Ministry of Win - 29.12.2012 Press Release - Page 10

On December 30 2012 21:26 NVRLand wrote:
MoW just can't seem to win (ironically). Whatever they do, the community is just hating on them...

As long as players are there, it can't be that awful, right? Why would players as Wilko and MorroW stay there if it was a bunch of idiots running the place?

They have probably fucked up once or twice but a lot is just "WE WANTZ MOAR DRAMA" from the community and trying to blow things out of proportion. Refusing to read their explanation just because you don't want to generate page views is one of the most stupid things I've heard..

This is all just my opinion tho :D

On December 31 2012 04:13 Doodsmack wrote:



Your signature "esports FTW" is actually hilarious given your post. You advocate the mob getting involved in esports business's affairs and declaring judgment based on forum posts. A gaming house where players are satisfied and not moving out deserved to be banished from the community. For heaven's sake, a cook and cleaner didn't get paid and desrow didn't like his food! These are unforgivable sins? Not really...be a little more reasonable please.

On December 31 2012 05:56 SupLilSon wrote:

Why are you so adamantly defending MoW? After trying to destroy Mista's progaming career you've got a change of heart and now you defend the downtrodden of E-sports? Big change of heart bro. MoW has had multiple instances of drama and chances to rectify its position but they can't seem to pull it together as a professional organization. In fact, I'm pretty sure there is no organization, just one guy renting out rooms as it seems MoW doesn't offer much beyond that. If just once they could have released a statement that wasn't riddled with grammatical errors I'd go back on everything I said. But no, proofreading your own writing is too much to expect from a professional business. If you actually care about "Esports" youd want to see scams like this shutdown.

On December 31 2012 06:17 Doodsmack wrote:



Lol I still believe Mista was hacking, although that's irrelevant here, the point is that I only go after actual problems. In almost every drama thread I've pretty much railed against the drama queens, which is abundantly clear in my post history. You've still cited nothing more than a cook and cleaner not getting paid, desrow not liking his food, and them using a non-native English speaker to write press releases. That amounts to a "scam" in your eyes? There are reputable players who are satisfied, improving, and not moving out. You're being overdramatic.

On December 30 2012 21:26 NVRLand wrote:
MoW just can't seem to win (ironically). Whatever they do, the community is just hating on them...

As long as players are there, it can't be that awful, right? Why would players as Wilko and MorroW stay there if it was a bunch of idiots running the place?

They have probably fucked up once or twice but a lot is just "WE WANTZ MOAR DRAMA" from the community and trying to blow things out of proportion. Refusing to read their explanation just because you don't want to generate page views is one of the most stupid things I've heard..

This is all just my opinion tho :D

On December 31 2012 06:17 Doodsmack wrote:



Lol I still believe Mista was hacking, although that's irrelevant here, the point is that I only go after actual problems. In almost every drama thread I've pretty much railed against the drama queens, which is abundantly clear in my post history. You've still cited nothing more than a cook and cleaner not getting paid, desrow not liking his food, and them using a non-native English speaker to write press releases. That amounts to a "scam" in your eyes? There are reputable players who are satisfied, improving, and not moving out. You're being overdramatic.

On December 31 2012 07:05 BabyToss! wrote:
This thread reminds me of typical school bullies gang-banging - when someone is down, they take bloody turns to kick them until their hearts are content and their victim is totally down. And others jump on bandwagon, just to be cool.

On December 31 2012 08:22 BabyToss! wrote:

Well, it's simply wrong to continue kicking someone who's already been kicked so many times and is down as it is. Call me stupid/naive, but I always preferred to help people up, rather than to kick them more.

