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Azhrei16
Profile Joined August 2011
United States284 Posts
March 25 2013 17:34 GMT
#301
On March 26 2013 02:29 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 02:21 Azhrei16 wrote:
On March 26 2013 02:13 StarStruck wrote:
On March 25 2013 23:12 docvoc wrote:
On March 25 2013 23:07 StarStruck wrote:
On March 25 2013 23:04 Zealously wrote:
On March 25 2013 23:02 StarStruck wrote:
Well this is perplexing news. I wonder how the mega corporations backing KeSPA feel about this.


It's not really much "news" at this point. Rumours, rather


The rumblings make perfect sense though when we look at the timeline. We knew Blizzard wanted to do something more with the Korean scene and them going directly to OGN considering the current t.v. scheduling and the way PL is scheduled and streamed? I'm sure we'll be hearing more about this soon.

On March 25 2013 23:05 Klipsys wrote:
Free to play multiplayer?


I assure you that won't be happening.

I doubt they can go over KeSPA's head on this one. We have to remember that KeSPA is a government organization, they aren't a private firm; furthermore, with their new head being a supposedly powerful Korean politician (who I'm sure has enormous connections) in the Korean parliament, I doubt Blizz will be able to get rid of KeSPA. SKTelecom and SKplanet along with the other corporations that fund the different games, like Olympus are also larger corporations than Blizz, so I don't think they would be too in favor of Blizz coming in and tried to take over.


Um, I don't think they're trying to get rid of them. It makes sense for Blizzard to try and reach an agreement between GOM and OGN as their Korean broadcasters and unite Leagues. They certainly are trying to position themselves to have more control over the scene. That's for sure.

On March 26 2013 02:13 Azhrei16 wrote:
On March 26 2013 02:02 Pimpmuckl wrote:
On March 25 2013 15:51 canikizu wrote:
LAN coming?


Step the fuck down son, it would be all over the newspapers, airplanes in the sky would play the news propaganda style and the military would make a parade because it would be so sick.

Alright, back to not beeing retarded:

Is it only me beeing HYPED AS FUCK? Love it!


On March 26 2013 02:00 Azhrei16 wrote:
I wish Blizzard would put this much effort and attention into the foreigner/American/European scene. It seems like everyone except Korea gets ignored now and that really sucks. I guess the foreigner scene truly is on the way out it seems... regardless, it will be interesting what this news means for Gom and Kespa.


Wat? Blizzard sponsors every second crappy tournament in eu/us if i'm not mistaken. They did not care enough about SC2 in Korea where it could have been huge and now try to "fix" this stuff and finally we see major steps forward in the Korean Scene. And also WCS was/is awesome, the price pools were insane for the competition and it was great for smaller countries.


They give large amounts of money and help with the tournaments? Or do they just plaster their name on them since it is their game? I understand Starcraft hasn't been where they or we have wanted it in Korea, I never said it was a bad thing. I would just like the same amount of attentiveness to the other scenes. The American scene is basically dead. WCS was awesome! However, that is a once a year thing if I am not mistaken. Not daily/monthly tournaments for foreigners.

EDIT: Just wanted to say nothing in this post is sarcasm, I am generally interested and would like to know


Remember how Sundance wanted to set-up a permanent studio in Columbus? Yeah. Anyway, they found their offices in New York to be convenient and there's still plenty of lans/tournaments in NA. Nothing wrong with centralization and you guys should be fortunate to have MLG and NASL still going.


MLG and NASL have been completely dominated by Koreans, though. I am just saying it would be nice to see some tournaments where it's only foreigners. I would love to watch something with Nony, Idra, Huk, qxc, goswser, Vibe, Major, facing off against each other.


I'm going to roll me eyes now. It comes down to rewarding the players who deserve it most and you can go all nationalist when it comes to the WCS/WCG. I'm all about having players earn their keep and put the time into precision practice. With that said, the system is more than fair when it comes to those tournaments and there are tons of foreigners who have always competed in them.


