On December 30 2012 12:03 TyrionSC2 wrote: Ministry of Win failing to impress once again. This is really disappointing.
They are to provide practice ground for players that want to improve their gameplay, not to cater to random posters on some site..
Also this thread delivers. "Lets ban em from TL site!" "Don't open that link, you give em views!" "Snute improved there?! irrelevant, what matters is that some staff that worked there didn't got paid." E-sports shitmmunity at it's best.
MoW just can't seem to win (ironically). Whatever they do, the community is just hating on them...
As long as players are there, it can't be that awful, right? Why would players as Wilko and MorroW stay there if it was a bunch of idiots running the place?
They have probably fucked up once or twice but a lot is just "WE WANTZ MOAR DRAMA" from the community and trying to blow things out of proportion. Refusing to read their explanation just because you don't want to generate page views is one of the most stupid things I've heard..
well I just want they get it right. it doesn't matter if they had the best intention or not, the way they mess up time and time again is nothing but proofs that the management level is a huge failure and fail to correct themselves.
how can one put their faith onto a company that just refuse to fix all of its problem?
MoW needs to fix its root problem before it even goes anywhere else. getting more money and make it bigger won't solve any problem but creating even more in the future.
Meh, you think one fancy .pdf is gonna save your reputation? It's fucked within our community. Also lol at using a quote without stating who you quote and than saying part of it is wrong, there are these beautiful things (...) you can use to censor quotations to make sure they only state what you want them to state. I highly doubt any players will want to pay for a stay in your facility in the future, maybe snute can save you by winning some more..
On December 30 2012 12:03 TyrionSC2 wrote: Ministry of Win failing to impress once again. This is really disappointing.
They are to provide practice ground for players that want to improve their gameplay, not to cater to random posters on some site..
Also this thread delivers. "Lets ban em from TL site!" "Don't open that link, you give em views!" "Snute improved there?! irrelevant, what matters is that some staff that worked there didn't got paid." E-sports shitmmunity at it's best.
taking full credit for Snutes improvement! :D nice one. he left what? 5-6 months ago?? and recently won his big tournament ? hes been to korea ect after that. and from what i understand, snute was bigtime critical to how they ran MoW aswell
from what iv read and heard from MoW, the reason people go to live there is so they dont have to cook food/worry about irl stuff so they can practise 24/7. turns out, u have to worry about food/basic things that should be taken care off from staff, and when staff doesnt get paid, NOSHIT their not going to do their job. meaning it all falls back on their players. food situation was not fixxed the last time. just ask anyone that recently left the house-.-.
its hilarious how this scam is still allowed to continue.
if u want to know how people are treated in the house, PM Noticimus/targa/evaner/whoever has lived in the house in the past, they even gave threats to a 16 year old "noticimus" when he came out publicly saying what was wrong with the house ect during last drama thread. shit gets forgiven way to fast in this community...
On December 30 2012 05:15 SonKiE wrote: Why would you ever consider going to a pro GAMING house in POLAND?
User was warned for this post
And what country have to do with it ? You ignorant amercian kid
Someone's a little butthurt! :p He was kidding.
But seriously, MoW, people are willing to trust you if you don't fuck up every 2nd week. Try to make no big mistakes for a while and people will have more faith.
Fluffy press release and they blame everyone but themselves. They even insult oliv's parents by calling them "incompetent".
It really just sounds like they did not have their shit together. (at the very least this can be seen in thanking Destiny at the end of the press release)
On December 30 2012 05:15 SonKiE wrote: Why would you ever consider going to a pro GAMING house in POLAND?
User was warned for this post
And what country have to do with it ? You ignorant amercian kid
He got warned, few people already expressed their disapproval. Posting things like this is a proof that there might be some truth to what he said, and will surely encourage more people to post this type of bullshit, so please remain silent next time.
I don't get it.. I read through it, you're still not going to pay what you owe to illu and the girls' parents? You're still running a fraud business, but in your defense, you weren't satisfied with their job and you still claim success for MoW so far? It's laughable really.
if u want to know how people are treated in the house, PM Noticimus/targa/evaner/whoever has lived in the house in the past, they even gave threats to a 16 year old "noticimus" when he came out publicly saying what was wrong with the house ect during last drama thread. shit gets forgiven way to fast in this community...
Threats? If someone is saying that we wanted to borrow the money from him to pay electricity bills then I don't think that's just threats. That's what the company always should do if someone falsely accuses it in so nonsensical way. I don't need to add that he did not pay for his stay, same as KarmY - people who wanted to come back to the house several times and were for example applying for the coach position. I don't need to say that most of the bad words has been said after our refusal.
On December 30 2012 07:14 SupLilSon wrote: Don't hate for no reason, it's getting pretty old. Which players from MoW have improved/accomplished anything? To my knowledge Snute was staying at MoW and trained pretty exclusively on the Korean ladder. He's pretty much the only player I've heard from since training at that place. EGTL is winning matches in Pro League, what are the players training at MoW doing? Receding into obscurity for the most part. Again, all the curse and frathouse comments were old a year ago, get some new jokes that are actually relevant.
