|
On February 01 2013 09:46 number01 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 09:44 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 01 2013 09:38 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:37 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 01 2013 09:32 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:30 AzurewinD wrote:Definitely disappointing without open brackets. Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS. You'll be watching. Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here? completely agree. Give an unknown a fair chance to win the competition as well in the early stages of the game where everyone has the similar mechanics. not their problem. their tournament, their rules. true but we are the viewers you are _a_ viewer. their obligation is to get as many viewers as possible. i imagine their current system will maximize viewers much more than having an open bracket the day of the final tournament. indeed, i think spreading it out is going to considerably increase their numbers. so, smart by them. it better.
It will, even without you(which I find doubtful you won't watch). If MLG said they were having an open bracket, but doing away with booths on the main stage, the same number of people would complain(or more, who knows). There is a fix number of people in the community that bitch about everything and they will always be upset about some Esports injustice.
|
On February 01 2013 10:01 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 09:46 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:44 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 01 2013 09:38 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:37 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 01 2013 09:32 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:30 AzurewinD wrote:Definitely disappointing without open brackets. Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS. You'll be watching. Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here? completely agree. Give an unknown a fair chance to win the competition as well in the early stages of the game where everyone has the similar mechanics. not their problem. their tournament, their rules. true but we are the viewers you are _a_ viewer. their obligation is to get as many viewers as possible. i imagine their current system will maximize viewers much more than having an open bracket the day of the final tournament. indeed, i think spreading it out is going to considerably increase their numbers. so, smart by them. it better. It will, even without you(which I find doubtful you won't watch). If MLG said they were having an open bracket, but doing away with booths on the main stage, the same number of people would complain(or more, who knows). There is a fix number of people in the community that bitch about everything and they will always be upset about some Esports injustice.
i dont think you even read any of my posts or other people's posts. If there was some way to block people like you i would do it.
|
here's hoping to a strat like 5 rax reaper winning the tournament ez pz! lol jk
|
So MLG abandons open bracket for this? Not worth attending anymore and I will be cancelling my gold membership/boycotting MLG.
|
This is fucking disgusting. No point in amateurs coming up now with open brackets being demolished and minor tournaments nearly completely disappearing. Is this really the turn you guys want to take? I'm so disappointed in this community right now, even the online qualifiers are fucking invite only. Woooow.
|
I'm actually looking forward to these Showmatches. Seems like it would benefit teams a bit not having to send out players to the open bracket due to it being online.
Although it doesn't really give the chance for Up and comers, It has way to many big names to even complain. I'd prefer to watch 2 Great players than Stephano vs an Up & Comer ( Basically I mean potential one sided games. ).
I Watch MLG for the very highest level of gameplay and I'm glad this is the route they take.
|
Guys chill out, only the first HotS tournament is putting aside the open bracket. Just because the game is new. A lot of people won't like that, but it's just 1 season.
|
On February 01 2013 10:20 Maesy wrote:
This is fucking disgusting. No point in amateurs coming up now with open brackets being demolished and minor tournaments nearly completely disappearing. Is this really the turn you guys want to take? I'm so disappointed in this community right now, even the online qualifiers are fucking invite only. Woooow.
its one tournament....
|
On February 01 2013 10:07 number01 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 10:01 Plansix wrote:On February 01 2013 09:46 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:44 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 01 2013 09:38 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:37 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 01 2013 09:32 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:30 AzurewinD wrote:Definitely disappointing without open brackets. Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS. You'll be watching. Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here? completely agree. Give an unknown a fair chance to win the competition as well in the early stages of the game where everyone has the similar mechanics. not their problem. their tournament, their rules. true but we are the viewers you are _a_ viewer. their obligation is to get as many viewers as possible. i imagine their current system will maximize viewers much more than having an open bracket the day of the final tournament. indeed, i think spreading it out is going to considerably increase their numbers. so, smart by them. it better. It will, even without you(which I find doubtful you won't watch). If MLG said they were having an open bracket, but doing away with booths on the main stage, the same number of people would complain(or more, who knows). There is a fix number of people in the community that bitch about everything and they will always be upset about some Esports injustice. i dont think you even read any of my posts or other people's posts. If there was some way to block people like you i would do it.
I read them and I think many of the points are either dumb or not very well thought out. I also know that the people freaking out about the open bracket are not nearly as important as they think they are.
|
On February 01 2013 10:24 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 10:20 Maesy wrote:
This is fucking disgusting. No point in amateurs coming up now with open brackets being demolished and minor tournaments nearly completely disappearing. Is this really the turn you guys want to take? I'm so disappointed in this community right now, even the online qualifiers are fucking invite only. Woooow. its one tournament....