No need to roll your eyes, friend. I understand your opinion, the players who put in the time and show their hard work through solid game play and wins should be the ones who are rewarded. I'm not saying I am getting sick of watching Starcraft 2, not at all. Deep down inside, in my own opinion, I would just like to see some of our old "foreigner hopes" get some key wins and grow some confidence in their play. Thank you for the response
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
March 25 2013 17:37 GMT
#302
No OSL would be sad..but I hope the news is still good.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
March 25 2013 17:38 GMT
#303
Whatever this is, if it means we will lose any of the following:

-OSL
-Proleague
-some of the Kespa teams/players

it will be a sad day for Starcraft. Even though in the end it may be a good day, it will be very bittersweet.

+ Show Spoiler [brb listening to] +
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 17:43:31
March 25 2013 17:40 GMT
#304
On March 26 2013 02:34 Azhrei16 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 02:29 StarStruck wrote:
On March 26 2013 02:21 Azhrei16 wrote:
On March 26 2013 02:13 StarStruck wrote:
On March 25 2013 23:12 docvoc wrote:
On March 25 2013 23:07 StarStruck wrote:
On March 25 2013 23:04 Zealously wrote:
On March 25 2013 23:02 StarStruck wrote:
Well this is perplexing news. I wonder how the mega corporations backing KeSPA feel about this.


It's not really much "news" at this point. Rumours, rather


The rumblings make perfect sense though when we look at the timeline. We knew Blizzard wanted to do something more with the Korean scene and them going directly to OGN considering the current t.v. scheduling and the way PL is scheduled and streamed? I'm sure we'll be hearing more about this soon.

On March 25 2013 23:05 Klipsys wrote:
Free to play multiplayer?


I assure you that won't be happening.

I doubt they can go over KeSPA's head on this one. We have to remember that KeSPA is a government organization, they aren't a private firm; furthermore, with their new head being a supposedly powerful Korean politician (who I'm sure has enormous connections) in the Korean parliament, I doubt Blizz will be able to get rid of KeSPA. SKTelecom and SKplanet along with the other corporations that fund the different games, like Olympus are also larger corporations than Blizz, so I don't think they would be too in favor of Blizz coming in and tried to take over.


Um, I don't think they're trying to get rid of them. It makes sense for Blizzard to try and reach an agreement between GOM and OGN as their Korean broadcasters and unite Leagues. They certainly are trying to position themselves to have more control over the scene. That's for sure.

On March 26 2013 02:13 Azhrei16 wrote:
On March 26 2013 02:02 Pimpmuckl wrote:
On March 25 2013 15:51 canikizu wrote:
LAN coming?


Step the fuck down son, it would be all over the newspapers, airplanes in the sky would play the news propaganda style and the military would make a parade because it would be so sick.

Alright, back to not beeing retarded:

Is it only me beeing HYPED AS FUCK? Love it!


On March 26 2013 02:00 Azhrei16 wrote:
I wish Blizzard would put this much effort and attention into the foreigner/American/European scene. It seems like everyone except Korea gets ignored now and that really sucks. I guess the foreigner scene truly is on the way out it seems... regardless, it will be interesting what this news means for Gom and Kespa.


Wat? Blizzard sponsors every second crappy tournament in eu/us if i'm not mistaken. They did not care enough about SC2 in Korea where it could have been huge and now try to "fix" this stuff and finally we see major steps forward in the Korean Scene. And also WCS was/is awesome, the price pools were insane for the competition and it was great for smaller countries.


They give large amounts of money and help with the tournaments? Or do they just plaster their name on them since it is their game? I understand Starcraft hasn't been where they or we have wanted it in Korea, I never said it was a bad thing. I would just like the same amount of attentiveness to the other scenes. The American scene is basically dead. WCS was awesome! However, that is a once a year thing if I am not mistaken. Not daily/monthly tournaments for foreigners.

