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On December 29 2012 00:31 The_Darkness wrote:
Although I watch GSL all of the time, I always forget how group selection works. How are groups determined? Will Sniper get the first pick? I'm hoping for Stephano's sake that he can avoid getting picked by a zerg but I highly doubt any Protosses or Terrans want to face him.
I believe that for the first group stage, only the finalists of the previous GSL can choose an opponent and then it works given the seeds.
It's the second group stage selection which is interesting with 1st seed choosing 2nd seed, who choose 3rd who choose 4th.
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He should go to code s 6 months ago. Now he isn't as good as he was then.  But good luck - he is probably best of foreigners
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On December 29 2012 00:25 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 00:20 Nuclease wrote:On December 28 2012 20:05 Solarsail wrote:On December 28 2012 20:02 Looms wrote:Stephano in Code S! (and Proleague too?) The time has finally come. Hopefully he will take this extremely seriously, otherwise he will just get rolled over, sadly Hope the Koreans take HIM seriously or they'll get rolled worse than GSL WC. You mean when he didn't advance from the group stage? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Blizzard_CupIt must be that I'm confused on what tournament we're talking about, because in this one, Stephano didn't do well. He got second to last in his group. I wouldn't be surprised to see more of the same in Code S, but we'll see. This one :  2012 GSL World Championship
Ah. Well, the WC team league still doesn't really apply to a tournament like this. First of all, no matter how well Stephano did, he still lost, along with the rest of the foreign team. So while he may have had a good run, he still doesn't stack up into the top of Code S. Moreover, I don't think that the WC can be indicative to much more than the first round of Code S. Why? Because in the WC, the players were preparing a LOT less for specific match ups and they took the tournament less seriously. Stephano has said before that he's not as good at Code S format tournaments, and if you listen to interviews with people like Tastosis, they will say that the Code S format is nothing like MLG, LSC, etc. (AKA all the tournaments Stephano does well in.)
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On December 29 2012 00:25 Opera wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 00:20 Nuclease wrote:On December 28 2012 20:05 Solarsail wrote:On December 28 2012 20:02 Looms wrote:Stephano in Code S! (and Proleague too?) The time has finally come. Hopefully he will take this extremely seriously, otherwise he will just get rolled over, sadly Hope the Koreans take HIM seriously or they'll get rolled worse than GSL WC. You mean when he didn't advance from the group stage? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Blizzard_CupIt must be that I'm confused on what tournament we're talking about, because in this one, Stephano didn't do well. He got second to last in his group. I wouldn't be surprised to see more of the same in Code S, but we'll see. I think he means when Stephano beat 4 GSL champions in a row (2 ZvZs also) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_GSL_World_Championship#Round_2
Don't forget that is a Bo1 without preparation.
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top 8 easily.
If he can get past top 8
then he has a good chance to win the whole thing.
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ugh seeds for foreigners T.T
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On December 29 2012 00:07 MauliSchaumi wrote:
Naniwa will come too. So maybe Naniwa,Huk,Grubby and Stephano in GSL? Would be awesome!
Imagine the group:
Naniwa
Stephano
Grubby
Huk
That would be one of the worst groups in Code S...
There is no way to justify that all four of those guys get into Code S together at the moment. Even if they were at one point, no one but Stephano (and that's arguable) is Code S caliber right now.
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His run will depend heavily on who he meets.
I wonder how he'll do when he prepares for his opponents for days and vice-versa. Even moreso with the fungal 'nerf'.
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On December 29 2012 00:38 SoOJuuu wrote:
top 8 easily.
If he can get past top 8
then he has a good chance to win the whole thing.
I don't think you know Code S very well.
Past the top 8 is where Stephano stands the least chance, even by his own words, because it requires the most individual and tactical preparation. He's a great player, but the further he gets the harder it will be for him, simply due to format (not even to mention the amazing players that will be up there with him).
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Awwwwww yeeeeeeeee. Stephano will be owning up some Koreans on their home turf next year, non KeSPa koreans I mean.
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On December 29 2012 00:31 The_Darkness wrote:
Although I watch GSL all of the time, I always forget how group selection works. How are groups determined? Will Sniper get the first pick? I'm hoping for Stephano's sake that he can avoid getting picked by a zerg but I highly doubt any Protosses or Terrans want to face him.
Sniper and Hyun get picks out of the bottom tier players.
By bottom tier it's done by GSL points since it will be Stephano's debut in the GOM studios he will have 0 points therefore be part of the pool of players available to pick from.
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On December 29 2012 00:06 Irre wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2012 23:49 tili wrote: tremendously exciting, I may just buy a GSL sub if me makes it past the first round. Also, I hope this means he'll be streaming from korea! I miss his streams very much. Edit: I'm pretty sure this means he'll be practicing ZvZ very hardcore. Excellent. *sigh* and this is why GOM gives out seeds unfair to everyone else in Korea working very hard to even qualify for GSL. Not rooting for any of them to fail like some people, but I certainly don't think they deserve to be there unless they actually qualify. Look at Nestea..no seed, fell out of GSL and got right back in through qualifiers. If you are good enough you will get there. Free seeds are a joke.
