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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 28 2012 13:27 GMT
#161
Finally the moment we have all been waiting for is possibly here!
Seohce
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom394 Posts
December 28 2012 13:29 GMT
#162
It's going to be so much fun reading the live report threads when Stephano gets owned ^^
lacho_u
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria535 Posts
December 28 2012 13:31 GMT
#163
it was a time
Power is nothing without control
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
December 28 2012 13:32 GMT
#164
We were all anticipating this somehow. I hope he will find his earlier level of game.
lordofsoup
Profile Joined January 2012
United States159 Posts
December 28 2012 13:33 GMT
#165
He will do well the first few rounds, but after that I think the increased level of competition will be too much. He just need to play a few seasons before we can really judge him.
NOHUNTERS
MrJoKer
Profile Joined November 2011
France232 Posts
December 28 2012 13:36 GMT
#166
Next Royal Roader ! Go go Stephano !
@AbeggJip
Tibbroar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States161 Posts
December 28 2012 13:38 GMT
#167
On December 28 2012 22:18 Philozovic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 22:06 konqueror wrote:
I wonder if Stephano would acheve so much if he didn'd play zerg.


Would mvp had 4 gsl if he wasn't playing terran in 2011 ?

People tend to forget that Stephano was awesome way before Zerg was good. Late 2011 Early 2012 there was 4 zergs in the world : Stephano, Leenock, DRG, Nestea and Violet came in the early days of 2012 and that was it. The other zerg (Curious, Revival,Golden, Lucky) were all tier 2 players.

No Hyun, No life, No Sniper, no foreigner patch zerg at that time.

Stephano is everything but a Infestor abuser, you can't call him a patch zerg !

Yes, yes he would have. People have forgotten at this point that Mvp was a mechanical monster before his wrists blew up. Sure, there are players around now that are at the level he was, but he was the only one really bringing kespa a-teamer level mechanics at that time. Anyone that ever watched one of his rare streaming sessions from that time knows it too, its why he was able to tear up foreign tournaments at that time too, he was just by far the most complete player in the world.

As far as your actual point, yeah, stephano is no patchzerg, he's had a much rougher time of it since the patch because he runs into ZvZ more often. He was winning vs z P and T well before the patch, and this is coming from someone that REALLY doesn't care for stephano. Or foreigners in general really... except grubby, everyone should love grubby.
I will always believe in the fallen king.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
December 28 2012 13:39 GMT
#168
doesn't stand a chance I think but good anyhow
sherriluv
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden38 Posts
December 28 2012 13:39 GMT
#169
Im not hating or anything I would just like to see him fail miserable.. gogo korean domination
"increase success by lowering expectations"
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 13:41:47
December 28 2012 13:41 GMT
#170
On December 28 2012 22:39 sherriluv wrote:
Im not hating or anything I would just like to see him fail miserable.. gogo korean domination

I hope that he gets destroyed, not that I'm hating or anything ^^ ~(^u^)~

+ Show Spoiler +
sentence is slightly contradictory
vzSo
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland33 Posts
December 28 2012 13:42 GMT
#171
as incontrol said "stephano might look like he doesn't care and doesn't train at all, but he does really care and trains, he's just afraid of people giving him pressure because he doesn't want to disappoint anyone".

i really think he will make it far as long it's not zvz every round.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 28 2012 13:42 GMT
#172
On December 28 2012 22:38 Tibbroar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 22:18 Philozovic wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:06 konqueror wrote:
I wonder if Stephano would acheve so much if he didn'd play zerg.


Would mvp had 4 gsl if he wasn't playing terran in 2011 ?

People tend to forget that Stephano was awesome way before Zerg was good. Late 2011 Early 2012 there was 4 zergs in the world : Stephano, Leenock, DRG, Nestea and Violet came in the early days of 2012 and that was it. The other zerg (Curious, Revival,Golden, Lucky) were all tier 2 players.

No Hyun, No life, No Sniper, no foreigner patch zerg at that time.

Stephano is everything but a Infestor abuser, you can't call him a patch zerg !

Yes, yes he would have. People have forgotten at this point that Mvp was a mechanical monster before his wrists blew up. Sure, there are players around now that are at the level he was, but he was the only one really bringing kespa a-teamer level mechanics at that time. Anyone that ever watched one of his rare streaming sessions from that time knows it too, its why he was able to tear up foreign tournaments at that time too, he was just by far the most complete player in the world.

As far as your actual point, yeah, stephano is no patchzerg, he's had a much rougher time of it since the patch because he runs into ZvZ more often. He was winning vs z P and T well before the patch, and this is coming from someone that REALLY doesn't care for stephano. Or foreigners in general really... except grubby, everyone should love grubby.

People also over exaggerate how good his mechanics were pre-wrist explosion.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
December 28 2012 13:45 GMT
#173
On December 28 2012 22:38 Tibbroar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 22:18 Philozovic wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:06 konqueror wrote:
I wonder if Stephano would acheve so much if he didn'd play zerg.


Would mvp had 4 gsl if he wasn't playing terran in 2011 ?

People tend to forget that Stephano was awesome way before Zerg was good. Late 2011 Early 2012 there was 4 zergs in the world : Stephano, Leenock, DRG, Nestea and Violet came in the early days of 2012 and that was it. The other zerg (Curious, Revival,Golden, Lucky) were all tier 2 players.