EDIT: Just wanted to say nothing in this post is sarcasm, I am generally interested and would like to know


Remember how Sundance wanted to set-up a permanent studio in Columbus? Yeah. Anyway, they found their offices in New York to be convenient and there's still plenty of lans/tournaments in NA. Nothing wrong with centralization and you guys should be fortunate to have MLG and NASL still going.


MLG and NASL have been completely dominated by Koreans, though. I am just saying it would be nice to see some tournaments where it's only foreigners. I would love to watch something with Nony, Idra, Huk, qxc, goswser, Vibe, Major, facing off against each other.


I'm going to roll me eyes now. It comes down to rewarding the players who deserve it most and you can go all nationalist when it comes to the WCS/WCG. I'm all about having players earn their keep and put the time into precision practice. With that said, the system is more than fair when it comes to those tournaments and there are tons of foreigners who have always competed in them.


No need to roll your eyes, friend. I understand your opinion, the players who put in the time and show their hard work through solid game play and wins should be the ones who are rewarded. I'm not saying I am getting sick of watching Starcraft 2, not at all. Deep down inside, in my own opinion, I would just like to see some of our old "foreigner hopes" get some key wins and grow some confidence in their play. Thank you for the response


I'd like to see them do well too and I can only see that happening if more players go all-in by moving to Korea.

On March 26 2013 02:38 Ammanas wrote:
Whatever this is, if it means we will lose any of the following:

-OSL
-Proleague
-some of the Kespa teams/players

it will be a sad day for Starcraft. Even though in the end it may be a good day, it will be very bittersweet.

+ Show Spoiler [brb listening to] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW5CXvBp9B4


I actually don't mind the name changes so much. In fact, I think it's time considering this is a different game. I really dislike the fact they were using both bw and sc2 stats in their breakdowns. They should be separate.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 17:46:49
March 25 2013 17:44 GMT
#305
When people complained about Blizzard not supporting the pro scene in Starcraft, they had the NA/EU scene in mind, but Blizzard, as it turns out, had other plans. I wonder whether Blizzard's new found support of the pro scene was due to Riot. After all, a partnership with OGN, the biggest broadcaster of LoL in Korea, has its benefits in the competition with Riot.
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
March 25 2013 17:48 GMT
#306
On March 26 2013 02:44 Azarkon wrote:
When people complained about Blizzard not supporting the pro scene in Starcraft, they had the NA/EU scene in mind, but Blizzard, as it turns out, had other plans. I wonder whether Blizzard's new found support of the pro scene was due to Riot. After all, a partnership with OGN, the biggest broadcaster of LoL in Korea, has its benefits in the competition with Riot.

I don't know. Sundance on Real Talk made it seem like he had news for MLG that he couldn't say too. Could all be related.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 25 2013 17:48 GMT
#307
On March 26 2013 02:40 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 02:34 Azhrei16 wrote:
On March 26 2013 02:29 StarStruck wrote:
On March 26 2013 02:21 Azhrei16 wrote:
On March 26 2013 02:13 StarStruck wrote:
On March 25 2013 23:12 docvoc wrote:
On March 25 2013 23:07 StarStruck wrote:
On March 25 2013 23:04 Zealously wrote:
On March 25 2013 23:02 StarStruck wrote:
Well this is perplexing news. I wonder how the mega corporations backing KeSPA feel about this.


It's not really much "news" at this point. Rumours, rather


The rumblings make perfect sense though when we look at the timeline. We knew Blizzard wanted to do something more with the Korean scene and them going directly to OGN considering the current t.v. scheduling and the way PL is scheduled and streamed? I'm sure we'll be hearing more about this soon.

On March 25 2013 23:05 Klipsys wrote:
Free to play multiplayer?


I assure you that won't be happening.

I doubt they can go over KeSPA's head on this one. We have to remember that KeSPA is a government organization, they aren't a private firm; furthermore, with their new head being a supposedly powerful Korean politician (who I'm sure has enormous connections) in the Korean parliament, I doubt Blizz will be able to get rid of KeSPA. SKTelecom and SKplanet along with the other corporations that fund the different games, like Olympus are also larger corporations than Blizz, so I don't think they would be too in favor of Blizz coming in and tried to take over.


