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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
 Maybe this is also an approach for the virtual jersey initiative from TotalBiscuit? http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=368588 And maybe talking to Blizzard could help deeper integration into the client as well. I'm sure they saw it. | ||
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SigmaFiE
United States333 Posts
Poll: Should GameHeart be normal inclusion for all melee maps? Yes (48) No (4) 52 total votes Your vote: Should GameHeart be normal inclusion for all melee maps? | ||
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GameHeart
286 Posts
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Nerski
United States1095 Posts
On April 06 2013 01:14 GameHeart wrote: @Proseat - Currently I am against adding actual sponsor logos to the overlay. I don't want the logos to get out of hand many people already think they are). We need to get these maps plastered with logos like were in nascar! | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 06 2013 01:14 GameHeart wrote: @Proseat - Currently I am against adding actual sponsor logos to the overlay. I don't want the logos to get out of hand many people already think they are). There just needs to be better places to put them. On the UI is not great. But on a flag in the best(like Dota2) is more acceptable. People wouldn't mind a logo if it looks organic on the map. An MLG logo in the center of the map that is created with terrain details. People wouldn't mind a logo if it was on a bill board on the map or a flag. Not all of that can be done with custom maps, but finding places to put them is going to be a key part of getting teams and sponsors in the game itself. Finally, people may freak out about logos and sponsors, but don't let that stop you from putting them there. People freak out about a lot of stuff, like numbers over the nexus and the decals that Blizzard put it. They get over it quickly. | ||
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bsdaemon
618 Posts
On April 04 2013 23:44 GameHeart wrote:It is also my goal that the next major version of the overlay will work in conjunction with the new Blizzard UI tool rather than as an alternative so organizations are not forced to choose between them. At that time I will hopefully be able to offer replay casting support as well. This would be awesome since it will help push more users to use your UI. Also, congrats for the GSTL and you are getting a lot of positive feedback  | ||
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archonOOid
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GameHeart
286 Posts
Whoever takes on that task would have to design a different way of displaying logos for ever map. I am not getting paid for this, it's already a ridiculously time consuming endeavor. Yes, the logos look better and more integrated in DotA 2. There is no question about that. But there is only one map in DotA and it isn't hard to make something perfect when it doesn't require even a minimal amount of versatility. When you need to design something that works with maps and layouts that people haven't even imagined yet, it's not as simple. That said logos are going to be looked at no doubt. It's kind of a complicated issue because the general consensus in the foreigner community seems to be that the logos in the mineral lines look bad and the big transparent logos in the natural look good. But in the Korean community it's the exact opposite (at least as I have been told). I have not had a full report from Gom yet on what they liked and did not like. I noticed a couple of bugs during the broadcast as well, that will need to be fixed. Right now the priority in my mind is: Fixing the victory screen to be more appealing. Finding a way to do logos that everyone (okay most people) likes. Improving the visuals on the workers killed etc charts. There are a lot more things I want to tackle, and I am sure Gom will have some serious concerns they will want to discuss but right now those are the things that are most on my mind. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 06 2013 01:29 GameHeart wrote: @Plansix - I think all of that can only be done with custom maps actually. The problem is that using billboards is great in say, Metropolis or maybe Daybreak...but it doesn't work very well in Whirlwind. Whoever takes on that task would have to design a different way of displaying logos for ever map. I am not getting paid for this, it's already a ridiculously time consuming endeavor. Yes, the logos look better and more integrated in DotA 2. There is no question about that. But there is only one map in DotA and it isn't hard to make something perfect when it doesn't require even a minimal amount of versatility. When you need to design something that works with maps and layouts that people haven't even imagined yet, it's not as simple. That said logos are going to be looked at no doubt. It's kind of a complicated issue because the general consensus in the foreigner community seems to be that the logos in the mineral lines look bad and the big transparent logos in the natural look good. But in the Korean community it's the exact opposite (at least as I have