EPTWings of Liberty: Situation Report 1/11/13 - Page 9
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evanthebouncy!
United States12816 Posts
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brieN
United States158 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
Imo fungal should be nerfed instead. And something I really wish they'd change would be Broodlord damage (not broodlings). Broodlings are what make the Broodlord so fucking strong, there's no reason their initial shot should deal 40 damage on top of that with each subsequent attack dealing 20 :S. Make the attack itself just do 10 dmg, they'd still be used and they'd still be strong. | ||
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
 Now, while we are talking maps, how about those neutral depots? | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:44 jakethesnake wrote: Seems like Blizzard is doing a lot of responding to problems to try and show that they are listening to fans - map fixes/cross spawns, name change... And right before the release of HOTS, what a coincidence Now, while we are talking maps, how about those neutral depots? They've added unbuildable locations in HOTS at the very least. | ||
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Henk
Netherlands578 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:16 brieN wrote: i like the part where they said they made hidden spawn locations on purpose to make lower level players confused, and they wonder why they scare off new people :/ That's exactly what they did not say. | ||
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
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Demurity
United States424 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12058 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:27 FabledIntegral wrote: *sigh* wish they weren't changing IT but fungal instead. IT actually adds a lot to the game relative to fungal, in terms of harassment options, ability to draw initial fire, ability to use them as walls, promoting detection vs Zerg, and the decision making required to engage or let the timer draw out. Imo fungal should be nerfed instead. And something I really wish they'd change would be Broodlord damage (not broodlings). Broodlings are what make the Broodlord so fucking strong, there's no reason their initial shot should deal 40 damage on top of that with each subsequent attack dealing 20 :S. Make the attack itself just do 10 dmg, they'd still be used and they'd still be strong. The trouble is (and nobody should be able to deny this), they're too good currently. What's the point in having attacking units if you have a free army which matches most armies head to head? | ||
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Snijjer
United States989 Posts
Locked positions confusing noobies is just dumb. If they're so noob it hardly matters. | ||
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KlinKz
Canada149 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:56 Qikz wrote: The trouble is (and nobody should be able to deny this), they're too good currently. What's the point in having attacking units if you have a free army which matches most armies head to head? Because you can have units that are "too good" in a sense. It'd just be one of the better spells in the game. Doesn't mean it's imba, and I don't think it is if you nerf BL and fungal. Without a strong fungal, infestors would not be used. Fungal is the reason that infestor/BL is so strong, not IT. | ||
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Eggi
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HoLe
Canada183 Posts
Blizzard is a company with very talented employees and they make great games and there's no doubt that they are loved all around the world - but my fuck - as a company they're plain ignorant, deaf, and greedy. | ||
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tubs
764 Posts
On January 13 2013 04:55 evanthebouncy! wrote: lol too late. iono how many people stick around for that long. TL maybe more ppl but in general? Pretty much my thoughts as well. I stopped playing last year and stopped watching SC2 for the most part at the start of this year. Bnet 2.0 lost me as a player and the repetitive infestor/broodlord vs mothership/timing push lost me as a viewer. My friends who aren't as TL hardcore as me were lost well before that. Too late Blizzard. This junk needed to be fixed last year, not this year. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10167 Posts
On January 13 2013 06:08 FabledIntegral wrote: Because you can have units that are "too good" in a sense. It'd just be one of the better spells in the game. Doesn't mean it's imba, and I don't think it is if you nerf BL and fungal. Without a strong fungal, infestors would not be used. Fungal is the reason that infestor/BL is so strong, not IT. The reason why they are massed are IT's, not fungal, you can fungal with 6-8 infestors just fine. Not like i disagree with what you are trying to imply, but i honestly thing the unit needs a complete overhaul. | ||
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Garoodah
United States56 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
I think that after the queen patch, zerg early and mid game is just too strong. And it just snowballs from that point. Infestor/BL was just the easiest comp for zergs to end the game with. Looking at the games themselves, you always hear things like the Terran didn't see the early roaches coming, or the Protoss spotted the muta switch too late, etc. You almost never hear that about Zerg. Because in the early/mid game, they pretty much know everything their opponent is doing and thus can either punish them or be as greedy as possible. Zerg pretty much dictation the pace and flow of the game. They also have so much map control once speed lings are out. Creep spread also gives them so much vision. Zergs has always been the most 'reactive' race in that they can switch their composition the easiest. If terrans start their Viking production only after seeing 4 colossi, there is no way they will have them in time, this is not true for Zerg. They can build 8-10 corruptor in one round.. And with the queen/OL buff, they have all the early game intel while denying the opponents. So I think in order to have a 'balance' game, we actually have to make Zerg end game the weakest because even if the late game army were even, the zergs still carry too much of an advantage from the early and mid game. And I don't think that is good design. Rather, we should look the early and mid game and see what can be done to give the other 2 races better counter/scouting. IMO, early roaches are too good vs Terran. You basically have to blindly build marauders or the roaches WILL do damage. But if you overbuild them and Zerg went lings, you will not be able to move out at all. Terrans need more reliable scouting besides having to waste 540 minerals on 2 scans. | ||
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MBHeezy
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On January 13 2013 06:23 Godwrath wrote: The reason why they are massed are IT's, not fungal, you can fungal with 6-8 infestors just fine. Not like i disagree with what you are trying to imply, but i honestly thing the unit needs a complete overhaul. If fungal didn't root you could run away from the IT. IT is only strong because fungal pins. | ||
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