Um, I don't think they're trying to get rid of them. It makes sense for Blizzard to try and reach an agreement between GOM and OGN as their Korean broadcasters and unite Leagues. They certainly are trying to position themselves to have more control over the scene. That's for sure.

On March 26 2013 02:13 Azhrei16 wrote:
On March 26 2013 02:02 Pimpmuckl wrote:
On March 25 2013 15:51 canikizu wrote:
LAN coming?


Step the fuck down son, it would be all over the newspapers, airplanes in the sky would play the news propaganda style and the military would make a parade because it would be so sick.

Alright, back to not beeing retarded:

Is it only me beeing HYPED AS FUCK? Love it!


On March 26 2013 02:00 Azhrei16 wrote:
I wish Blizzard would put this much effort and attention into the foreigner/American/European scene. It seems like everyone except Korea gets ignored now and that really sucks. I guess the foreigner scene truly is on the way out it seems... regardless, it will be interesting what this news means for Gom and Kespa.


Wat? Blizzard sponsors every second crappy tournament in eu/us if i'm not mistaken. They did not care enough about SC2 in Korea where it could have been huge and now try to "fix" this stuff and finally we see major steps forward in the Korean Scene. And also WCS was/is awesome, the price pools were insane for the competition and it was great for smaller countries.


They give large amounts of money and help with the tournaments? Or do they just plaster their name on them since it is their game? I understand Starcraft hasn't been where they or we have wanted it in Korea, I never said it was a bad thing. I would just like the same amount of attentiveness to the other scenes. The American scene is basically dead. WCS was awesome! However, that is a once a year thing if I am not mistaken. Not daily/monthly tournaments for foreigners.

EDIT: Just wanted to say nothing in this post is sarcasm, I am generally interested and would like to know


Remember how Sundance wanted to set-up a permanent studio in Columbus? Yeah. Anyway, they found their offices in New York to be convenient and there's still plenty of lans/tournaments in NA. Nothing wrong with centralization and you guys should be fortunate to have MLG and NASL still going.


MLG and NASL have been completely dominated by Koreans, though. I am just saying it would be nice to see some tournaments where it's only foreigners. I would love to watch something with Nony, Idra, Huk, qxc, goswser, Vibe, Major, facing off against each other.


I'm going to roll me eyes now. It comes down to rewarding the players who deserve it most and you can go all nationalist when it comes to the WCS/WCG. I'm all about having players earn their keep and put the time into precision practice. With that said, the system is more than fair when it comes to those tournaments and there are tons of foreigners who have always competed in them.


No need to roll your eyes, friend. I understand your opinion, the players who put in the time and show their hard work through solid game play and wins should be the ones who are rewarded. I'm not saying I am getting sick of watching Starcraft 2, not at all. Deep down inside, in my own opinion, I would just like to see some of our old "foreigner hopes" get some key wins and grow some confidence in their play. Thank you for the response


I'd like to see them do well too and I can only see that happening if more players go all-in by moving to Korea.


The problem is that it is a little unreasonable to expect players to emigrate to another country just to have a chance at MGL. Especially when MGL has been seeding or creating brackets for top Kespa players into their last few events. It's not really a level playing field when the best players get more advantages than the someone trying to rise. Going to Korea train is great and all players should do it, but only if they same chances of qualifying as the Korean pros.
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dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
March 25 2013 17:49 GMT
#308
On March 26 2013 02:31 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 01:53 Irre wrote:
On March 26 2013 01:37 Plansix wrote:
On March 26 2013 01:22 Drium wrote:
So Blizzard basically just bought the rights to OSL? Or is there some other component to this that I'm missing?

