm Syndrome. this website has autism + Show Spoiler +User was temp banned for this post.
Found this all amusing, I actually do have AS. I really don't think Greg does. His wit is too quick, AS patients tend to be slow (stupid) on the spot but wise given time. He doesn't fit this model.
Edit: huh, didn't notice the red but thanks guys (mods)
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100+ pages and no speculation on who EG is going to sign with the money freed up from Idra's salary...
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On May 10 2013 14:19 Toons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:14 ninazerg wrote:On May 10 2013 14:10 Toons wrote:On May 10 2013 14:05 ninazerg wrote:On May 10 2013 14:03 Qwyn wrote:
Look at the size of this thread.
Look at the weight - the power - that his comments hold.
I'm disappointed with you, EG. I can't help but say what I think. You released one of your most valuable assets, - arguably the core of your very team - a player who goes against the mold and says what he thinks logically, who acts consistently and has established himself as the greatest actor and antihero of this industry.
You just released the core character of your entire lineup - who has been with you since the beginning, because he said something that is no different from anything else he has said. He was not out of character. He was not out of line.
In a way, what Idra said was true. This community LOVES this sort of bullshit. It was bred for it, thrives on it. It needs it, because without it there can be no storylines worth remembering.
You took the easy way out . You made a decision which has lessened the character of your team, the charisma of your lineup, and the weight you hold in my mind.
To say that Idra is EG is not far off from the truth. I'm very disappointed with your decision Mr. Garfield. He wasn't with EG until SC2, up until that point, he talked shit to EG people constantly. The most valuable assets to EG are probably the people who win pro-games, like Stephano and DeMuslim. I agreed with some of your previous posts, until this. Idra made a fantastic point in amongst his 'bunch of fucks' comment. Paraphrased: 'Being successful (financially) in the Esports industry is, at most, tangentially related to being the best player'. Sucks that this overall point will be lost. If IdrA is the highest-paid player in the world, that would just be a travesty and an insult to everyone who plays SC2 at a very high level to win tournaments. Ideally, its not like this, but its not about that. Hot girls in tennis (with low ability) get paid more off court than on it. Dennis rodman got paid loads and loads, while not really being the most skillful player of his time (sorry, i dont follow american sport for other examples)
Dennis Rodman is an NBA Hall of Fame player, who earned NBA All-Defensive First Team honors seven times and was voted NBA Defensive Player of the Year twice. He led the NBA in rebounds per game for a record seven consecutive years and won five NBA championships.
Tthe evidence is there, Korea is loaded with exceptional talent, why aren they all driving Benzs?
Nobody in SC2 is being paid enough to be considered "wealthy", period.
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On May 10 2013 14:19 FoxShine wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:17 Little-Chimp wrote:On May 10 2013 13:06 TheExile19 wrote:On May 10 2013 13:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Not hard to speculate why he was kicked. The Reddit kids called the sponsors. Why else would they release him over insults only marginally worse than in the past?
Reddit is a pox on society. so what's more childish, your shifting of blame from the person who acted poorly to everyone who isn't interested in bullshit, or people not being interested in bullshit? Anyone who actually called sponsors is a real piece of shit honestly. Not liking the player, boycotting the player is one thing, but it takes someone with a dumpster ass life to actively try to make someone lose their job. QFT: Sponsors bring money to the entire industry. Jeopardizing that for any reason is not good for E-Sports.
I dont think Esports knows whats good for Esports.
Esports doesnt have 'glamour', or athleticisim (in its physical form), so companies cannot plaster their good looking athletes into underwear ads etc.
They have to get exposure to the audience.
The audience, of Esports, laps (lapped maybe? not sure of past tense usage at this point, too early) up the personality that is Idra.
He marginally went over the line, and only marginally IMO
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On May 10 2013 14:15 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:12 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:09 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:01 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 13:31 SCST wrote:
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Haha . . . ha?
Except that, like 95% of the community that you just called "tools" and 'haters", I rarely watch his stream. I never go into his chat. And I never troll him.
Are you Idra posting on a different account? Regardless of who you are, as Sundance would say: you just don't "get it".
You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular. Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat. As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/ Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol. Idra's had real life psychiatrists. Unfortunately I'm afraid you don't understand what this disorder is or even the relevance (or lack thereof) to making the analogy that was made. I'm just saying that neither are you qualified to dismiss anything on the basis of knowledge you don't have. Idra actually has personal problems which may or may not be psychiatric that requires attention from his friends and social circle, what ever they are ain't our business. Unlike you I actually work in a mental health field and realize how poor and crude this analogy is. Idra more likely has psychological problems, not ones requiring psychiatric care. He has a mental block when it comes to performing certain tasks in his chosen field of employment - not a need for medicine. I think my entire point is lost on these forums though, and posters like that in particular, who really don't know anything about psychological disorders and make crude analogies for basically no reason.
