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A very big change in KR SC2 scene will be announced(0403)…
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Champi
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BronzeKnee
United States5226 Posts
On March 25 2013 17:17 dAPhREAk wrote: $1.8M a year being invested in a league and all i see are people bitching about blizzard getting involved without even knowing what blizzard is doing. seems par for the course on the forums. Well, given their history you have to admit that often when Blizzard gets involved bad things happen... I mean Blizzard really blew the whole introduction of SC2 to Korea... The issue here is that the only thing Blizzard seems to doing lately is trying to figure out a way to make more money, not to necessarily improve their game or the league. Unfortunately Blizzard doesn't seem to realize those things go hand in hand. Look at Diablo 3, they added in a feature to make money and the result was that it ruined the game, as the whole game revolves around buying and selling items which has the side effect of handing Blizzard money. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19385 Posts
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
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CoL_DarkstaR
Germany649 Posts
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
Oh, right... I just remembered KWN uses massive numbers to denote very small amounts. It's like the Lira used to be. So, I guess Blizzard are investing a couple of million dollars into ostracizing KeSPA and rearranging the face of SC2 eSports in Korea. This should be entertaining. Time to bunker down. | ||
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sLiMpoweR
United States430 Posts
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vesicular
United States1311 Posts
If this affects PL negatively in any way then I'll be really pissed. PL is the only interesting and unique league going. Everything else is basically just a bracket tourney on mostly ladder maps. They also better attempt to help Kespa and not screw them. Say what you want about Kespa but they're the most pro of all the organizations because they treat it like an actual sport and not as a marketing gimmick. Given Blizzard's recent past, I'd be more concerned they want to turn SC2 in to the latter. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
So this would help OGN financially and make use of their know how in Korean market, while GSL can play to their strength in their Foreign market. | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
On March 26 2013 00:52 vesicular wrote: The fact that there's a good chunk of money being put into the system in Korea is a good thing. The fact that it's Blizzard worries me as as they don't have a good track record when they try to get their hands into esports in Korea. If this affects PL negatively in any way then I'll be really pissed. PL is the only interesting and unique league going. Everything else is basically just a bracket tourney on mostly ladder maps. They also better attempt to help Kespa and not screw them. Say what you want about Kespa but they're the most pro of all the organizations because they treat it like an actual sport and not as a marketing gimmick. Given Blizzard's recent past, I'd be more concerned they want to turn SC2 in to the latter. you never watched GSL, do you? And the fact that it's held on mostly ladder maps comes from Blizzard taking GSL maps as Ladder maps. | ||
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wUndertUnge
United States1126 Posts
On March 26 2013 00:31 BronzeKnee wrote: The issue here is that the only thing Blizzard seems to doing lately is trying to figure out a way to make more money, not to necessarily improve their game or the league. Unfortunately Blizzard doesn't seem to realize those things go hand in hand. Look at Diablo 3, they added in a feature to make money and the result was that it ruined the game, as the whole game revolves around buying and selling items which has the side effect of handing Blizzard money. This isn’t fair. First of all, yes money is on the mind of any business, but to say that that’s ALL they’re interested in is too extreme. Sure, they’ve made money hand over fist with WoW and a slew of their other games, but that doesn’t mean they’ve lost their integrity. Sure they’ve gotten a little big and maybe even lost their center and bombed with Diablo 3, but with Starcraft 2 they’ve delivered a game that they continue to support. If they were really so money-grubbing, they wouldn’t have allowed half of the features like shared replays for WoL players, opting instead to only make that available to HoTS players. Anyways, I do think it’s important to be critical, but also to be fair. | ||
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
Best thing they could possibly announce now though as far as I'm concerned is combining GSTL and Proleague :D | ||
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
There really is no point to hold two similar individual league at the same time, same place. And Blizzard surely likes to make kespa more open to other SC2 scene other than Proleague | ||
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Drium
United States888 Posts
Seems kind of similar to what Riot is doing to league with LCS. Even though it is putting more money in the scene I have to say I prefer having a bunch of tournaments run by 3rd parties and funded by external sponsors to centralized tournaments run by the game company. Although, for the Korean scene, it has never really worked like that so I guess I don't care if it's Blizzard's tournament or Gom/OGN/Kespa's. I guess I just dislike the trend of game companies wanting absolute control over their game and the surrounding community. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 26 2013 01:22 Drium wrote: So Blizzard basically just bought the rights to OSL? Or is there some other component to this that I'm missing? Seems kind of similar to what Riot is doing to league with LCS. Even though it is putting more money in the scene I have to say I prefer having a bunch of tournaments run by 3rd parties and funded by external sponsors to centralized tournaments run by the game company. Although, for the Korean scene, it has never really worked like that so I guess I don't care if it's Blizzard's tournament or Gom/OGN/Kespa's. I guess I just dislike the trend of game companies wanting absolute control over their game and the surrounding community. I think the Riot system is better, personally. They put rules in place to make sure all events make sense and factor into the larger, world wide system. They have ways for up and comming teams to win big events without having to go against the top players(like all the teams in the LCS cannot compete in MLG, though their B-teams can). They also have rules for trades and other systems in places to make sure everything is as close to fair as possible. And their focus on players being able to rise up through a set system is very encouraging. I think Blizzard being involved is a good thing for Korea and everyone. Right now there aren't enough reasons for the leagues to work together and fosters a robust scene with all levels of play. That system might emerge without Blizzard, but I am not willing to bet on it with all the different leagues having their own goals. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On March 25 2013 15:51 canikizu wrote: LAN coming? nah who am i kidding. doubt it lol although it would be awesome! Interesting news, wonder what the reasoning is behind GSL+OSL merger or combination if that's the case. Best to wait for now | ||
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Irre
United States646 Posts
On March 26 2013 01:37 Plansix wrote: I think the Riot system is better, personally. They put rules in place to make sure all events make sense and factor into the larger, world wide system. They have ways for up and comming teams to win big events without having to go against the top players(like all the teams in the LCS cannot compete in MLG, though their B-teams can). They also have rules for trades and other systems in places to make sure everything is as close to fair as possible. And their focus on players being able to rise up through a set system is very encouraging. I think Blizzard being involved is a good thing for Korea and everyone. Right now there aren't enough reasons for the leagues to work together and fosters a robust scene with all levels of play. That system might emerge without Blizzard, but I am not willing to bet on it with all the different leagues having their own goals. Honestly do you ever stop going on about giving foreigners free money for not living in Korea and working hard? Ofc you like the Riot System better because its much more about the "white kids", despite even for LoL the Asian scenes are already becoming way better. I will withhold judgement until announcement. Would be nice to see some cooperation between all the leagues in Korea, but I hope that they don't get rid of any of them. Except maybe OSL because I don't really enjoy the format as much as GSL, but it does have so much history.. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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