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DoA
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)599 Posts
March 25 2013 07:26 GMT
#41
The times, they are a-changing.

You'll have more info pretty soon. I wish companies out here were a bit more prompt on delivering news, but this is how it is.
I cast, therefore I am.
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
March 25 2013 07:27 GMT
#42
Proleague ans gstl merge plsss
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 07:30:06
March 25 2013 07:27 GMT
#43
Well why did OGN kinda shaft KeSPA in the first place? If OGN is suddenly willing to partner up with Blizzard/GOM over KeSPA, surely it would take something really crazy to make them turn completely tail on their 10 year partner. Besides, aren't GOM and OGN competitors themselves, as broadcasting companies? Why would they ever want to work together?
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
March 25 2013 07:27 GMT
#44
On March 25 2013 16:25 bduddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 16:19 l10f wrote:
On March 25 2013 16:10 Geos13 wrote:
On March 25 2013 16:05 l10f wrote:
Apparently OGN is getting paid by Blizzard to broadcast the league under Blizzard's name. OGN has nothing to lose here but KeSPA will take a big hit. I don't know how Proleague can continue without OGN's support, and pretty much all of e-sports in Korea is LoL and SC2. KeSPA doesn't control LoL league and if they lose control of SC2 as well, they're in deep trouble. I dislike this move by Blizzard, it just reminds me what they did to destroy BW in Korea. Now they're going to destroy an organization that pretty much made e-sports happen in Korea. Even though many people dislike KeSPA's practices, you have to admit that they were very effective in getting the job done, which was to stabilize the e-sports industry in Korea.


I don't understand, why can't Kespa survive without OGN? Could you explain the situation for me? I didn't even realize they were that interconnected as Kespa seems to be continually operating proleague while OGN has barely supported SC2 content.


OGN broadcasts half of the Proleague games in Korea currently. OGN is viewable on TV, whereas SPOTV is stream-only service. Basically without OGN, not many Koreans would watch PL.
I don't think that's true, look at the left side: http://www.spotv.net/
Looks like they're on some kind of cable systems. Even if they're not as popular as OGN, they're still on TV... it looks like they're showing the NCAA basketball tournament right now, I didn't know anyone outside the US cared about that >_>


I stand corrected. Their production value is much lower than OGN, however.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 25 2013 07:28 GMT
#45
On March 25 2013 16:24 l10f wrote:
I know from Blizzard's perspective, starting a unified league under their name between GOM and OGN will definitely be great for their exposure. However, as a fan of e-sports, I really wish this doesn't harm the Proleague in any way. I got into e-sports solely because of Proleague, and for an average Korean person, the easiest way to be exposed to the e-sports scene is the PL. It's broadcasted on OGN, which most households have on their TV, and the team aspect is similar to other professional sports. It's much harder to sit down in front of your computer and say "hey I think I'm gonna watch some professional gaming today!" and watch GOMTV or SPOTV streams than come across PL while browsing through channels on your TV.

I support any new SC2 league in Korea, I just don't want it to harm the expansion of e-sports or SC2 as an e-sport in Korea.

why so much naysaying before there is even an announcement....
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
March 25 2013 07:29 GMT
#46
On March 25 2013 16:28 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 16:24 l10f wrote:
I know from Blizzard's perspective, starting a unified league under their name between GOM and OGN will definitely be great for their exposure. However, as a fan of e-sports, I really wish this doesn't harm the Proleague in any way. I got into e-sports solely because of Proleague, and for an average Korean person, the easiest way to be exposed to the e-sports scene is the PL. It's broadcasted on OGN, which most households have on their TV, and the team aspect is similar to other professional sports. It's much harder to sit down in front of your computer and say "hey I think I'm gonna watch some professional gaming today!" and watch GOMTV or SPOTV streams than come across PL while browsing through channels on your TV.

I support any new SC2 league in Korea, I just don't want it to harm the expansion of e-sports or SC2 as an e-sport in Korea.

why so much naysaying before there is even an announcement....


Sorry, I'm just commenting as if everything the article is implying was true, which is silly. The article is speculating as well, so I apologize for getting so heated up. It's really late at night after all
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5584 Posts
March 25 2013 07:31 GMT
#47
On March 25 2013 16:27 MCXD wrote:
Well why did OGN kinda shaft KeSPA in the first place? If OGN is suddenly willing to partner up with Blizzard/GOM over KeSPA, surely it would take something really crazy to make them turn completely tail on their 10 year partner. Besides, aren't GOM and OGN competitors themselves, as broadcasting companies? Why would they ever want to work together?

Because everybody benefits. It's the same reason MBCGame and OGN cooperated to broadcast a unified Proleague over so many years.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
March 25 2013 07:32 GMT
#48
A new league or some combo league of kespa and esf or anything like that would be fine. Anything that destroys the GSL I will protest, and anything that destroys proleague I will protest, or any exclusion of kespa I will protest. Hoping for a league thatbrings together the best of kespa and esf a few times a year.
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
March 25 2013 07:32 GMT
#49
moar announcement of announcement, yeah!!


i'm guessing blizzard wants its own LCS (lol championship), while maintaining the big events (MLG, dreamhacks,...)
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Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
March 25 2013 07:33 GMT
#50
This is very interesting.. I wonder what Blizz has in mind.
Jaedong <3
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
March 25 2013 07:35 GMT
#51
It's a known fact that Blizzard hates kespa.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 25 2013 07:36 GMT
#52
http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1484371&category=13438

seem like april 3rd is the date for announcement
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
March 25 2013 07:36 GMT
#53
On March 25 2013 16:36 opterown wrote:
http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1484371&category=13438

seem like april 3rd is the date for announcement


The day before code S starts ^_^
H0RNET
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand138 Posts
March 25 2013 07:38 GMT
#54
Blizzard Action -> Kespa Disband -> Kespa Release player/Staff -> Player/Staff Join ESF -> EPIC GSL/GSTL -> 1m Viewer -> Profit
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egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 07:41:39
March 25 2013 07:38 GMT
#55
Oh, I wrote the name of the topic really nonsense... sigh...

Can someone tell me how to edit the title?

It was to be "A very big change in KR SC2 scene will be announced(0404)", but I, somehow, omitted the "change" making it shorter.
egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 07:45:20
March 25 2013 07:42 GMT
#56
And, yes, it must be (03/04) in KST.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 07:47:45
March 25 2013 07:46 GMT
#57
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well, ethan_ahn doesn't like it



gom_chung, on the other hand, seems to like it http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1aymqg/something_very_big_in_koreas_sc2_scene_will_be/c91ykix
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Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
March 25 2013 07:46 GMT
#58
On March 25 2013 16:27 MCXD wrote:
Well why did OGN kinda shaft KeSPA in the first place? If OGN is suddenly willing to partner up with Blizzard/GOM over KeSPA, surely it would take something really crazy to make them turn completely tail on their 10 year partner. Besides, aren't GOM and OGN competitors themselves, as broadcasting companies? Why would they ever want to work together?


maybe they talk some sense into them or maybe money is the root of all unity
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
March 25 2013 07:49 GMT
#59
This was and is inevitable. Two separate leagues in Korea and one big developer seeking consolidation has zero prospect of a yin and yang future.
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egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
March 25 2013 07:52 GMT
#60
Many E-sports concerned people seem not liking this.

Um, the OSL commentator showed how he was depressed recently on his twitter.

Gisado(GSL commentator) and the head-editor of TIG had a conversation like "People will be more surprised when the renaming comes out" when there was a such big trouble with the English client for the first day of GSTL.

Also, lots of fans in Korean are panicking because of the rumor that OSL is over.
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