I'm confused here. So you're saying that not needing medicine is = not needing psychiatric care? Because Idra most likely does need counseling and psychological therapy of some kind, and nobody knows if it will require medicine or even what the hell is wrong him, period. How do you know that Idra doesn't require psychiatric care? You have some strange insight on Idra just from observing him that the rest of us don't?
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On May 10 2013 14:21 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:18 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:17 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:15 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:12 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:09 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:01 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:
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Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it. There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol. Idra's had real life psychiatrists. Unfortunately I'm afraid you don't understand what this disorder is or even the relevance (or lack thereof) to making the analogy that was made. I'm just saying that neither are you qualified to dismiss anything on the basis of knowledge you don't have. Idra actually has personal problems which may or may not be psychiatric that requires attention from his friends and social circle, what ever they are ain't our business. Unlike you I actually work in a mental health field and realize how poor and crude this analogy is. Idra more likely has psychological problems, not ones requiring psychiatric care. He has a mental block when it comes to performing certain tasks in his chosen field of employment - not a need for medicine. I think my entire point is lost on these forums though, and posters like that in particular, who really don't know anything about psychological disorders and make crude analogies for basically no reason. No... Idra's actually had real life psychiatrists. This is a fact. Ask Incontrol. This happened like 1 1/2 years ago. And I quote Incontrol "he has used a sports PSYCHOLOGIST"... end quote. Are you under the impression I'm defending other people's diagnosis of Greg on this forum? I'm saying that neither are you qualified to diagnose anything.
Yeah, my point has gone straight over your head as you seem to not understand the difference between a psychologist and a psychiatrist or the fact that Idra and/or teammates have never said he had "mental problems" but that he used a sports psychologist. I'm not attempting to diagnose anything, I'm attempting to do the opposite. You were the one who grossly misused Stockholm Syndrome as a bad analogy/shot at Idra and his fans. I'm done with this conversation as you seem to be entirely missing the point.
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I like EG, and i think it for the best for them.
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On May 10 2013 14:24 Toons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:19 FoxShine wrote:On May 10 2013 14:17 Little-Chimp wrote:On May 10 2013 13:06 TheExile19 wrote:On May 10 2013 13:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Not hard to speculate why he was kicked. The Reddit kids called the sponsors. Why else would they release him over insults only marginally worse than in the past?
Reddit is a pox on society. so what's more childish, your shifting of blame from the person who acted poorly to everyone who isn't interested in bullshit, or people not being interested in bullshit? Anyone who actually called sponsors is a real piece of shit honestly. Not liking the player, boycotting the player is one thing, but it takes someone with a dumpster ass life to actively try to make someone lose their job. QFT: Sponsors bring money to the entire industry. Jeopardizing that for any reason is not good for E-Sports. I dont think Esports knows whats good for Esports. Esports doesnt have 'glamour', or athleticisim (in its physical form), so companies cannot plaster their good looking athletes into underwear ads etc. They have to get exposure to the audience. The audience, of Esports, laps (lapped maybe? not sure of past tense usage at this point, too early) up the personality that is Idra. He marginally went over the line, and only marginally IMO
true.. i guess its more like don't bite the hand that feeds you because you don't like whats being served atm
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On May 10 2013 14:24 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 14:21 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:18 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:17 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:15 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:12 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 14:09 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 14:01 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:
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There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S". Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol. Idra's had real life psychiatrists. Unfortunately I'm afraid you don't understand what this disorder is or even the relevance (or lack thereof) to making the analogy that was made. I'm just saying that neither are you qualified to dismiss anything on the basis of knowledge you don't have. Idra actually has personal problems which may or may not be psychiatric that requires attention from his friends and social circle, what ever they are ain't our business. Unlike you I actually work in a mental health field and realize how poor and crude this analogy is. Idra more likely has psychological problems, not ones requiring psychiatric care. He has a mental block when it comes to performing certain tasks in his chosen field of employment - not a need for medicine. I think my entire point is lost on these forums though, and posters like that in particular, who really don't know anything about psychological disorders and make crude analogies for basically no reason. No... Idra's actually had real life psychiatrists. This is a fact. Ask Incontrol. This happened like 1 1/2 years ago. And I quote Incontrol "he has used a sports PSYCHOLOGIST"... end quote. Are you under the impression I'm defending other people's diagnosis of Greg on this forum? I'm saying that neither are you qualified to diagnose anything. Yeah, my point has gone straight over your head as you seem to not understand the difference between a psychologist and a psychiatrist or the fact that Idra and/or teammates have never said he had "mental problems" but that he used a sports psychologist. I'm not attempting to diagnose anything, I'm attempting to do the opposite. You were the one who grossly misused Stockholm Syndrome as a bad analogy/shot at Idra and his fans. I'm done with this conversation as you seem to be entirely missing the point.
You were talking to a different person. wth?
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