been told). I have not had a full report from Gom yet on what they liked and did not like. I noticed a couple of bugs during the broadcast as well, that will need to be fixed. Right now the priority in my mind is: Fixing the victory screen to be more appealing. Finding a way to do logos that everyone (okay most people) likes. Improving the visuals on the workers killed etc charts. There are a lot more things I want to tackle, and I am sure Gom will have some serious concerns they will want to discuss but right now those are the things that are most on my mind. You should be getting paid for this, but I respect the effort you are putting in for the community and hopefully someone decides you should be working on this for them. I am pretty aware of the amount of effort you are putting in and I am not one of these people who thinks stuff can just "be changed" without significant effort. I know the logos on flags and billboards isn't something you can do. That has to be up to the map makers to have places for the logos to go and that is beyond your control. I was just putting thoughts out there of better ways to do it, since there appears to be a lot of buzz around your UI. Seriously though, take all complaints with a grain of salt. You are doing great work and everyone loves it. But there are going to be people who complaint about tiny things that many not matter, but are doing so because they know you are reading. | ||
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NeWeNiyaLord
Norway2474 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
As others have mentioned, and gameheart has already said he's working on, the victory screen and worker lost screens, etc look bad and MSpaintish. I really love the new blizzard victory screen, so if you could make it work with that it would be better. Really a combination of the two would be best because the blizzard info charts are just prettier to look at. | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
In Dota there are logo's everywhere but I never really notice them. Here they are really standing out as an ugly feature. Just a simple flag on top of the nexus/hatch/cc with the logo on it would be better. | ||
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
On April 06 2013 06:35 Fencar wrote: Can I use Stronger Team Colors on ladder? STC was originally meant to be used for ladder and people with bad sight. However, blizzard removed the ability to edit the way units actually appear, while this is a feature the map creates within GameHeart. As far as I know Blizzard said they were looking into a way to integrate STC on their own, however have not done any updates on it since removing the ability to use the mod. I still am incredibly angry with Blizzard over this because it used to look so good, helped people with vision problems, and was something almost every viewer I ever had back in the day liked. tl;dr: no, but blizzard said they wanted to.. just have not done it yet... | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
On April 06 2013 06:47 -Kyo- wrote: STC was originally meant to be used for ladder and people with bad sight. However, blizzard removed the ability to edit the way units actually appear, while this is a feature the map creates within GameHeart. As far as I know Blizzard said they were looking into a way to integrate STC on their own, however have not done any updates on it since removing the ability to use the mod. I still am incredibly angry with Blizzard over this because it used to look so good, helped people with vision problems, and was something almost every viewer I ever had back in the day liked. tl;dr: no, but blizzard said they wanted to.. just have not done it yet... http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/19sg1x/we_are_dustin_browder_alan_dabiri_and_david_kim/c8qw1rp Q: What happened to the possibility of a Blizz version of Stronger Team Colours? A: This didn't end up happening. My understanding is that we had some technical challenges that would have hurt lower end systems to have two types of colors in the game. | ||
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
On April 06 2013 06:57 juicyjames wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/19sg1x/we_are_dustin_browder_alan_dabiri_and_david_kim/c8qw1rp Ah I never read that AmA. Well there is the answer, though I really don't believe it at all! Thanks for clarifying. | ||
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rename
Estonia329 Posts
On April 06 2013 00:38 SigmaFiE wrote: Everyone so far seems to be enjoying this. If this were included as a normal part of the map making process at any level of melee map-- would you the community like to see it implemented? I would have to go with no, unless its proven that all the extra features dont affect FPS more than few percent. | ||
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GameHeart
286 Posts
I am not sure if they are going to use it again tonight for GSTL, I haven't heard from Gom at all since last nights broadcast. Not sure if that is a good sign or a bad sign. | ||
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Nuxar
Canada212 Posts
Again, absurdly amazing job on this! Hope to see more work soon! | ||
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