I guess it's time to go over this shit again.
To qualify for the gsl, a Korean player must:
1 be really good at starcraft.
2 take the bus.
To qualify for the gsl, a foreign player must:
1 fly to Korea
2 find a place to sleep for a month
3 live in a culture they don't know, that speaks a language they don't understand, and where nobody of their normal social network is.
4 battle jet lag, strange food customs and
5 be really good at starcraft.
6 take the bus.
Not to mention, a Korean player that fails qualifications can easily try again next time. A foreign player might have problems with visa, rent, culture or home sickness. Even disregarding the business aspect for gom, it still makes tons of sense to give invites to foreigners.
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On December 29 2012 00:31 The_Darkness wrote:
Although I watch GSL all of the time, I always forget how group selection works. How are groups determined? Will Sniper get the first pick? I'm hoping for Stephano's sake that he can avoid getting picked by a zerg but I highly doubt any Protosses or Terrans want to face him.
This is how it is done
- For Code S Ro32, players are divided into 4 tiers (Scroll down for tier list)
* Tier 1: The Top 8 of GSL Season 4
* Tier 2: 2012 GSL Point Ranking 1-8
* Tier 3: 2012 GSL Point Ranking 9-16
* Tier 4: 2012 GSL Point Ranking 17-24
- After this procedure, 8 groups of 4 are formed
* First, the previous season’s champion select s a player from Tier 4 for his group
* After that, the previous season’s runner-up will select a player from Tier 4 for his group
* The remaining players will be randomly distributed among the groups
* After this procedure we will have 8 groups of 4 players, each from a different tier
- Match order for each group (All matches Bo3)
* Match1: Tier 1 vs Tier 4
* Match2: Tier 2 vs Tier 3
* Match3: M1 Winner vs M2 Winner -> Winner advances to Ro16
* Match4: M1 Loser vs M2 Loser -> Loser drops to Code A
* Match5: M3 Loser vs M4 Winner -> Winner advances to Ro16, loser drops to Code A
Example - 2012 GSL Season 5 Code S:
Tier Ranking:
+ Show Spoiler +
And with that the groups ended like this:
+ Show Spoiler +Champion Life chose BaBy Runner-Up Mvp chose Bbyong ![[image loading]](http://img.gomtv.net/userimg/0000/0712/69712.jpg) Note: the groups are out of order because of schedule issues. Normally the champion is in Group A and the runner-up in Group B.
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Finally! But he's going to have a hard time in Code S with all these zergs (and overall incredibly skilled players) in it, not to mention the preparation aspect. Looking forward to his performance though.
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On December 29 2012 00:39 Nuclease wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 00:07 MauliSchaumi wrote:
Naniwa will come too. So maybe Naniwa,Huk,Grubby and Stephano in GSL? Would be awesome!
Imagine the group:
Naniwa
Stephano
Grubby
Huk
That would be one of the worst groups in Code S... There is no way to justify that all four of those guys get into Code S together at the moment. Even if they were at one point, no one but Stephano (and that's arguable) is Code S caliber right now.
Stephano might be code S material, but he said in several interviews that he dislike the format of that competition (training and studying one particular opponent). So im looking forward to see how he can perform.
Naniwa made a good code S run in the past, is he now in a slump?
Grubby is very dedicated, hard working and have a perfect mindset he can accomplish miracles sometimes even if i cant imagine him beating people like mvp (way too solid) or drg/life (way too zerg :D)
Huk: i dont fucking know what is his level right now
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On December 29 2012 00:38 SoOJuuu wrote:
top 8 easily.
If he can get past top 8
then he has a good chance to win the whole thing.
he is past his prime
no doubt he's still one of the best foreigners but 'top 8 easily' ? no way
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On December 29 2012 00:47 Mackus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 00:31 The_Darkness wrote:
Although I watch GSL all of the time, I always forget how group selection works. How are groups determined? Will Sniper get the first pick? I'm hoping for Stephano's sake that he can avoid getting picked by a zerg but I highly doubt any Protosses or Terrans want to face him. Sniper and Hyun get picks out of the bottom tier players. By bottom tier it's done by GSL points since it will be Stephano's debut in the GOM studios he will have 0 points therefore be part of the pool of players available to pick from.
Thanks. I'd say there's a greater than 50% chance he's going to get picked although if I were them I'd be a little wary of picking Stephano, since everyone knows he's capable of putting on great performances in pressure situations, even if his zvz is not up to par with his other matchups. They could simply opt for a weak Terran or Protoss player if one's available.
Edit: Also thanks to the above poster who made a detailed post regarding the selection rules in response to my question.
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