No Hyun, No life, No Sniper, no foreigner patch zerg at that time.

Stephano is everything but a Infestor abuser, you can't call him a patch zerg !

Yes, yes he would have. People have forgotten at this point that Mvp was a mechanical monster before his wrists blew up. Sure, there are players around now that are at the level he was, but he was the only one really bringing kespa a-teamer level mechanics at that time. Anyone that ever watched one of his rare streaming sessions from that time knows it too, its why he was able to tear up foreign tournaments at that time too, he was just by far the most complete player in the world.

As far as your actual point, yeah, stephano is no patchzerg, he's had a much rougher time of it since the patch because he runs into ZvZ more often. He was winning vs z P and T well before the patch, and this is coming from someone that REALLY doesn't care for stephano. Or foreigners in general really... except grubby, everyone should love grubby.

I don't think MVP was such a mechanical monster as you make him to be. He had GOOD mechanics, but they weren't top notch. DRG for example was way way faster, Yonghwa had amazing mechanics as well. MVP's strength has always been that he has been above average at every single aspect of SC2, decision making seems to be his greatest though.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 28 2012 13:45 GMT
#174
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 28 2012 13:47 GMT
#175
On December 28 2012 22:45 Andr3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 22:38 Tibbroar wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:18 Philozovic wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:06 konqueror wrote:
I wonder if Stephano would acheve so much if he didn'd play zerg.


Would mvp had 4 gsl if he wasn't playing terran in 2011 ?

People tend to forget that Stephano was awesome way before Zerg was good. Late 2011 Early 2012 there was 4 zergs in the world : Stephano, Leenock, DRG, Nestea and Violet came in the early days of 2012 and that was it. The other zerg (Curious, Revival,Golden, Lucky) were all tier 2 players.

No Hyun, No life, No Sniper, no foreigner patch zerg at that time.

Stephano is everything but a Infestor abuser, you can't call him a patch zerg !

Yes, yes he would have. People have forgotten at this point that Mvp was a mechanical monster before his wrists blew up. Sure, there are players around now that are at the level he was, but he was the only one really bringing kespa a-teamer level mechanics at that time. Anyone that ever watched one of his rare streaming sessions from that time knows it too, its why he was able to tear up foreign tournaments at that time too, he was just by far the most complete player in the world.

As far as your actual point, yeah, stephano is no patchzerg, he's had a much rougher time of it since the patch because he runs into ZvZ more often. He was winning vs z P and T well before the patch, and this is coming from someone that REALLY doesn't care for stephano. Or foreigners in general really... except grubby, everyone should love grubby.

I don't think MVP was such a mechanical monster as you make him to be. He had GOOD mechanics, but they weren't top notch. DRG for example was way way faster, Yonghwa had amazing mechanics as well. MVP's strength has always been that he has been above average at every single aspect of SC2, decision making seems to be his greatest though.

He had 150-170 eapm at blizzcon 2011, to say that mechanics were ever really mvp's strength is kind of silly. He was certainly no MMA or Bomber. Making the seemingly perfect move consistently was what made mvp win 4 championships.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
December 28 2012 13:48 GMT
#176
On December 28 2012 22:38 Tibbroar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 22:18 Philozovic wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:06 konqueror wrote:
I wonder if Stephano would acheve so much if he didn'd play zerg.


Would mvp had 4 gsl if he wasn't playing terran in 2011 ?

People tend to forget that Stephano was awesome way before Zerg was good. Late 2011 Early 2012 there was 4 zergs in the world : Stephano, Leenock, DRG, Nestea and Violet came in the early days of 2012 and that was it. The other zerg (Curious, Revival,Golden, Lucky) were all tier 2 players.

No Hyun, No life, No Sniper, no foreigner patch zerg at that time.

Stephano is everything but a Infestor abuser, you can't call him a patch zerg !

Yes, yes he would have. People have forgotten at this point that Mvp was a mechanical monster before his wrists blew up. Sure, there are players around now that are at the level he was, but he was the only one really bringing kespa a-teamer level mechanics at that time. Anyone that ever watched one of his rare streaming sessions from that time knows it too, its why he was able to tear up foreign tournaments at that time too, he was just by far the most complete player in the world.

As far as your actual point, yeah, stephano is no patchzerg, he's had a much rougher time of it since the patch because he runs into ZvZ more often. He was winning vs z P and T well before the patch, and this is coming from someone that REALLY doesn't care for stephano. Or foreigners in general really... except grubby, everyone should love grubby.


im sorry but MVP wasnt the best at mechanics, he was just the smartest player in the world and coupled with his incredible mechanics ( not the best) that was why he succeeded, now he relies almost on preparation and experience alone since his wrists are fucked
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
December 28 2012 13:48 GMT
#177
well, if he fails in ro32 he'll get another seed in the hots season, no problem
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 13:50:28
December 28 2012 13:48 GMT
#178
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joeace
Profile Joined May 2011
4 Posts
December 28 2012 13:49 GMT
#179
He will be out at the first group stage, 2 ZvZ match and thats it ... EG Curse on the roll :D
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
December 28 2012 13:50 GMT
#180
I have a feeling this will be anticlimatic, but still quite hype! :D
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