You didn't read my post. Great job.
|
On February 01 2013 10:25 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 10:07 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 10:01 Plansix wrote:On February 01 2013 09:46 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:44 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 01 2013 09:38 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:37 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 01 2013 09:32 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:30 AzurewinD wrote:Definitely disappointing without open brackets. Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS. You'll be watching. Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here? completely agree. Give an unknown a fair chance to win the competition as well in the early stages of the game where everyone has the similar mechanics. not their problem. their tournament, their rules. true but we are the viewers you are _a_ viewer. their obligation is to get as many viewers as possible. i imagine their current system will maximize viewers much more than having an open bracket the day of the final tournament. indeed, i think spreading it out is going to considerably increase their numbers. so, smart by them. it better. It will, even without you(which I find doubtful you won't watch). If MLG said they were having an open bracket, but doing away with booths on the main stage, the same number of people would complain(or more, who knows). There is a fix number of people in the community that bitch about everything and they will always be upset about some Esports injustice. i dont think you even read any of my posts or other people's posts. If there was some way to block people like you i would do it. I read them and I think many of the points are either dumb or not very well thought out. I also know that the people freaking out about the open bracket are not nearly as important as they think they are.
again there is no way to block people?
|
On February 01 2013 10:24 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 10:20 Maesy wrote:
This is fucking disgusting. No point in amateurs coming up now with open brackets being demolished and minor tournaments nearly completely disappearing. Is this really the turn you guys want to take? I'm so disappointed in this community right now, even the online qualifiers are fucking invite only. Woooow. its one tournament....
jmbthirteen, come on, he is clearly a troll. He opened his comment with "This is fucking disgusting." He might as well post "I am a troll" in a french accent(Im not sure how you note a french accent on forums, but you get the idea). There is no reaching him, he doesn't care and only wants to jump on the hate wagon.
|
On February 01 2013 10:25 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 10:24 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 01 2013 10:20 Maesy wrote:
This is fucking disgusting. No point in amateurs coming up now with open brackets being demolished and minor tournaments nearly completely disappearing. Is this really the turn you guys want to take? I'm so disappointed in this community right now, even the online qualifiers are fucking invite only. Woooow. its one tournament.... You didn't read my post. Great job.
more like you didn't read MLG Adam's posts. Their other tournaments will be open. So throwing a temper tantrum about an invite only tournament 3 days after the release of HotS is stupid.
|
On February 01 2013 10:25 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 10:24 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 01 2013 10:20 Maesy wrote:
This is fucking disgusting. No point in amateurs coming up now with open brackets being demolished and minor tournaments nearly completely disappearing. Is this really the turn you guys want to take? I'm so disappointed in this community right now, even the online qualifiers are fucking invite only. Woooow. its one tournament.... You didn't read my post. Great job.
There are still lots of tournaments with open brackets. There is one being casted right now http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_6/Amateur_Regional
Dreamhack and IEM events have always had open brackets too, and they can barely get enough people to fill them out http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VII_-_Katowice/Open_Bracket
Just wait a little bit for those tourney's or the next MLG.
|
On February 01 2013 10:27 number01 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 10:25 Plansix wrote:On February 01 2013 10:07 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 10:01 Plansix wrote:On February 01 2013 09:46 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:44 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 01 2013 09:38 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:37 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 01 2013 09:32 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:30 AzurewinD wrote:
Definitely disappointing without open brackets.
Looks like I won't be watching either. Not really interested in a competition where new blood isn't given a fair chance to rise to the top, especially with the brand new metagame of HOTS.
[quote]
Really? This is all you have to add? How childish can you be here?
completely agree. Give an unknown a fair chance to win the competition as well in the early stages of the game where everyone has the similar mechanics. not their problem. their tournament, their rules. true but we are the viewers you are _a_ viewer. their obligation is to get as many viewers as possible. i imagine their current system will maximize viewers much more than having an open bracket the day of the final tournament. indeed, i think spreading it out is going to considerably increase their numbers. so, smart by them. it better. It will, even without you(which I find doubtful you won't watch). If MLG said they were having an open bracket, but doing away with booths on the main stage, the same number of people would complain(or more, who knows). There is a fix number of people in the community that bitch about everything and they will always be upset about some Esports injustice. i dont think you even read any of my posts or other people's posts. If there was some way to block people like you i would do it. I read them and I think many of the points are either dumb or not very well thought out. I also know that the people freaking out about the open bracket are not nearly as important as they think they are. again there is no way to block people?
Sadly, no. You are forced to realize interact with people who don't agree with you. I am sure you will be able to get through it.
|
So if Moonglade wants to attend MLG he has to play and beat Sen in a bo5? That's the only qualification? How is that an even remotely fair qualification system? If a player wants to get his brand/team/sponsors exposure by attending an event, he has one player picked by MLG that he has to beat in a bo5. There is no full qualification system against different opponents. It's just a random bo5 against a random difficulty opponent determined by MLG (which they openly manipulate to encourage different region attendance).
If MLG didn't have to reinforce their history of showing how out of touch they are with the competitive scene this wouldn't be so bad. No invite for Sting (a recent championship winner) but an invite for Hawk (retired?).