I find that very harsh of you The players who came to train here aren't worldclass, so of course they won't achieve anything near what EG or TL players achieved, but the players who came to MoW and actually put effort into training got a lot better and also showed good results. Of course there were also players who went to MoW to "have fun" and who didn't took it as a serious place for practise, but to mainly enjoy themselves with other players, but those weren't all of them. Targa got 3rd place at Dreamhack Sage won Acer Starcraft 2 Challenge Titan won WCS Russia and got 3rd place at RSL and he and livezerg beat several top koreans and top foreigners in clan tournaments And also many of the lesser skilled players showed a lot of improvement I wish the boss would have also done a better job to show those good moments in MoW, which there were plenty of, but nobody actually knows about them Why is it that if some bad stuff happens everyone tries to demonize everything and to destroy everything. I sacrificed everything i had to get the chance to make it in the eSports scene (some of you might think that doing that is dumb, but i don't regret it and i started from a very low point in my life too, so i didn't had anything to lose, but i knew exactly what i wanted to achieve). Even tho it wasn't optimal, i still liked it a lot so far and im thankful to MoW giving me this opportunity to follow my dream.
Unfortunately, what MoW is all about is taking guys who are deeply hoping they can develop into "pro gamers" and taking their money.
However, if i do attend the house and commit to some kind of practise schedule i will improve.
Therefore, MoW can cling to the fact that i went from the Platinum League to Masters league as evidence of their "quality system of improvement".
Maybe MoW can also set up a "Drum School" so i can attend and pursue my dream of becoming the next John Bonham.
oliv got payed, her parents did not (something to do with incompetence and their contract being terminated)
they probably didn't cut the crusts off of their daily sandwiches!
Dont use adobe reader then? it's like telling them not to post anything online because internet explorer is buggy. No one forced you to use the worst pdf reader on the market, it was your own decision.
On December 30 2012 07:19 FXOBoSs wrote: - Ministry of win gets a grant because its ALREADY paying dividends (profit to investors) - Ministry of win can't pay staff.
Sorry bro's but your business is fucked.
Sadly its starting to be rather common in Poland nowadays...
I just get the vibe that MOW is trying their best, but just run by what seems to me inexperienced people. That coupled with the fact that gamers are as well inexperienced in business and living away from home it's just not a good mix.
On December 30 2012 07:14 SupLilSon wrote: Don't hate for no reason, it's getting pretty old. Which players from MoW have improved/accomplished anything? To my knowledge Snute was staying at MoW and trained pretty exclusively on the Korean ladder. He's pretty much the only player I've heard from since training at that place. EGTL is winning matches in Pro League, what are the players training at MoW doing? Receding into obscurity for the most part. Again, all the curse and frathouse comments were old a year ago, get some new jokes that are actually relevant.
I find that very harsh of you The players who came to train here aren't worldclass, so of course they won't achieve anything near what EG or TL players achieved, but the players who came to MoW and actually put effort into training got a lot better and also showed good results. Of course there were also players who went to MoW to "have fun" and who didn't took it as a serious place for practise, but to mainly enjoy themselves with other players, but those weren't all of them. Targa got 3rd place at Dreamhack Sage won Acer Starcraft 2 Challenge Titan won WCS Russia and got 3rd place at RSL and he and livezerg beat several top koreans and top foreigners in clan tournaments And also many of the lesser skilled players showed a lot of improvement I wish the boss would have also done a better job to show those good moments in MoW, which there were plenty of, but nobody actually knows about them Why is it that if some bad stuff happens everyone tries to demonize everything and to destroy everything. I sacrificed everything i had to get the chance to make it in the eSports scene (some of you might think that doing that is dumb, but i don't regret it and i started from a very low point in my life too, so i didn't had anything to lose, but i knew exactly what i wanted to achieve). Even tho it wasn't optimal, i still liked it a lot so far and im thankful to MoW giving me this opportunity to follow my dream.
Unfortunately, what MoW is all about is taking guys who are deeply hoping they can develop into "pro gamers" and taking their money.
However, if i do attend the house and commit to some kind of practise schedule i will improve.
Therefore, MoW can cling to the fact that i went from the Platinum League to Masters league as evidence of their "quality system of improvement".
Maybe MoW can also set up a "Drum School" so i can attend and pursue my dream of becoming the next John Bonham.
On December 31 2012 02:38 Aulox wrote: I think it's about time we all just let them burn. I mean, there's no reason why we should trust them.
Your signature "esports FTW" is actually hilarious given your post. You advocate the mob getting involved in esports business's affairs and declaring judgment based on forum posts. A gaming house where players are satisfied and not moving out deserved to be banished from the community. For heaven's sake, a cook and cleaner didn't get paid and desrow didn't like his food! These are unforgivable sins? Not really...be a little more reasonable please.
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