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Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
December 28 2012 14:27 GMT
#201
I hope he gets in his old shape again
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
MateShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia736 Posts
December 28 2012 14:30 GMT
#202
Gl lol gonna need it
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
December 28 2012 14:31 GMT
#203
HELL, IT'S ABOUT TIME!

No really, the amount of Code S invites Stephano has turned down prior seems to be excruciating.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 28 2012 14:31 GMT
#204
Stephano will make it to the RO8, most likely. I don't see him preparing sufficiently for the BO5s and BO7s.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33371 Posts
December 28 2012 14:31 GMT
#205
On December 28 2012 23:31 Clbull wrote:
HELL, IT'S ABOUT TIME!

No really, the amount of Code S invites Stephano has turned down prior seems to be excruciating.


just think of it as one, very long standing open invite
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 28 2012 14:34 GMT
#206
On December 28 2012 22:48 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 22:47 bo1b wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:45 Andr3 wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:38 Tibbroar wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:18 Philozovic wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:06 konqueror wrote:
I wonder if Stephano would acheve so much if he didn'd play zerg.


Would mvp had 4 gsl if he wasn't playing terran in 2011 ?

People tend to forget that Stephano was awesome way before Zerg was good. Late 2011 Early 2012 there was 4 zergs in the world : Stephano, Leenock, DRG, Nestea and Violet came in the early days of 2012 and that was it. The other zerg (Curious, Revival,Golden, Lucky) were all tier 2 players.

No Hyun, No life, No Sniper, no foreigner patch zerg at that time.

Stephano is everything but a Infestor abuser, you can't call him a patch zerg !

Yes, yes he would have. People have forgotten at this point that Mvp was a mechanical monster before his wrists blew up. Sure, there are players around now that are at the level he was, but he was the only one really bringing kespa a-teamer level mechanics at that time. Anyone that ever watched one of his rare streaming sessions from that time knows it too, its why he was able to tear up foreign tournaments at that time too, he was just by far the most complete player in the world.

As far as your actual point, yeah, stephano is no patchzerg, he's had a much rougher time of it since the patch because he runs into ZvZ more often. He was winning vs z P and T well before the patch, and this is coming from someone that REALLY doesn't care for stephano. Or foreigners in general really... except grubby, everyone should love grubby.

I don't think MVP was such a mechanical monster as you make him to be. He had GOOD mechanics, but they weren't top notch. DRG for example was way way faster, Yonghwa had amazing mechanics as well. MVP's strength has always been that he has been above average at every single aspect of SC2, decision making seems to be his greatest though.

He had 150-170 eapm at blizzcon 2011, to say that mechanics were ever really mvp's strength is kind of silly. He was certainly no MMA or Bomber. Making the seemingly perfect move consistently was what made mvp win 4 championships.


That's very standard APM for Terran players, more than many top terrans actually. Players like gumiho and Ryung I've noticed consistently hovers around 150 (blizzard) APM. Marineking had 170 in a few replays I saw. APM =/= mechanics, especially not for terrans. Other terrans with far inferior mechanics can easily have 200-300 apm.

APM may not equal mechanics, but hand speed and effective use is by far the best measuring tool we have at a glance. Players like drg and mma who consistently were above 220 eapm (not blizzard apm) are the really impressive mechanical players in sc2. MVP simply wasn't.
Krymming
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden38 Posts
December 28 2012 14:35 GMT
#207
If he's going to code S he better practice his ZvZ like mad
No excuses, play like a champion
Finnz
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom260 Posts
December 28 2012 14:39 GMT
#208
just imagine if he won gsl...just imagine that for a minute.
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
December 28 2012 14:39 GMT
#209
not sure if Code Z is Stephano's place, but he might get a lucky group. At least he's finally going, about time!
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 28 2012 14:40 GMT
#210
On December 28 2012 23:07 Waxangel wrote:
yay ^^

though, it's pretty clear anti-fun Sniper will take him with his first pick -__-

(unless Sniper is STILL pissed off about people underrating him and takes a big-name Korean first instead of taking the most favorable player/matchup)


Sniper is the Antimage of Starcraft right now.
No fun allowed foreigners.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
December 28 2012 14:41 GMT
#211
So Stephano did man up.

He gotta be scared, Korea is where foreigners go to die.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21666 Posts
December 28 2012 14:42 GMT
#212
Call me amazed if he gets past the first round.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
December 28 2012 14:43 GMT
#213
On December 28 2012 23:39 Koerage wrote:
not sure if Code Z is Stephano's place, but he might get a lucky group. At least he's finally going, about time!


Wat?

In S5 there were 9P 14T 9Z.
Since the Up&Down didn't get played yet for 2013 S1 we can't say anything about the new season but i wouldn't be surprised to see a pretty nice race distribution once again, the GSL Terrans are just that freaking good.

Topic: Fuck Yeah, finally. I really hope he practices like a beast but with Hwanni whipping Tzain around like nothing i am very confident that Park & Hwanni get him to train like he never did before
twitter.com/pimpmuckl
operwolf
Profile Joined April 2008
United States324 Posts
December 28 2012 14:44 GMT
#214
This is awesome. gl stephano!
He'll end up dead, because he'll die.
SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
December 28 2012 14:46 GMT
#215
Time for him to show his true metal, fighting on Korean grounds, on Korean "terms" (preparation). This will show it all, was Stephano all hype, or is he the real deal? (No you can't say he is the real deal yet because he has been fighting on HIS terms so far, mass games all day long with nothing but ladder-like preparation).

Good games fighting!
BW hwaiting!
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
December 28 2012 14:46 GMT
#216
Woot this is nice news
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
neozxa
Profile Joined August 2011
Indonesia545 Posts
December 28 2012 14:47 GMT
#217
Foreigners are taking over the GSL apparently. Looking forward to seeing Stephano, HuK and Grubby play, hope all of them reach RO8 at least :D
Keep moving forward
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 14:51:48
December 28 2012 14:49 GMT
#218
tremendously exciting, I may just buy a GSL sub if me makes it past the first round.

Also, I hope this means he'll be streaming from korea! I miss his streams very much.

Edit: I'm pretty sure this means he'll be practicing ZvZ very hardcore. Excellent.
MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
December 28 2012 14:51 GMT
#219
On December 28 2012 23:47 neozxa wrote:
Foreigners are taking over the GSL apparently. Looking forward to seeing Stephano, HuK and Grubby play, hope all of them reach RO8 at least :D

how do you come to that conclusion? lol
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 28 2012 14:59 GMT
#220
Called it. Just coincides so well with him being there for round 2 of Proleague. Wonder who the other Code S seed will be.
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