I was waiting with bated breath for the event details. I didn't care about the open bracket. I was optimistic, hoping for some league format or complex ongoing event, and I get this... An MLG-manipulated invite-only 128 man single elimination bracket with zero seeding. What? How is this not worse than anything we've had before?
I am typically a really big MLG supporter but I can't help but feel disappointed. I'll still watch it, I'll still love it, but i'll be disappointed. I certainly wouldn't pay for it. Maybe i'm in the minority but apparently they missed the mark for my demographic.
|
On February 01 2013 10:30 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 10:27 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 10:25 Plansix wrote:On February 01 2013 10:07 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 10:01 Plansix wrote:On February 01 2013 09:46 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:44 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 01 2013 09:38 number01 wrote:On February 01 2013 09:37 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 01 2013 09:32 number01 wrote:
[quote]
completely agree.
Give an unknown a fair chance to win the competition as well in the early stages of the game where everyone has the similar mechanics.
not their problem. their tournament, their rules. true but we are the viewers you are _a_ viewer. their obligation is to get as many viewers as possible. i imagine their current system will maximize viewers much more than having an open bracket the day of the final tournament. indeed, i think spreading it out is going to considerably increase their numbers. so, smart by them. it better. It will, even without you(which I find doubtful you won't watch). If MLG said they were having an open bracket, but doing away with booths on the main stage, the same number of people would complain(or more, who knows). There is a fix number of people in the community that bitch about everything and they will always be upset about some Esports injustice. i dont think you even read any of my posts or other people's posts. If there was some way to block people like you i would do it. I read them and I think many of the points are either dumb or not very well thought out. I also know that the people freaking out about the open bracket are not nearly as important as they think they are. again there is no way to block people? Sadly, no. You are forced to realize interact with people who don't agree with you. I am sure you will be able to get through it.
The fact that you dont understand is that your comments do not refute any of my statements. All you are saying is people will always complain.
|
the qualification matches are probably gonna be pretty funny to watch lol, most of these guys have played like a few hours of HotS
|
On February 01 2013 10:30 HotGlueGun wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 10:25 Maesy wrote:On February 01 2013 10:24 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 01 2013 10:20 Maesy wrote:
This is fucking disgusting. No point in amateurs coming up now with open brackets being demolished and minor tournaments nearly completely disappearing. Is this really the turn you guys want to take? I'm so disappointed in this community right now, even the online qualifiers are fucking invite only. Woooow. its one tournament.... You didn't read my post. Great job. There are still lots of tournaments with open brackets. There is one being casted right now http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_6/Amateur_RegionalDreamhack and IEM events have always had open brackets too, and they can barely get enough people to fill them out http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VII_-_Katowice/Open_BracketJust wait a little bit for those tourney's or the next MLG.
IGN qualifier brackets were full of people from Code A/Code S and flying overseas to participate in an open bracket doesn't really work. MLG is the only one close to home and I've been there live on several occasions. Of course I'm going to be upset.
I can't stand people who instantly think I'm trolling because I have an opinion that happens to be aggressive.
Some people are playing HotS and only HotS because they want to try to make a break-in statement when the game drops. Whether or not it's realistic, there's a much better chance of that happening then beating a well established WoL player that has been with the game since it's release.
|
On February 01 2013 10:36 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 10:30 HotGlueGun wrote:On February 01 2013 10:25 Maesy wrote:On February 01 2013 10:24 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 01 2013 10:20 Maesy wrote:
This is fucking disgusting. No point in amateurs coming up now with open brackets being demolished and minor tournaments nearly completely disappearing. Is this really the turn you guys want to take? I'm so disappointed in this community right now, even the online qualifiers are fucking invite only. Woooow. its one tournament.... You didn't read my post. Great job. There are still lots of tournaments with open brackets. There is one being casted right now http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_6/Amateur_RegionalDreamhack and IEM events have always had open brackets too, and they can barely get enough people to fill them out http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VII_-_Katowice/Open_BracketJust wait a little bit for those tourney's or the next MLG. IGN qualifier brackets were full of people from Code A/Code S and flying overseas to participate in an open bracket doesn't really work. MLG is the only one close to home and I've been there live on several occasions. Of course I'm going to be upset. I can't stand people who instantly think I'm trolling because I have an opinion that happens to be aggressive. Some people are playing HotS and only HotS because they want to try to make a break-in statement when the game drops. Whether or not it's realistic, there's a much better chance of that happening then beating a well established WoL player that has been with the game since it's release.
your stance isn't aggressive, its over the top. You are saying because MLG Dallas is invite only there is no point for amateurs to even play any more. And thats just false. There will still be plenty of chances for up and coming players to break out, even in future MLGs. And if the only way you are going to "break out" is by your leg up in HotS, its not a true break out. You won't stay at the top very long. The best players in WoL will be the best players in HotS.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
