EPTKoreans selecting WCS NA/EU List - Page 38
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Yegwen
Poland80 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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dtz
5834 Posts
On April 10 2013 21:23 baldgye wrote: How so? At the moment because of BW the Korean scene is insane, everything is centered on Seoul the infrastructure is insane, they have coaches lots of team houses all practicing and working together with there own domestic league where they all play and practice for. Outside of Korea there isn't any of that because the rest of the world is pretty big, and so you instead have random team houses here and there with no real relation to anything in particular and little to no infrastructure. Most non-Korean pro's don't live in team houses and don't have access to the environment Korean players do. By allowing Koreans to play in the WSC outside of Korean your killing any chance of that infrastructure to be built up meaning that foreigners for the most part have no realistic chance of being able to compete with Koreans. You should read Catz post if you havn't already, it really highlights everything that is fundamentally wrong with how this is going. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1c1slt/my_views_on_wcsregional_based_leagues_region/ If they allowed region locks, you would still have Koreans coming out of Korean for 'easy' money in tournaments etc and the GSL/Pro League would still be the highest level, but it would give the rest of the world the chance to catch up The Koreans who go to NA/EU will play online with significant lag though. And for those going to EU, they will move there i am pretty sure. Or at least RO16 onwards. They will leave their infrastructure benefits behind and will go to teamhouses in NA/EU. They have no coaches, they will experience cultural shock much like what foreigners experienced in Korea, they will be so tired due to jetlag and travels, etc. The Koreans can transfer their skill and expertise to NA/EU teams who want to build the infrastructure in NA/EU. Additionally, maybe the NA/EU upstarts can't hope to beat MC/MVP in prime condition. but a jetlagged, cultureshocked, coach-less, teamhouse-less MC and MVP? If you want any hope to become good at least you should aim to beat that. I think the goal is to accelerate the growth of Pro Scene in NA and EU. Kinda like how developing countries invite MNCs to set up factories and initiate technological transfer. How MLS invite Beckham / Henry to raise the profile of the local scene and improve the quality of the league. It all depends on how the local scene responds though. If they see it as an opportunity and rise up to the challenge, this can turn out good. If they gave up and saw Koreans as some insurmountable barriers and decided to just rely on streaming income then well it's bad. | ||
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Escape
Canada306 Posts
What is happening!? I want to see local stories, not another Korean dominated tournaments. I would just watch GSL if I want to see that. Somehow, I suspect the local tournament organizers have something to do with this 'requirement' of having koreans involved. | ||
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1handsomE
United States199 Posts
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Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
On April 10 2013 21:30 lookfirewood wrote: I'm pretty sure this doesn't affect proleague? What about GSTL? I believe pro league and GSTL is unaffected. | ||
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SheepleArePeopleToo
Sweden73 Posts
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RiSkysc2
696 Posts
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On April 10 2013 21:35 1handsomE wrote: To those who are saying GSL is dead now, it's basically the same exact thing sans MVP/MC/TaeJa. Pretty sure that Code S will still be far and away the hardest competition (as the best modern players did not leave) For now, sure, but many will obviously be going to EU in the future, sans no changes in format. | ||
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1652 Posts
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Clefairy
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
MVP ? damn europe  america cant compete even with so many and nestea On April 10 2013 21:37 Clefairy wrote: Blizzard ruined GSL. No more MVP, MC, or Nestea playing against the best in the league with the best production is a huge loss for the scene. i said it from the start, everyone was WOW SO COOL but i said it will hurt ... ALOT ... wonder what artosis will say | ||
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Kylo55
Poland64 Posts
On April 10 2013 21:33 KalWarkov wrote: "ha, i choose NA, its the easiest server. ... oh shit, 20 others thought that way" Mvp outsmarted them all. Another laugh Thank you for that Although i think it had more to do with the team for EG,TL,Ax players than picking easiest server, korean mindset is that they are better thatn every foreigner, so they are not planning to avoid any of them you could see this in the video about prohouses by Khaldor. | ||
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-IeZaeL-
Spain327 Posts
Good luck everyone in WCS KR#1 , WCS KR#2 and WCS KR#3 ^_^ | ||
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
On April 10 2013 21:35 1handsomE wrote: To those who are saying GSL is dead now, it's basically the same exact thing sans MVP/MC/TaeJa. Pretty sure that Code S will still be far and away the hardest competition (as the best modern players did not leave) And TBH, MVP and MC are out.... Taeja we will see but with his wrists... | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On April 10 2013 21:36 StarscreamG1 wrote: ahahah, congratulations to the koreans switching. Blizzard didn't respect their value giving same prize money to the 3 regions. They purposely decided against a region lock; they wanted this to happen. | ||
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McBrungus
United States265 Posts
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
On April 10 2013 21:37 -IeZaeL- wrote: koreans playing in EU/NA...and some of them are "invited" hahahaha... if u r good go and win a qualifer at least... Good luck everyone in WCS KR#1 , WCS KR#2 and WCS KR#3 ^_^ At least we will have 3 interesting tourney's instead of 1 | ||
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Deleted User 124618
1142 Posts
On April 10 2013 21:31 Benjamin99 wrote: That´s all fine but what you going to do if you are a new upcoming NA player who cant get sponsorships or teams because there is no point to sponsor a player who will never get any exposure? You want them to live on the street with a laptop playing WCS NC and hope there opponents get disconnects? This thread is full of people who have already decided that Koreans will win everything. I'm just saying, we have already given up hope for "foreigners". And because we believe that we might aswell lie down and let Koreans take all of the money. Nothing will change until someone believes it can be changed. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Most are foreign team Koreans :x | ||
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