Seems kind of similar to what Riot is doing to league with LCS. Even though it is putting more money in the scene I have to say I prefer having a bunch of tournaments run by 3rd parties and funded by external sponsors to centralized tournaments run by the game company. Although, for the Korean scene, it has never really worked like that so I guess I don't care if it's Blizzard's tournament or Gom/OGN/Kespa's. I guess I just dislike the trend of game companies wanting absolute control over their game and the surrounding community.


I think the Riot system is better, personally. They put rules in place to make sure all events make sense and factor into the larger, world wide system. They have ways for up and comming teams to win big events without having to go against the top players(like all the teams in the LCS cannot compete in MLG, though their B-teams can). They also have rules for trades and other systems in places to make sure everything is as close to fair as possible. And their focus on players being able to rise up through a set system is very encouraging.

I think Blizzard being involved is a good thing for Korea and everyone. Right now there aren't enough reasons for the leagues to work together and fosters a robust scene with all levels of play. That system might emerge without Blizzard, but I am not willing to bet on it with all the different leagues having their own goals.


Honestly do you ever stop going on about giving foreigners free money for not living in Korea and working hard? Ofc you like the Riot System better because its much more about the "white kids", despite even for LoL the Asian scenes are already becoming way better.

I will withhold judgement until announcement. Would be nice to see some cooperation between all the leagues in Korea, but I hope that they don't get rid of any of them. Except maybe OSL because I don't really enjoy the format as much as GSL, but it does have so much history..


Not until MGL and other NA events stop providing special brackets, free plane tickets and hotel stays to Korean teams and players just to assure they attend their events. Or did everyone forget that the most recent MGL system had a specific system to assure that Korean players qualified for the event? Or the MLG vs Proleague Invitational from 2012? which might as well have been called, "Make sure Proleague player do not need to go through the open bracket" event.

Seriously, high level Korean players get enough free passes to NA events, seeds and special rules to assure they will attend. I think it is complete BS that an underdog NA player had to go through the entire open bracket MGL winter 2012, but Kespa players had a special rule made up so they can avoid the open bracket.

The Riot system is better because it lets teams compete on their own space and rise to the top. The top ranked NA team just got shut down by a high level Korean team at a recent event. The NA team said they overthought the match up and their star players got focused won. They also said they are preparing for their next show down with the Korean team at another major event. That is way more exciting than the Korean team being seeded into the top of the NA league to crush the NA top team.


I rather interpret this as a balance whine more than anything.

If Koreans are the best players, then it makes perfect sense that event organizers bend over backwards to bring them in. I'd rather watch 32 of the best players duking it out for the big prize money than watch the same tournament in the knowledge that they were restricted entry because they were too good.

These special allowances, plane tickets, hotel stays and whatever else are designed to deliver the best possible games for us, the fans.

If you want Korean players to stay in Korea, the Korean scene needs to be able to facilitate the droves of talented and dedicated players. Hurting the Korean scene and forcing the players to go global to make a living is exactly the reason why Koreans have to try and attend every big event. We always talk about how the Korean scene is over-saturated and it's plain to see when it's hemorrhaging talent all over the place - there simply isn't enough prize money to go around in Korea. It's because Blizzard has focused so much attention on babying the foreign scene that we're in this situation to begin with.

I'm all for a stronger Korean scene and more regulation of the teams. It's almost abusive the way some of these superstars have to live. It's disgraceful that they have to leave their home and fill up foreign rosters so that they can eat. Blizzard is beginning to realize this.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 17:55:34
March 25 2013 17:54 GMT
#309
On March 26 2013 02:49 dUTtrOACh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 02:31 Plansix wrote:
On March 26 2013 01:53 Irre wrote:
On March 26 2013 01:37 Plansix wrote:
On March 26 2013 01:22 Drium wrote:
So Blizzard basically just bought the rights to OSL? Or is there some other component to this that I'm missing?

