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Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
On December 30 2012 10:36 Unfortunate wrote: You know what the problem is, is that people need sleep. Sometimes you wake up to these things, can't be awake 24/7 you know =( They slept in since December 24th? Wow. | ||
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bK-
United States326 Posts
On December 30 2012 08:16 IdrA wrote: by "defeat" you mean "shafting people" common mistake. Not to mention refusing to pay people n stuff. Oh and most of all they have issues feeding their players who stay at the house. Sandwhich a day keeps the doctor away...... MoW is a complete joke and I feel nothing but pity for anyone who goes there. | ||
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VPVanek
Canada238 Posts
Kind of like Major leaving teams. | ||
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stormchaser
Canada1009 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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TyrionSC2
United States411 Posts
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
Also it was amazing to hear that you guys hired a family to cook and clean, it was even more fun to read how incompetent they were at doing it. I would do a summary or say something funny but I can't for the life of me think of anything since I'm that stunned over how bad this "press release" was. | ||
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sOOnMaNiAc
Germany57 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On December 30 2012 12:17 Integra wrote: The thing that really took this "press release" to a new level of "fucked up" was the email that the OP left as means of contact, and the fact that the "press release" is on their server as PDF format, not as an HTML pager or as a post on TL.Net but as an actual PDF. Also it was amazing to hear that you guys hired a family to cook and clean, it was even more fun to read how incompetent they were at doing it. I would do a summary or say something funny but I can't for the life of me think of anything since I'm that stunned over how bad this "press release" was. You're being overdramatic. An email and a PDF do not make things "a whole new level of fucked up" lol. | ||
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CPTBadAss
United States594 Posts
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Noobity
United States871 Posts
On December 30 2012 12:17 Integra wrote: The thing that really took this "press release" to a new level of "fucked up" was the email that the OP left as means of contact, and the fact that the "press release" is on their server as PDF format, not as an HTML pager or as a post on TL.Net but as an actual PDF. Also it was amazing to hear that you guys hired a family to cook and clean, it was even more fun to read how incompetent they were at doing it. I would do a summary or say something funny but I can't for the life of me think of anything since I'm that stunned over how bad this "press release" was. I have no idea how the email the OP left as a contact was fucked up (I'd assumed it was a pseudonym, like nearly all pros in the scene use, as well as many of the support staff). Looked like person@theirwebsite.com to me, which seems pretty reasonable. I also don't know how the pdf was fucked up. How the message is given only really affects how many people will read it. If their site is going to be down for the foreseeable future, it also provides them somewhere to point other reputable news organizations to. Their incompetence at their job has everything to do with why they are no longer doing that job, I don't understand why everyone is so offended by that. I was under the impression that English was not the poster's first language, and not everywhere has the same ideas on what each word means, and uses them differently. If I say someone was incompetent at their job, that means they sucked at it. Would you rather I say "they were incredibly bad at the jobs we tasked them to do"? That means pretty much the same thing. I think you, like many other people in this thread, are being hard on MoW for reasons that are exaggerated for drama. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On December 30 2012 12:43 Noobity wrote: Their incompetence at their job has everything to do with why they are no longer doing that job, I don't understand why everyone is so offended by that. I was under the impression that English was not the poster's first language, and not everywhere has the same ideas on what each word means, and uses them differently. If I say someone was incompetent at their job, that means they sucked at it. Would you rather I say "they were incredibly bad at the jobs we tasked them to do"? That means pretty much the same thing. I think you, like many other people in this thread, are being hard on MoW for reasons that are exaggerated for drama. You may be right, but it still sounds bad. "I'm sorry about all this drama, by the way our employees were incompetent." A much better way to phrase it would be: "Pay arrangements are still being discussed with the employees we dismissed, since they did not uphold their responsibilities." And that's just a sentence I came up with out of my ass. Think of what MoW could have spun if they had put some time into it. | ||
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Tommyth
Poland117 Posts
What we see here is either sheer incompetence of the "boss" or he's just trying to rip people off(or a mix of both). You don't go into GSL when u're bronze, u first grind 10.000 games and get to GM. | ||
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Noobity
United States871 Posts
On December 30 2012 13:13 Tommyth wrote: I don't get one thing. As far as I know, Oliv's parents were responsible for the food. So, I assume they've worked there since the very beginning. If they failed to fulfill their duties, they should've been fired long time ago. What we see here is either sheer incompetence of the "boss" or he's just trying to rip people off(or a mix of both). You don't go into GSL when u're bronze, u first grind 10.000 games and get to GM. Everyone starts somewhere, and people learn different things from different mistakes. It's also considerably harder to let someone go if you'd hired them as a favor to someone else in the first place (I'm assuming the hiring of Oliv's parents was either a favor or just a thing of convenience). If my girlfriend's father asked me for a job and he sucked at it, it would be harder for me to get rid of him than to just deal with him sucking. If I'd previously hired my friend's brother and he sucked at his job, I'd have known to either not hire the father in the first place, or had experience in getting rid of someone that I'd need to deal with outside of work previously. Who's to say he's ever hired a friend of a friend before? Who's to say they didn't have great credentials and then end up flaking? There's plenty of other parts to the story that we will never know, and we don't need to assume that the MoW organization was a dick about it from the start. And yeah, that's a better phrase to use, sure, but understand the cultural and language barriers and don't go ape shit over an accurate (albeit mean) way to say something is all I'm saying. | ||
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Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
On December 30 2012 05:52 IdrA wrote: seems legit. I lol'd. These guys have no more chances from me. | ||
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Tommyth
Poland117 Posts
On December 30 2012 13:50 Noobity wrote: Everyone starts somewhere, and people learn different things from different mistakes. . I agree, but so far it seems like this enterprise is too much for Him to handle. Again, there is nothing wrong with that, but failing at such a huge thing can be very costly. That's why people usually start with smaller tasks to gain experience, and then slowly move further. I of course hope that MoW will somehow get back on legs and build good reputation, as it will be beneficial for whole community. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On December 30 2012 05:38 True_Spike wrote: I do hope that they will finally invest in proper staff (people who are actually qualified for the job rather than just being friends with whoever is running the project). If a manager hires someone because they're friends and the friend isn't qualified for the job, then why would the manager be qualified for their job? I just don't see how anyone can expect them to do a better job the next time without massive, internal retooling. The smoke is just what's visible from the outside, the fire on the inside is the problem. | ||
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SlitZ
Sweden42 Posts
I don't have anything against MoW, i hope they can do something that makes them look less...idiotic? Anyway, Gl Hf and i hope u get aid* with ure new project. *s ;D | ||
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