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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 25 2013 08:11 GMT
#81
On March 25 2013 17:05 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 16:59 MCXD wrote:
On March 25 2013 16:52 egernya wrote:
Many E-sports concerned people seem not liking this.

Um, the OSL commentator showed how he was depressed recently on his twitter.

Gisado(GSL commentator) and the head-editor of TIG had a conversation like "People will be more surprised when the renaming comes out" when there was a such big trouble with the English client for the first day of GSTL.

Also, lots of fans in Korean are panicking because of the rumor that OSL is over.


Okay, so if OSL and GSL employees don't like it, and the media-in-the-know doesn't like it, why would OGN and GSL go along with it? Why would whatever it is go ahead? Money only goes so far.


Playing devils advocate, what if the new league is actually global with online qualifers going into regionals into global championship. What if OSL and GSL can see the business sense in it but maybe traditionalists or just their inner fan does not like the lack of control or perhaps lack of centralized Korean focus?


Basically WCS or WCG. Which is basically just Koreans stomping on foreigners until they meet each other

I don't really care about any league outside Korea so one unified international league would make me sad.
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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 08:15:34
March 25 2013 08:14 GMT
#82
I guess I wasn't too far off in my musings a few days ago?

On March 21 2013 08:28 Proseat wrote:
Considering OSL reigning champion Rain's mysterious seed into Code S and that HotS-OSL according to DoA is supposed to start back in April as well, there might be some sync/collab thing coming.

I guess we shall see what happens. If OSL really is canceled, that's also a big blow to Doa (who was looking forward to casting SC2 again in April). Either way, one cannot help but perk one's ears when there is talk of renaming and stuff.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
March 25 2013 08:16 GMT
#83
I'm all good for the idea, blizzard needs to step up on this but it just doesn't feel right without an OSL in starcraft...
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 08:17:50
March 25 2013 08:17 GMT
#84
This sounds like OSL and GSL are merging...
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 25 2013 08:17 GMT
#85
$1.8M a year being invested in a league and all i see are people bitching about blizzard getting involved without even knowing what blizzard is doing. seems par for the course on the forums.
Clawfinger
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada221 Posts
March 25 2013 08:21 GMT
#86
Lots of speculating going on right now, you would have to think that with the people involved they will do something for the better right? I'm hoping that they can keep airing SC2 on OGN...
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 08:30:39
March 25 2013 08:22 GMT
#87
It's fucking annoying to see something big come along and nothing but people taking whatever opportunity they can to air out their grievances with Blizzard or sc2. I thought most of you high post people didn't care about OSL/Proleague anymore because it isn't Brood War, at least according to everything I heard back from some familiar names here when the last BW OSL and Proleague happened. Wait for the announcement and details before you jump to foregone conclusions.

Whatever happens, I think that April 4th is going to be a big day for SC2 in Korea. Let's hope for the best.

edit: I just reread the OP. Jesus, 1.8 million a year? That is a HUGE investment into the Korean scene going forward, and that's just what they're STARTING with.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 08:24:08
March 25 2013 08:22 GMT
#88
I dunno... is that really such a big news? It's just effectively OGN starting to broadcast the GSL, right...?

edit:

On March 25 2013 16:05 l10f wrote:
[....]
The last line of DES's article also says that the KeSPA teams are already showing disapproval since Blizzard shows a lack of care for Proleague and they see no reason to send their players to a league sponsored by the organization that shows such a lack of care for KeSPA and its teams that worked so hard to develop the players.


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Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
March 25 2013 08:24 GMT
#89
So Blizzard is hosting a premier tournament and GOM and OGN are just broadcasters of it instead of hosts of their own tournaments? It's kind of sad how 10 years of history was scrapped for 2 million dollars, but this is probably a load off for OGN since they don't have to struggle to look for sponsors anymore. I really liked the control that GOM had over their tournament as well because they were very quick to respond to feedback. It will be weird when they become just another broadcaster even though they're really damn good at that now.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
March 25 2013 08:24 GMT
#90
There should be like a SC2 Korea Superbowl:

OSL vs GSL Champion!

PL vs GSTL Champion!
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
March 25 2013 08:26 GMT
#91
On March 25 2013 17:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
$1.8M a year being invested in a league and all i see are people bitching about blizzard getting involved without even knowing what blizzard is doing. seems par for the course on the forums.


There's a reason people are skeptical when it comes to Blizzard's decisions regarding Korea.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 08:28:12
March 25 2013 08:26 GMT
#92
On March 25 2013 17:21 Clawfinger wrote:
Lots of speculating going on right now, you would have to think that with the people involved they will do something for the better right? I'm hoping that they can keep airing SC2 on OGN...


nah people will always do something for their own good. If I understand this correctly, Blizzard essentially buy the OSL, and they already had the GSL as well (according to OP). However what they gonna do with the two leagues is largely unknown
Meanwhile, GOM & OGN revert to a pure broadcast station only, one for the internet and one for the television.

the worst thing about this? A Blizzard starleague with a map pool full of ladder maps. Beat it
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
March 25 2013 08:28 GMT
#93
tldr: Blizz wants to be Riot
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6460 Posts
March 25 2013 08:28 GMT
#94
On March 25 2013 17:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
$1.8M a year being invested in a league and all i see are people bitching about blizzard getting involved without even knowing what blizzard is doing. seems par for the course on the forums.

I feel like the reason we have a discussion forum with threads about different topics is that people can come and offer their opinions, even speculation, even if it contradicts or dissents from what other people are saying. In this case, we do know Blizzard's history in Korea hasn't been perfect, so there may be some stock to the idea that they are, like the owner of an exotic pet, messing with something they don't fully understand.
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
March 25 2013 08:29 GMT
#95
Don't really want to make much of a comment since it's not really the official announcement but rather a lot of rumour stuff (though its probably spot on). But:

On March 25 2013 17:28 figq wrote:
tldr: Blizz wants to be Riot


Was instantly my first thought tbh.
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
March 25 2013 08:30 GMT
#96
I knew that LoL was demolishing SC2 in Korea but THIS bad...it's just sad. I can't see how this type of investment is sustainable for Blizzard, or how the scene can support the absolute wealth of progamers in Korea. I mean, 7 KeSPA teams and even more eSF teams? That's hundreds of progamers in a scene that really can't support it...
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 25 2013 08:30 GMT
#97
heres more whining than in a 2011 lr thread
i dont like it
stop brainlessly bashing blizzard
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
March 25 2013 08:34 GMT
#98
On March 25 2013 17:30 teddyoojo wrote:
heres more whining than in a 2011 lr thread
i dont like it
stop brainlessly bashing blizzard


it's brainless, the proof is because it isn't your opinion!!!!11111
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
March 25 2013 08:35 GMT
#99
On March 25 2013 17:30 Ruscour wrote:
I knew that LoL was demolishing SC2 in Korea but THIS bad...it's just sad. I can't see how this type of investment is sustainable for Blizzard, or how the scene can support the absolute wealth of progamers in Korea. I mean, 7 KeSPA teams and even more eSF teams? That's hundreds of progamers in a scene that really can't support it...

wait what... could you explain your line of reasoning regarding this O_o.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 25 2013 08:36 GMT
#100
On March 25 2013 17:34 xuanzue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 17:30 teddyoojo wrote:
heres more whining than in a 2011 lr thread
i dont like it
stop brainlessly bashing blizzard


it's brainless, the proof is because it isn't your opinion!!!!11111

no the proof is your complete lack of proof in bashing blizzard BEFORE ANYTHING HAS BEEN ANOUNCED
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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