Warsaw, Poland – December 29, 2012 – In response to latest allegations regarding Ministry of Win,
we declare as follows:

For some reason, on multiple forums (mainly TeamLiquid.net) an information appeared stating that
we have not paid Oliv (Artist) and her parents, who were responsible for cooking and cleaning the
house. We want to say that Oliv has received her salary, however, the "situation" with Oliv's parents is
more complicated, as it revolves around their incompetence, which led to their contract being
terminated. We took such steps after numerous discussions we had with them regarding the quality
of their work. We tried to implement some changes, but they rejected them, which led to
community's negative opinion on Ministry of Win’s food situation. After we changed MoW's house
staff everything seems to be working just fine and players haven't complained about the food quality
since then.
Regarding Kevin Vandini, known as Illu - he has not meet any requirements, which he agreed upon
when he came to Poland. He failed to recruit players during his two month period as our Recruitment
Manager. Notwithstanding, Kevin did an amazing job during Battle at Ministry of Win: get outPlayed,
for which he will get paid. Unfortunately, we have a delay with paying out the salaries for which we
are very sorry. We promise that it will not happen in the future.
Regarding this statement:
"Yeah, this is a very good point, when you're there he treats you kinda like an employee with some of
the things he does, it's extremely annoying, one example is he made it mandatory to be awake for
breakfast, which is fair enough however some players prefer playing later than others or had to stay
awake late to play qualifiers and tournaments and such, after a few people woke up late and skipped
breakfast (It was horrible anyway) he tried to start a new rule that he's locking the gaming room at
11pm or something like that so we were forced to go to sleep, he did this by putting up signs on the
doors rather than just telling us.
OH! also he sometimes would make you miss the only hot meal of the day if you woke up late as
punishment, these are just a few examples of the type of person the "boss" is."

Some of this happened. A great example of dedicated player following the training schedule is Snute.
He was one of the most hard-working players in our facility, who after leaving the house began
winning events. We are very happy for Snute and we are glad that we could help him out even a little
bit. We also never punished anyone for waking up too late; it is a lie. What we had was a meal
schedule, which was also a part of their contract and their training schedule that they received upon
arriving to the house.
Seven months have passed since May 21st. Despite initial problems I personally feel that we did fine.
Our house existed not only because of our hard-working staff, but also thanks to you guys, the
community, which we appreciate and thank for the comments. During the last few months there
were a lot of bad, hurting words said about the Ministry of Win and someone has to take the
responsibility for all those misunderstandings and it will be us. On the other hand, we would like you
to draw conclusions as well. Not everything bad that was said about our project was true; think about
it in the future. We were hurt by many of your opinions simply because we spent many months
working on this project, and we did all of this for the gamers, but that does not matter as we did all of
this, because we love eSports. The numbers are not the most important part of it, but take a quick
look on that:
- 25 players from all around the world visited MoW with one goal in mind - to get better
- We had 15 different people working at the Ministry of Win
- MoW exists for over 7 months now. In that time we were visited by the world class Starcraft II
players
- Together with outPlayed we hosted a tournament - Battle at Ministry of Win: get outPlayed with a
prize pool of $5,000 and around 5000 concurrent viewers
- Our website had 109,515 unique visitors, 29,06% of whom were from Poland. The USA got the
second place with 19,92%, and last but not least Germany with 7,48%

We try to provide the best possible environment for players to train and practice. During the first few
months we managed to do that and most of the gamers who left our house were happy and satisfied.
We have learned a lot, from mistakes, from players, from running the business like this one and we
are going to take the essence of everything that was the best over here and use all of that in the
nearest future, with new and redefined Ministry of Win. What is going to happen? We will keep you
updated.

The website is going to be back online, however, there is no ETA yet. We have lost all the files from
the FTP Server and we are trying to retrieve them from the hosting provider.

For now we can only say that we know that there are no possible mistakes in the future again. To
those that put a lot of trust in us – thank you. For those that do not believe in us anymore – we will
try even harder to impress you.

And the last thing: Breathe, Fuzer, Snute, Cytoplasm, Targa, LiveZerg, TitaN, Ret, Nimitz, KarmY,
Noticimus, Sovlet, Kamacho, CryptiC, Wilko, Hispid, desRow, MorroW, SonG, Resq, UkraineStar,
Evaner, Sage, Fraer, SjoW, Destiny and the community - thank you!
There would be no Ministry of Win without you.