I'd been playing unranked 1v1's and the system had been placing me purely against diamond with some master's here and there. Did that have anything to do with it?
Unranked MMR affects Ranked MMR pre-placement?
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Fliparoni
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I'd been playing unranked 1v1's and the system had been placing me purely against diamond with some master's here and there. Did that have anything to do with it? | ||
SoloZergg
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Williammm
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alvadr
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On March 24 2013 09:42 Williammm wrote: I'm pretty sure they have separate MMR's. I was ranked diamond borderline masters level mmr, but when I played unranked as it came out I was playing against bronze and silvers. They've said the share the same players, so I would assume it would be the same MMR | ||
Non0
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Trfel
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Edit: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400828 | ||
GTPGlitch
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monkh
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Barbiero
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Initially, you have no MMR for both ranked and unranked brackets. When you played a lot of unranked, the system would create a hidden MMR to place you against equally-skilled opponents. Now you have X MMR for unranked, and ranked bracket does not have a MMR. When you play your placement matches on ranked bracket, the system will search for an equally skilled opponent - based on the only information they have of you, your unranked MMR - and then deviate from that. Now you have two separate MMRs for ranked and unranked. In other words, the same way the system will place you vs similar skilled players when you first play unranked after many ranked matches, the same applies when you play several unranked and play ranked matches for the first time. | ||
Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On March 24 2013 09:54 Zephirdd wrote: this is how it should work: Initially, you have no MMR for both ranked and unranked brackets. When you played a lot of unranked, the system would create a hidden MMR to place you against equally-skilled opponents. Now you have X MMR for unranked, and ranked bracket does not have a MMR. When you play your placement matches on ranked bracket, the system will search for an equally skilled opponent - based on the only information they have of you, your unranked MMR - and then deviate from that. Now you have two separate MMRs for ranked and unranked. In other words, the same way the system will place you vs similar skilled players when you first play unranked after many ranked matches, the same applies when you play several unranked and play ranked matches for the first time. This makes sense. Also, the other day I was playing ranked(I'm in Bronze FYI) and was placed against someone in Master League. He told me he was playing unranked and had a much lower MMR in unranked play. | ||
Incanus
Canada695 Posts
On March 24 2013 09:57 Turgid wrote: This makes sense. Also, the other day I was playing ranked(I'm in Bronze FYI) and was placed against someone in Master League. He told me he was playing unranked and had a much lower MMR in unranked play. What a crazy scenario... So this basically shows that you have no way of knowing how highly ranked your opponent is, since they could be playing unranked. Unfortunate, since it helps put things into perspective when you know the ranking of your opponent. Not everyone is a GM player who can accurately analyse and judge their opponents play. | ||
Indolent
Poland137 Posts
I know this doesn't make sense, but that's what I'm experiencing. | ||
HarbingerOfDoom
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igay
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Steelo_Rivers
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Kernkraft
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Fliparoni
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On March 24 2013 10:19 igay wrote: I played about 70 unranked games with a diamond MMR and did my placement won them all and got placed in gold. All the players I went against while doing my placement were gold, silver or bronze The one difference between mine and your scenario is that of the 3 wins I got, 1 of them was in diamond and the other 2 were in platinum. Maybe my unranked Diamond MMR plus the MMR's of the people that I beat in the placement matches was what got me placed directly into diamond. | ||
Comogury
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Disastorm
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