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Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
January 31 2013 23:44 GMT
#341
I think Invite only makes a lot of sense for the first month of HotS tournaments since the switch from WoL -> HotS punishes pros who have been focusing on WoL. Many pros have SC2 as their source of income, so think of it as protecting them during an awkward transition phrase. If legitimately good players who haven't broken into the scene yet are playing HotS exclusively, they'll do fine during later open brackets.
In Somnis Veritas
ImAbstracT
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
519 Posts
January 31 2013 23:44 GMT
#342
An open bracket in this tournament would be a cluster. HoTS will virtually be a hard reset of the game. Unknown players could take out veteran pro's just because of the huge meta change. I think this tournament will be one of the best MLG's to date. It will be exciting to see new strategies and crazy situations like we did around the beginning of WoL. Remember that horrid Slayers hellion marine drop while gave every zerg nightmares?
"I want you to take a moment, and reflect, on how much of a failure you are" - IdrA
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 23:53:56
January 31 2013 23:49 GMT
#343
On February 01 2013 02:33 MLG_Adam wrote:
Again. We want aspiration, we want open qualification, we want success stories, how can you say anything different based on our track record?

This event is 3 days after a major content release. Qualification is taking place on BETA servers. We wanted to have open online qualification for this event but it was not a logistical reality.

We are not done announcing 2013 plans. Have faith.


I have to agree.

Also, speaking of online qualification, I'm curious that no one has talked about Blizzard adding something to make it easier for tournament organizers.

It'd be neat if you could (on battle.net) create a tournament (like creating groups and clans), invite people, set up brackets (set up whether single elimination, double, etc), set time limit and date for when the players should play (or make it so the players can play anytime within a certain deadline), etc, make it fully customizable.

Then, the players just play each other (making sure to use the tournament system to play the games rather than using the default custom games), then wins and loses will be recorded automatically and easily, with no need for a referee or observer (or sending replays for someone to look over).

Of course the only potential problem is things like disconnects and stuff but they could solve that by adding some reconnect feature or a have a "call referee button" (which would require said referee to be on battle.net during the tournament of course) that calls someone who's listed as a referee (by the tournament system in battle.net).

Sounds complicated, and hard to do but it'd be definitely worth it if Blizzard adds something like this to battle.net (maybe in LotV).

I guess the closest thing like it in a game (that I know of) is maybe Super Smash Bros Brawl (though no one used it mainly because it wasn't that customizable and in actual tournaments, you'll be hoping from console to console often instead of using the same one). I'm sure other games have something similar to this too (that is, customizable tournaments that you could use to set up qualifiers or maybe the actual main tournament itself).
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number01
Profile Joined December 2012
203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 00:18:01
February 01 2013 00:17 GMT
#344
not be watching it if there are no open brackets.
Idra is the reason I play SC
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 01 2013 00:27 GMT
#345
On February 01 2013 09:17 number01 wrote:
not be watching it if there are no open brackets.


You'll be watching.
Terran & Potato Salad.
number01
Profile Joined December 2012
203 Posts
February 01 2013 00:30 GMT
#346
On February 01 2013 09:27 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:17 number01 wrote:
not be watching it if there are no open brackets.


You'll be watching.


nope
Idra is the reason I play SC
AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 00:34:46
February 01 2013 00:30 GMT
#347
Definitely disappointing without open brackets.

Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS where the chances of this happening are greater than ever.

On February 01 2013 09:27 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:17 number01 wrote:
not be watching it if there are no open brackets.


You'll be watching.



Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here?

"...I want more people to be in that state more often, to see things not through the limited and rigid mind or the fearful ego, but through a heart that loves to express and create" - Xiaonan "Glider" Sun
number01
Profile Joined December 2012
203 Posts
February 01 2013 00:32 GMT
#348
On February 01 2013 09:30 AzurewinD wrote:
Definitely disappointing without open brackets.

Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS.

Show nested quote +
You'll be watching.


Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here?



completely agree.

Give an unknown a fair chance to win the competition as well in the early stages of the game where everyone has the similar mechanics.
Idra is the reason I play SC
Happygreek
Profile Joined April 2012
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 00:37:15
February 01 2013 00:36 GMT
#349
On February 01 2013 09:27 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:17 number01 wrote:
not be watching it if there are no open brackets.


You'll be watching.


Actually I rather think everybody's gonna be watching. Those showdowns are going to be a full month of entertainment, and there's gonna be some epic matches before the MLG even begins. Best of 5's should be much more fun than the early round best of 3's and it's nice to be able to see them all, rather than only having a few streams while everyone plays.

I think it's a pretty good format, honestly. Add in a open bracket (which will likely come in later events when they have a stable server) and let the losers of the showdowns enter it with everybody else, and it's basically everything I want in an MLG from a entertainment standpoint.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 01 2013 00:37 GMT
#350
On February 01 2013 09:32 number01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:30 AzurewinD wrote:
Definitely disappointing without open brackets.

Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS.

You'll be watching.


Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here?



completely agree.

Give an unknown a fair chance to win the competition as well in the early stages of the game where everyone has the similar mechanics.

not their problem. their tournament, their rules.
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
February 01 2013 00:37 GMT
#351
Love the people saying they won't watch because of no open bracket which is usually predictable with tons if bad games. Then you aren't an SC2 fan.

Let me get this straight, 32 of the most known players from all regions of the world competing 2 weeks after a major Blizzard expansion for 75k, trying to navigate all the new units and meta which will be developing essentially on the fly during the weekend? Yeah let me get right to complaining!


number01
Profile Joined December 2012
203 Posts
February 01 2013 00:38 GMT
#352
On February 01 2013 09:37 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:32 number01 wrote:
On February 01 2013 09:30 AzurewinD wrote:
Definitely disappointing without open brackets.

Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS.

You'll be watching.


Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here?



completely agree.

Give an unknown a fair chance to win the competition as well in the early stages of the game where everyone has the similar mechanics.

not their problem. their tournament, their rules.



true but we are the viewers
Idra is the reason I play SC
number01
Profile Joined December 2012
203 Posts
February 01 2013 00:39 GMT
#353
On February 01 2013 09:37 FLuE wrote:
Love the people saying they won't watch because of no open bracket which is usually predictable with tons if bad games. Then you aren't an SC2 fan.

Let me get this straight, 32 of the most known players from all regions of the world competing 2 weeks after a major Blizzard expansion for 75k, trying to navigate all the new units and meta which will be developing essentially on the fly during the weekend? Yeah let me get right to complaining!




this dude not the smartest tool in the shed right? smh
Idra is the reason I play SC
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
February 01 2013 00:40 GMT
#354
On February 01 2013 09:32 number01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:30 AzurewinD wrote:
Definitely disappointing without open brackets.

Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS.

You'll be watching.


Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here?



completely agree.

Give an unknown a fair chance to win the competition as well in the early stages of the game where everyone has the similar mechanics.


You're not going to be watching the first premier HotS tournament in history because there is no open bracket for NA masters players to try and cheese pro's only to fail? You don't want to see top players like Parting, Flash, Taeja, Hero, Life play their first ever HotS tournament??? I find that hard to believe.
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
number01
Profile Joined December 2012
203 Posts
February 01 2013 00:44 GMT
#355
On February 01 2013 09:40 HotGlueGun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:32 number01 wrote:
On February 01 2013 09:30 AzurewinD wrote:
Definitely disappointing without open brackets.

Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS.

You'll be watching.


Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here?



completely agree.

Give an unknown a fair chance to win the competition as well in the early stages of the game where everyone has the similar mechanics.


You're not going to be watching the first premier HotS tournament in history because there is no open bracket for NA masters players to try and cheese pro's only to fail? You don't want to see top players like Parting, Flash, Taeja, Hero, Life play their first ever HotS tournament??? I find that hard to believe.


You can believe anything that you want, especially create your own reality when i did not say anything that you posted above.


I wont be watching because there is really no incentive to watch it. I can see these pro players play anytime in future tournaments. Especially once HOTS gets more stable. The opportunity to see a bunch of unknowns take and beat professional players in the early stages is something that you wont get to see again. Especially once the pro players mechanics reach their best level.
Idra is the reason I play SC
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 01 2013 00:44 GMT
#356
On February 01 2013 09:38 number01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:37 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 01 2013 09:32 number01 wrote:
On February 01 2013 09:30 AzurewinD wrote:
Definitely disappointing without open brackets.

Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS.

You'll be watching.


Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here?



completely agree.

Give an unknown a fair chance to win the competition as well in the early stages of the game where everyone has the similar mechanics.

not their problem. their tournament, their rules.



true but we are the viewers

you are _a_ viewer. their obligation is to get as many viewers as possible. i imagine their current system will maximize viewers much more than having an open bracket the day of the final tournament. indeed, i think spreading it out is going to considerably increase their numbers. so, smart by them.
uberism
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada271 Posts
February 01 2013 00:46 GMT
#357
We are just voicing our opinions, if we didn't. MLG might think its cool to never hold another tourney with an open bracket.
I for one will be watching less because I like to cheer on the underdog. Not some no name masters player, but a high GM NA player.
number01
Profile Joined December 2012
203 Posts
February 01 2013 00:46 GMT
#358
On February 01 2013 09:44 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:38 number01 wrote:
On February 01 2013 09:37 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 01 2013 09:32 number01 wrote:
On February 01 2013 09:30 AzurewinD wrote:
Definitely disappointing without open brackets.

Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS.

You'll be watching.


Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here?



completely agree.

Give an unknown a fair chance to win the competition as well in the early stages of the game where everyone has the similar mechanics.

not their problem. their tournament, their rules.



true but we are the viewers

you are _a_ viewer. their obligation is to get as many viewers as possible. i imagine their current system will maximize viewers much more than having an open bracket the day of the final tournament. indeed, i think spreading it out is going to considerably increase their numbers. so, smart by them.



it better.
Idra is the reason I play SC
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 00:49:54
February 01 2013 00:48 GMT
#359
Not with attending the championship - you 'might' get to meet some pro gamers. Maybe. But not like when there is a 100 player open bracket. Then there is a good reason to go, because it is very likely you meet and greet pro gamers.

MLG Fail in my opinion.

Open brackets bring in new talent, and let gamers shine, upsets happen and great games occur.

If it is invite only, might as well as change the name to MLV - Major league viewing - because not much gaming will happen.

Also, no open bracket means LOTS and LOTS of time in between game for those AWESOME and epic commercials I really do love to watch, sometimes 10 times in a row. I really love it towards the finals when they are on repeat.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 01 2013 01:00 GMT
#360
On February 01 2013 09:30 AzurewinD wrote:
Definitely disappointing without open brackets.

Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS where the chances of this happening are greater than ever.

Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:27 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On February 01 2013 09:17 number01 wrote:
not be watching it if there are no open brackets.


You'll be watching.



Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here?



Same goes for you, you'll also watch the very first HotS tournament. OB provides a lot of BYE's, uninteresting and one-sided games and the vast majority of them aren't even streamed anyway. Half of the players are white dudes, if anything this ONE-TIME format is a better opportunity (charity?) for semi-pros than the usual OB.
Terran & Potato Salad.
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