Seems kind of similar to what Riot is doing to league with LCS. Even though it is putting more money in the scene I have to say I prefer having a bunch of tournaments run by 3rd parties and funded by external sponsors to centralized tournaments run by the game company. Although, for the Korean scene, it has never really worked like that so I guess I don't care if it's Blizzard's tournament or Gom/OGN/Kespa's. I guess I just dislike the trend of game companies wanting absolute control over their game and the surrounding community.


I think the Riot system is better, personally. They put rules in place to make sure all events make sense and factor into the larger, world wide system. They have ways for up and comming teams to win big events without having to go against the top players(like all the teams in the LCS cannot compete in MLG, though their B-teams can). They also have rules for trades and other systems in places to make sure everything is as close to fair as possible. And their focus on players being able to rise up through a set system is very encouraging.

I think Blizzard being involved is a good thing for Korea and everyone. Right now there aren't enough reasons for the leagues to work together and fosters a robust scene with all levels of play. That system might emerge without Blizzard, but I am not willing to bet on it with all the different leagues having their own goals.


Honestly do you ever stop going on about giving foreigners free money for not living in Korea and working hard? Ofc you like the Riot System better because its much more about the "white kids", despite even for LoL the Asian scenes are already becoming way better.

I will withhold judgement until announcement. Would be nice to see some cooperation between all the leagues in Korea, but I hope that they don't get rid of any of them. Except maybe OSL because I don't really enjoy the format as much as GSL, but it does have so much history..


Not until MGL and other NA events stop providing special brackets, free plane tickets and hotel stays to Korean teams and players just to assure they attend their events. Or did everyone forget that the most recent MGL system had a specific system to assure that Korean players qualified for the event? Or the MLG vs Proleague Invitational from 2012? which might as well have been called, "Make sure Proleague player do not need to go through the open bracket" event.

Seriously, high level Korean players get enough free passes to NA events, seeds and special rules to assure they will attend. I think it is complete BS that an underdog NA player had to go through the entire open bracket MGL winter 2012, but Kespa players had a special rule made up so they can avoid the open bracket.

The Riot system is better because it lets teams compete on their own space and rise to the top. The top ranked NA team just got shut down by a high level Korean team at a recent event. The NA team said they overthought the match up and their star players got focused won. They also said they are preparing for their next show down with the Korean team at another major event. That is way more exciting than the Korean team being seeded into the top of the NA league to crush the NA top team.


I rather interpret this as a balance whine more than anything.

If Koreans are the best players, then it makes perfect sense that event organizers bend over backwards to bring them in. I'd rather watch 32 of the best players duking it out for the big prize money than watch the same tournament in the knowledge that they were restricted entry because they were too good.

These special allowances, plane tickets, hotel stays and whatever else are designed to deliver the best possible games for us, the fans.

If you want Korean players to stay in Korea, the Korean scene needs to be able to facilitate the droves of talented and dedicated players. Hurting the Korean scene and forcing the players to go global to make a living is exactly the reason why Koreans have to try and attend every big event. We always talk about how the Korean scene is over-saturated and it's plain to see when it's hemorrhaging talent all over the place - there simply isn't enough prize money to go around in Korea. It's because Blizzard has focused so much attention on babying the foreign scene that we're in this situation to begin with.

I'm all for a stronger Korean scene and more regulation of the teams. It's almost abusive the way some of these superstars have to live. It's disgraceful that they have to leave their home and fill up foreign rosters so that they can eat. Blizzard is beginning to realize this.


Well I don't really care about the Kespa teams that are backed by some of the larges companies in Korea. They don't need seeds or their own brackets to qualify for MLG. If they want in, they can do it the same way as every other player in the event. Anything else is just them leveraging their starpower to assure their have an easier time at the event.
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XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
March 25 2013 17:55 GMT
#310
On March 26 2013 02:44 Azarkon wrote:
When people complained about Blizzard not supporting the pro scene in Starcraft, they had the NA/EU scene in mind, but Blizzard, as it turns out, had other plans. I wonder whether Blizzard's new found support of the pro scene was due to Riot. After all, a partnership with OGN, the biggest broadcaster of LoL in Korea, has its benefits in the competition with Riot.

