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On March 25 2013 15:55 Mahavishnu wrote:
Sundance has said something about something to replace the open bracket at MLG.
Probably a cohesive region based league system?
So this is the "big thing" that blizzard will announce, they finally got rid of extended series for good? 
Mike Moheim, Blizzard CEO along with Kespa: "We finally found a way of killing extended series at MLG"
Rest of the world: Holy shit, YOU GUYS SAVED ESPORTS, NO MORE EXTENDED SERIES!!!
And the whole world united and world peace was achieved at that day.
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On March 25 2013 16:05 l10f wrote:
Apparently OGN is getting paid by Blizzard to broadcast the league under Blizzard's name. OGN has nothing to lose here but KeSPA will take a big hit. I don't know how Proleague can continue without OGN's support, and pretty much all of e-sports in Korea is LoL and SC2. KeSPA doesn't control LoL league and if they lose control of SC2 as well, they're in deep trouble. I dislike this move by Blizzard, it just reminds me what they did to destroy BW in Korea. Now they're going to destroy an organization that pretty much made e-sports happen in Korea. Even though many people dislike KeSPA's practices, you have to admit that they were very effective in getting the job done, which was to stabilize the e-sports industry in Korea.
I don't understand, why can't Kespa survive without OGN? Could you explain the situation for me? I didn't even realize they were that interconnected as Kespa seems to be continually operating proleague while OGN has barely supported SC2 content.
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On March 25 2013 16:05 l10f wrote:
Apparently OGN is getting paid by Blizzard to broadcast the league under Blizzard's name. OGN has nothing to lose here but KeSPA will take a big hit. I don't know how Proleague can continue without OGN's support, and pretty much all of e-sports in Korea is LoL and SC2. KeSPA doesn't control LoL league and if they lose control of SC2 as well, they're in deep trouble. I dislike this move by Blizzard, it just reminds me what they did to destroy BW in Korea. Now they're going to destroy an organization that pretty much made e-sports happen in Korea. Even though many people dislike KeSPA's practices, you have to admit that they were very effective in getting the job done, which was to stabilize the e-sports industry in Korea.
That would be really silly if it's true. That would put Blizzard in direct competition with KeSPA and GOM =/
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afaik theres 1 good news and 1 bad news :[
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maybe some global tournament system functioning online.
something like iccup
but probably some partnership between kespa/esf and a little bit mlg probably
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On March 25 2013 16:10 MCXD wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2013 16:05 l10f wrote:
Apparently OGN is getting paid by Blizzard to broadcast the league under Blizzard's name. OGN has nothing to lose here but KeSPA will take a big hit. I don't know how Proleague can continue without OGN's support, and pretty much all of e-sports in Korea is LoL and SC2. KeSPA doesn't control LoL league and if they lose control of SC2 as well, they're in deep trouble. I dislike this move by Blizzard, it just reminds me what they did to destroy BW in Korea. Now they're going to destroy an organization that pretty much made e-sports happen in Korea. Even though many people dislike KeSPA's practices, you have to admit that they were very effective in getting the job done, which was to stabilize the e-sports industry in Korea. That would be really silly if it's true. That would put Blizzard in direct competition with KeSPA and GOM =/
Maybe just blizzard sponsoring pro league, like they have for gom's blizzard cup in the past or something.
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Will this announcement be as epic heartstone? HEHEHEHEHE
Sounds like a partnership of some sort
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Could this have something to do with why Rain got his Code S seed?
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Aren't KeSPA and Blizzard official partners anyhow?
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I don't see proleague lasting for much longer anyway. They will have to restructure and try something else or die a slow death
I mean they're paying parting and many others with 60k salaries, there is no way that is sustainable for sc2 in Korea (maybe elsewhere)
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
i would hate to see PL abolished, or toned down
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On March 25 2013 16:14 iky43210 wrote:
I don't see proleague lasting for much longer anyway. They will have to restructure and try something else or die a slow death
I mean they're paying parting and many others with 60k salaries, there is no way that is sustainable for sc2 in Korea (maybe elsewhere)
Well Jaedong/flash were making like 200k+ in salary :O.
Dunno I really hope proleague doesn't disappear. It's best team league by far T_T.
