Koreans selecting WCS NA/EU List - Page 63
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
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BeyondCtrL
Sweden642 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:52 lord_nibbler wrote: Again, why? Why would you think any team would have to be transfered anywhere? So, following your example if I wanted to make the German basketball league big I would have to try to 'lure' the LA Lakers to Berlin? Why? What is the use of that? Teams are numerous in Germany, what the league lacks are sponsors, audience and good players. How is the Lakers team of any help if they come over but consequently losing all their sponsors, fans and players? Like I said, I do not get this at all. Because you did not read my post. Seriously if I have to explain to you the reasons why it's beneficial (I literally wrote it, it's not some between the lines ambiguous interpretation), I hardly think it's worth the effort of even convincing you. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:53 Doodsmack wrote: Except the only Koreans to choose NA/EU are the ones with money (foreign teams). They make a living. As you said before progamers aren't in it ONLY for the money, and a current Code S player should choose the competition over some more money. And I will quit my job of I am offered more money elsewhere. This is their job and they do what is best for them. It was never about being the best in the world. It was always about making a living and more doing what you loved. | ||
playa
United States1284 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:55 Plansix wrote: And I will quit my job of I am offered more money elsewhere. This is their job and they do what is best for them. It was never about being the best in the world. It was always about making a living and more doing what you loved. Give this guy a medal. I've been reading the forums the past week and this is the first time I've seen someone make this analogy or even bring up the idea that maybe it's ok to have money as a priority when it comes to your job. Just because you're competing against Joes in a tournament to give yourself the best shot at winning more money, doesn't mean you're practicing against them. And if you're practicing against the best, fuck, maybe you realize "this guy is better than me. Maybe the next tournament I play in should be the one without the guy that always owns the fuck out of me." Nah, where's the honor in being sensible. | ||
sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
But not a whole squad lol. Yea GL NA. | ||
Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:55 Plansix wrote: And I will quit my job of I am offered more money elsewhere. This is their job and they do what is best for them. It was never about being the best in the world. It was always about making a living and more doing what you loved. Really seems like you're pulling things out of your ass for the sake of arguing. Before you said its a little of both, now it's just money. Please think about whether that's contradictory. To claim there are no Korean players who care about being the best is not very discerning. I shouldn't need to explain why. And to repeat, I'm talking about current Code S players. Including MC, who has made hundreds of thousands and is now fleeing the tough competition. | ||
movac
Canada494 Posts
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jhk72
New Zealand35 Posts
This doesn't make any sense if koreans are all going to participate in NA and EU qualifiers. We can all agree that foreigners are so behind right now to koreans. If we have koreans playing in the NA and EU WCS what is the point in having foreign tournaments? Are foreigners going to have a chance? Does anyone expect many foreigners to actually be able to be competitive in a tournament has has this many koreans? I say restrict the number of koreans that can participate in foreign tournaments. Make it interesting enough with some koreans in foreign tournaments but also give some hope for foreigners to be able to compete in the tournament. Discriminate if you have to, please give foreigners hope so that esports outside of korea can develope. For those of you who are implying it is racist to people who care and find this is a legitimate issue, please for the love of god think about what you're saying! Do you not want to give pro players in your own country a hope of being able to be competitive again? CatZ has posted a really good and concise view on this whole matter. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1c1slt/my_views_on_wcsregional_based_leagues_region/ PS. Im am writing this as a korean that is a huge fan of sc2 esports. | ||
Nerski
United States1095 Posts
GG blizz GG This is exactly why this 'region lock' is laughable at best. Blizzard had a huge opportunity here to help build the foundations in each region and this just proves they found a way to drop the ball yet again. | ||
Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
I guess we know who's doing better in practice lolololol GO ACER! | ||
animagne
United Kingdom47 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:04 Thieving Magpie wrote: MMA going to EU, Scarlett playing in Korea. I guess we know who's doing better in practice lolololol GO ACER! Haha, good catch! | ||
Adellund
Denmark92 Posts
On April 10 2013 18:07 Cokefreak wrote: Mvp holy shit! Also whole EG Korean line-up... Well it does kind of make sense, since EG can stay in the EG house in Arizona when going to practice for tournaments (and get rid of jetlag in time) and I reckon that TL players will be allowed to stay for a few days in the EG lair and travel alongside the EG guys when going for those premier tournaments ... also the thing is they can play online for the first year or so, so that part is kind of not breaking it for me... what I worry about is NesTea living in a 24 sqft apartment with a refrigerator full of cup noodle and ramen noodle :O. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:02 Doodsmack wrote: Really seems like you're pulling things out of your ass for the sake of arguing. Before you said its a little of both, now it's just money. Please think about whether that's contradictory. To claim there are no Korean players who care about being the best is not very discerning. I shouldn't need to explain why. Well I love working in law, but I also want to buy a scooter. A lot of Korean players want to be the best, but they also want to make a living and make money. It can be about both for them too, because they are complex people and can want more than one thing. People can be contradictory with what they want. | ||
Gr33d
Germany423 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:51 blackone wrote: The same point as having an English Premier Leauge or a German Bundesliga were half the players aren't English or German, respectively. People like watching the best players play. Your example is very, very bad. 1) The teams (atleast in germany) are FORCED to sustain youth academies, raising talent 2) A high amount of those players are quickly taken into the main roster of the teams, its cheap, the young players are extremely well trained and it raises support from the region 3) There is not only the PL or first division of the Bundesliga. There are structures far deeper than that, you can earn a good living even if you don't play in the top divisions. 4) Even clubs that are not successfull gain tens of thousands visitors to their stadiums, just because its a regional club. And why do they have all this? Because they invested into this, not because someone with millions of cash flew over brazilians (or whatever nationality is currently on top during a point in time X) to play. If you want this, take a look at many clubs that get fostered by some billionaires. They get good players from all over the world, but are forced to buy new ones again and again, simply because next to no talent is gonna emerge from such a team. The "champions league" should be the WCS Season finals, NOT the regional finals. | ||
Miss_Foxy
Singapore109 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:46 vesicular wrote: Does nobody else realize that almost half of that NA list is EG-TL players? And that EG-TL players doing well is NA is great for teams like EG as a whole and TL, the site you're f'n POSTING on? The stupidity of this forum is impressive to say the least. Lol, just noticed that too. | ||
Earendel
Germany5 Posts
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:04 Thieving Magpie wrote: MMA going to EU, Scarlett playing in Korea. I guess we know who's doing better in practice lolololol GO ACER! I think the list only shows which Koreans to play in foreign regions, not which foreigners to play in Korean region. Scarlett may return to Canada and play in NA region and the list don't even care. | ||
sWs
United States409 Posts
good job blizzard, good fucking job. After your 16 invited NA pro's get slaughtered MLG will be hosting WCS Korea 2.0 | ||
Raygun
348 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:03 Nerski wrote: And now your EU and NA representatives!!! A bunch of Koreans, living in Korea ! It will be kind of comical if they show flag names and region representation next to all the competitor's names at the finals. | ||
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