Competing with LoL in Korea would be foolish, I doubt Blizzard can do anything to make SC2 be able to compete with LoL in Korea. The goal should not be the competition, it should be creating a sustainable scene for the partners involved without making a major sacrifice to the existent scenes. The optimal would be a way to make Koreans focus more on the Korean tournaments, instead of going abroad to collect the money (which is rightfully deserved, they are the better players).
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 17:56:43
March 25 2013 17:56 GMT
#311




People know what will happen call it a bad thing. Only Chung is happy.

It's just OSL being canceled indefinitely and GSL being broadcasted on OGN. Maybe that's why people are not happy but only Chung is happy. Maybe that's why everything about GSL Season 2 is announced and going well according to plan and qualifier is open to register today. And the timing of the announcement is just a day before GSL Season 2 open, so...
green2000
Profile Joined October 2009
Peru79 Posts
March 25 2013 17:56 GMT
#312
On March 26 2013 02:34 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 02:21 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
This isn't limited to to the KR scene at all (remember the tweet Sundance made in response to questions about no MLG open bracket~)

I don't like it at all ><

I guess it will help revive the dying foreigner scene but from what it looks like it will hurt the Korean players


oh well now it sounds like it's injecting the WCS idea into major tournaments.

i guess catz will be happy.


Yeaaaah Catz ideas, someone remember this:
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rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 17:59:14
March 25 2013 17:58 GMT
#313
Whatever they do, i hope they dont discontinue the Golden Mouse award, cause one day, once they have invented rejuvenation therapies - i want to be able to win one, and put it on the command bridge of my spaceship.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
March 25 2013 17:59 GMT
#314
On March 26 2013 02:56 green2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 02:34 jalstar wrote:
On March 26 2013 02:21 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
This isn't limited to to the KR scene at all (remember the tweet Sundance made in response to questions about no MLG open bracket~)

I don't like it at all ><

I guess it will help revive the dying foreigner scene but from what it looks like it will hurt the Korean players


oh well now it sounds like it's injecting the WCS idea into major tournaments.

i guess catz will be happy.


Yeaaaah Catz ideas, someone remember this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CAXidm7roE


Well Scarlett was being vague and I guess she has to be, but it sounds like tournaments for each region and/or country are being consolidated somewhat and maybe region locked to an extent. "I guess it will help revive the dying foreigner scene"
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 25 2013 18:04 GMT
#315
On March 26 2013 02:56 larse wrote:
https://twitter.com/Ethan_Ahn/status/316055584027852800

https://twitter.com/EGtrotRC/status/316189617718165504

People know what will happen call it a bad thing. Only Chung is happy.

It's just OSL being canceled indefinitely and GSL being broadcasted on OGN. Maybe that's why people are not happy but only Chung is happy. Maybe that's why everything about GSL Season 2 is announced and going well according to plan and qualifier is open to register today. And the timing of the announcement is just a day before GSL Season 2 open, so...

people who agree with it are probably not leaking information about it since they aren't trying to steal the thunder so saying "[p]eople know what will happen call it a bad thing" is a bit foolish.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 25 2013 18:04 GMT
#316
On March 26 2013 02:59 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 02:56 green2000 wrote:
On March 26 2013 02:34 jalstar wrote:
On March 26 2013 02:21 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
This isn't limited to to the KR scene at all (remember the tweet Sundance made in response to questions about no MLG open bracket~)

I don't like it at all ><

I guess it will help revive the dying foreigner scene but from what it looks like it will hurt the Korean players


oh well now it sounds like it's injecting the WCS idea into major tournaments.

i guess catz will be happy.