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
On March 25 2013 16:10 Geos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2013 16:05 l10f wrote:
Apparently OGN is getting paid by Blizzard to broadcast the league under Blizzard's name. OGN has nothing to lose here but KeSPA will take a big hit. I don't know how Proleague can continue without OGN's support, and pretty much all of e-sports in Korea is LoL and SC2. KeSPA doesn't control LoL league and if they lose control of SC2 as well, they're in deep trouble. I dislike this move by Blizzard, it just reminds me what they did to destroy BW in Korea. Now they're going to destroy an organization that pretty much made e-sports happen in Korea. Even though many people dislike KeSPA's practices, you have to admit that they were very effective in getting the job done, which was to stabilize the e-sports industry in Korea. I don't understand, why can't Kespa survive without OGN? Could you explain the situation for me? I didn't even realize they were that interconnected as Kespa seems to be continually operating proleague while OGN has barely supported SC2 content.
OGN broadcasts half of the Proleague games in Korea currently. OGN is viewable on TV, whereas SPOTV is stream-only service. Basically without OGN, not many Koreans would watch PL.
On March 25 2013 16:10 MCXD wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2013 16:05 l10f wrote:
Apparently OGN is getting paid by Blizzard to broadcast the league under Blizzard's name. OGN has nothing to lose here but KeSPA will take a big hit. I don't know how Proleague can continue without OGN's support, and pretty much all of e-sports in Korea is LoL and SC2. KeSPA doesn't control LoL league and if they lose control of SC2 as well, they're in deep trouble. I dislike this move by Blizzard, it just reminds me what they did to destroy BW in Korea. Now they're going to destroy an organization that pretty much made e-sports happen in Korea. Even though many people dislike KeSPA's practices, you have to admit that they were very effective in getting the job done, which was to stabilize the e-sports industry in Korea. That would be really silly if it's true. That would put Blizzard in direct competition with KeSPA and GOM =/
The article makes it seem like GOM and OGN are part of the plan, just KeSPA is excluded.
I'm just speculating based on my only half-decent knowledge of Korean e-sports system and the two articles linked in the OP.
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If Proleague die, I will be so mad and sad...
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
As usual I'll wait for the actual announcement before I jump to conclusions
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So Blizzard starts investing into esports. Kinda late to the party, but better late than never.
Also, I don´t think of a stronger presence of Blizzard as a bad thing for the market. It´s good that there´s someone who has an interest in SC2 beyond one´s own production.
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
I know from Blizzard's perspective, starting a unified league under their name between GOM and OGN will definitely be great for their exposure. However, as a fan of e-sports, I really wish this doesn't harm the Proleague in any way. I got into e-sports solely because of Proleague, and for an average Korean person, the easiest way to be exposed to the e-sports scene is the PL. It's broadcasted on OGN, which most households have on their TV, and the team aspect is similar to other professional sports. It's much harder to sit down in front of your computer and say "hey I think I'm gonna watch some professional gaming today!" and watch GOMTV or SPOTV streams than come across PL while browsing through channels on your TV.
I support any new SC2 league in Korea, I just don't want it to harm the expansion of e-sports or SC2 as an e-sport in Korea.
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They will be concerned for the longevity of it all but I would be wary of what changes may be to come.
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On March 25 2013 16:19 l10f wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2013 16:10 Geos13 wrote:On March 25 2013 16:05 l10f wrote:
Apparently OGN is getting paid by Blizzard to broadcast the league under Blizzard's name. OGN has nothing to lose here but KeSPA will take a big hit. I don't know how Proleague can continue without OGN's support, and pretty much all of e-sports in Korea is LoL and SC2. KeSPA doesn't control LoL league and if they lose control of SC2 as well, they're in deep trouble. I dislike this move by Blizzard, it just reminds me what they did to destroy BW in Korea. Now they're going to destroy an organization that pretty much made e-sports happen in Korea. Even though many people dislike KeSPA's practices, you have to admit that they were very effective in getting the job done, which was to stabilize the e-sports industry in Korea. I don't understand, why can't Kespa survive without OGN? Could you explain the situation for me? I didn't even realize they were that interconnected as Kespa seems to be continually operating proleague while OGN has barely supported SC2 content. OGN broadcasts half of the Proleague games in Korea currently. OGN is viewable on TV, whereas SPOTV is stream-only service. Basically without OGN, not many Koreans would watch PL. I don't think that's true, look at the left side: http://www.spotv.net/
Looks like they're on some kind of cable systems. Even if they're not as popular as OGN, they're still on TV... it looks like they're showing the NCAA basketball tournament right now, I didn't know anyone outside the US cared about that >_>
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I want to be optimistic, but the biggest reason that SC2 is not that popular in Korea is the game itself not the lack of exposure, money, or things that the the Korean SC2 organizations are doing or not. I guess whatever Blizzard is doing can only help (hopefully). I want SC2 to flourish in Korea, so good luck!
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