Yeaaaah Catz ideas, someone remember this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CAXidm7roE


Well Scarlett was being vague and I guess she has to be, but it sounds like tournaments for each region and/or country are being consolidated somewhat and maybe region locked to an extent. "I guess it will help revive the dying foreigner scene"


It is a good idea and would let each of the scenes develop more naturally. I would rather see NA teams sending their players to Korea to train, come back and kick the crap out of every NA player. Or hire kespa coaches to coach their NA players for other leagues. Rather than export our best players to Korea, I would rather import Korean training to NA, until we can train our own players. Its a long term process, but means a more robust scene in the end.
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
March 25 2013 18:06 GMT
#317
On March 26 2013 03:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 02:56 larse wrote:
https://twitter.com/Ethan_Ahn/status/316055584027852800

https://twitter.com/EGtrotRC/status/316189617718165504

People know what will happen call it a bad thing. Only Chung is happy.

It's just OSL being canceled indefinitely and GSL being broadcasted on OGN. Maybe that's why people are not happy but only Chung is happy. Maybe that's why everything about GSL Season 2 is announced and going well according to plan and qualifier is open to register today. And the timing of the announcement is just a day before GSL Season 2 open, so...

people who agree with it are probably not leaking information about it since they aren't trying to steal the thunder so saying "[p]eople know what will happen call it a bad thing" is a bit foolish.


They may very well say something like "big thing is going to happen"; "expecting something exciting"; "So hyped up" etc. But no, of course, expect Chung
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 18:13:53
March 25 2013 18:11 GMT
#318
On March 26 2013 02:55 Xacez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 02:44 Azarkon wrote:
When people complained about Blizzard not supporting the pro scene in Starcraft, they had the NA/EU scene in mind, but Blizzard, as it turns out, had other plans. I wonder whether Blizzard's new found support of the pro scene was due to Riot. After all, a partnership with OGN, the biggest broadcaster of LoL in Korea, has its benefits in the competition with Riot.

Competing with LoL in Korea would be foolish, I doubt Blizzard can do anything to make SC2 be able to compete with LoL in Korea. The goal should not be the competition, it should be creating a sustainable scene for the partners involved without making a major sacrifice to the existent scenes. The optimal would be a way to make Koreans focus more on the Korean tournaments, instead of going abroad to collect the money (which is rightfully deserved, they are the better players).


I don't think they're trying to take on LoL, but to stem its rapid takeover of the competitive scene through subsidies, partnerships, and team sponsorships. Riot has a very aggressive strategy towards eSports that involves promoting their game as the premier eSports engine and overtaking Blizzard's iron grip on games-for-esports. I see how that threatens Blizzard, who has had the benefit of having their games being the main engine behind eSports in Asia till the coming of Riot.
Michaels
Profile Joined August 2010
419 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 18:14:00
March 25 2013 18:13 GMT
#319
So is this it? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=404781
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 25 2013 18:14 GMT
#320
On March 26 2013 03:11 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 02:55 Xacez wrote:
On March 26 2013 02:44 Azarkon wrote:
When people complained about Blizzard not supporting the pro scene in Starcraft, they had the NA/EU scene in mind, but Blizzard, as it turns out, had other plans. I wonder whether Blizzard's new found support of the pro scene was due to Riot. After all, a partnership with OGN, the biggest broadcaster of LoL in Korea, has its benefits in the competition with Riot.

Competing with LoL in Korea would be foolish, I doubt Blizzard can do anything to make SC2 be able to compete with LoL in Korea. The goal should not be the competition, it should be creating a sustainable scene for the partners involved without making a major sacrifice to the existent scenes. The optimal would be a way to make Koreans focus more on the Korean tournaments, instead of going abroad to collect the money (which is rightfully deserved, they are the better players).


I don't think they're trying to take on LoL, but to stem its rapid takeover of the competitive scene through subsidies, partnerships, and team sponsorships. Riot has a very aggressive strategy towards eSports that involves promoting their game as the premier eSports engine and overtaking Blizzard's iron grip on games-for-esports.

I don't think Riot or Blizzard are trying to "over take" each other. They can both exisit side by side. Both games don't need to air at the same time.
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